Coach Gus wanted to get a message out of recruits in hotbeds all over the Southeast so he got UCF to sponsor up this video billboard campaign.

Gus has already offered over 140 UCF scholarships to 2022, 2023 and even 2024 recruits...most of them in Florida, Alabama and Georgia. He has also offered to players in South Carolina, Ohio, Indiana, Arkansas, Texas, North Carolina, Virginia, Hawaii and in other states as well.

Gus sends out a not so subtle message to ESPN/College Game Day this morning:

(03-05-2021 12:03 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 05:14 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(03-02-2021 07:01 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  One of the most interesting things that’s totally new for us is Gus is hiring a ton of analysts. We suddenly have analysts working in all kinds of different roles. I could be mistaken but I don’t think we’ve hired anyone like that before.

Analysts aren't allowed to do on field coaching, right?

I don’t think so but I’m not entirely certain. Our analysts will mostly focus on recruiting and scouting to free up coaches.

It's not just "on-field" if you mean that as "in-game" -- analysts can't do face-to-face coaching of the student-athletes in practice or in meetings. They can scout opponents and cut up video, and they can "self-scout" but they feed the coaches, not the players. Gameday headset rules dictate 15 headsets for coaches, 4 designated for players' use, and 1 for a single non-coach staff member such as charting plays (plus two comms techs allowed to listen in).
Can do research or produce video for recruiting for the coaches, but can't recruit off campus.

(03-05-2021 12:37 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 12:03 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 05:14 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(03-02-2021 07:01 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  One of the most interesting things that’s totally new for us is Gus is hiring a ton of analysts. We suddenly have analysts working in all kinds of different roles. I could be mistaken but I don’t think we’ve hired anyone like that before.

Analysts aren't allowed to do on field coaching, right?

I don’t think so but I’m not entirely certain. Our analysts will mostly focus on recruiting and scouting to free up coaches.

It's not just "on-field" if you mean that as "in-game" -- analysts can't do face-to-face coaching of the student-athletes in practice or in meetings. They can scout opponents and cut up video, and they can "self-scout" but they feed the coaches, not the players. Gameday headset rules dictate 15 headsets for coaches, 4 designated for players' use, and 1 for a single non-coach staff member such as charting plays (plus two comms techs allowed to listen in).
Can do research or produce video for recruiting for the coaches, but can't recruit off campus.

Correct.

Analysts help a lot....from viewing HS tape and scouting...to analyzing practice tape and obviously game film.

Many HC put analysts on staff to be brought up to Asst Coach status if one of their Asst Coaches gets promoted/poached.

Also, HC can help analysts get Asst Coaching jobs elsewhere...which helps attract new analysts and the cycle continues.

Gus saved a few $$ from his salary pool so he could have a bigger staff of analysts and so far, it looks like money well spent.

They are definitely creating hype which our last coach could not do. Herb Hand said in a zoom meeting, "Nobody rises to low expectations". Will UCF get there? Don't know, I hope so but they are not here simply to compete.

(03-04-2021 12:11 AM)Casanova Wrote:  

(03-03-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  All the excitement over hiring the coach of the team that UCF beat in its biggest win in history.

Still cracks me up. Gus pissed away more talent at Auburn than UCF can amass in 50 years.

Nevertheless only Cincy stands in the way of UCF completely fricking the AAC.

Strange times.

Our 2017 team was special with NFL guys everywhere along with Milton. No shame in losing to that team.

And also pissed away talent? Gus was consistently at a talent deficit when compared to teams like Alabama and LSU, and was still very competitive. He wasn’t fired for being a bad coach, he was fired for not being good enough for Auburn. Those are two completely different things. You can’t be a bad coach and never of had a losing season in the toughest division in college football. You can’t be a bad coach and be 3-5 against Nick Saban. I’m not saying he’s Vince Lombardi but you sound disingenuous

You'll see his stupid shite soon enough and understand why Auburn fired him. Enjoy the honeymoon.

Gus Malzahn was a combined 7-16 (30%) against Alabama, Georgia and LSU. Gus Malzahn is 0-11 (0%) in Baton Rouge, Athens and Tuscaloosa.

That's why he was fired.

(03-05-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 12:11 AM)Casanova Wrote:  

(03-03-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  All the excitement over hiring the coach of the team that UCF beat in its biggest win in history.

Still cracks me up. Gus pissed away more talent at Auburn than UCF can amass in 50 years.

Nevertheless only Cincy stands in the way of UCF completely fricking the AAC.

Strange times.

Our 2017 team was special with NFL guys everywhere along with Milton. No shame in losing to that team.

And also pissed away talent? Gus was consistently at a talent deficit when compared to teams like Alabama and LSU, and was still very competitive. He wasn’t fired for being a bad coach, he was fired for not being good enough for Auburn. Those are two completely different things. You can’t be a bad coach and never of had a losing season in the toughest division in college football. You can’t be a bad coach and be 3-5 against Nick Saban. I’m not saying he’s Vince Lombardi but you sound disingenuous

You'll see his stupid shite soon enough and understand why Auburn fired him. Enjoy the honeymoon.

Gus Malzahn was a combined 7-16 (30%) against Alabama, Georgia and LSU. Gus Malzahn is 0-11 (0%) in Baton Rouge, Athens and Tuscaloosa.

That's why he was fired.

What’s Memphis record against UCF?

(03-05-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 12:11 AM)Casanova Wrote:  

(03-03-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  All the excitement over hiring the coach of the team that UCF beat in its biggest win in history.

Still cracks me up. Gus pissed away more talent at Auburn than UCF can amass in 50 years.

Nevertheless only Cincy stands in the way of UCF completely fricking the AAC.

Strange times.

Our 2017 team was special with NFL guys everywhere along with Milton. No shame in losing to that team.

And also pissed away talent? Gus was consistently at a talent deficit when compared to teams like Alabama and LSU, and was still very competitive. He wasn’t fired for being a bad coach, he was fired for not being good enough for Auburn. Those are two completely different things. You can’t be a bad coach and never of had a losing season in the toughest division in college football. You can’t be a bad coach and be 3-5 against Nick Saban. I’m not saying he’s Vince Lombardi but you sound disingenuous

You'll see his stupid shite soon enough and understand why Auburn fired him. Enjoy the honeymoon.

Gus Malzahn was a combined 7-16 (30%) against Alabama, Georgia and LSU. Gus Malzahn is 0-11 (0%) in Baton Rouge, Athens and Tuscaloosa.

That's why he was fired.

All of us are super happy with him and that’s what matters. Instead of worrying about our coach, why don’t you worry about evening out your record against us? You have had a hard on for us this entire thread. We're not poaching Nick Saban anytime soon and Gus was by far the best candidate out there in mid February. Our staff as a whole also looks great. I'll take our coaching staff over Memphis that's for sure

(03-06-2021 12:21 AM)Casanova Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 12:11 AM)Casanova Wrote:  

(03-03-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  All the excitement over hiring the coach of the team that UCF beat in its biggest win in history.

Still cracks me up. Gus pissed away more talent at Auburn than UCF can amass in 50 years.

Nevertheless only Cincy stands in the way of UCF completely fricking the AAC.

Strange times.

Our 2017 team was special with NFL guys everywhere along with Milton. No shame in losing to that team.

And also pissed away talent? Gus was consistently at a talent deficit when compared to teams like Alabama and LSU, and was still very competitive. He wasn’t fired for being a bad coach, he was fired for not being good enough for Auburn. Those are two completely different things. You can’t be a bad coach and never of had a losing season in the toughest division in college football. You can’t be a bad coach and be 3-5 against Nick Saban. I’m not saying he’s Vince Lombardi but you sound disingenuous

You'll see his stupid shite soon enough and understand why Auburn fired him. Enjoy the honeymoon.

Gus Malzahn was a combined 7-16 (30%) against Alabama, Georgia and LSU. Gus Malzahn is 0-11 (0%) in Baton Rouge, Athens and Tuscaloosa.

That's why he was fired.

All of us are super happy with him and that’s what matters. Instead of worrying about our coach, why don’t you worry about evening out your record against us? You have had a hard on for us this entire thread. We're not poaching Nick Saban anytime soon and Gus was by far the best candidate out there in mid February. Our staff as a whole also looks great. I'll take our coaching staff over Memphis that's for sure

I wonder what Ryan Silverfield’s record would be in that situation?

(03-06-2021 12:09 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 12:11 AM)Casanova Wrote:  

(03-03-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  All the excitement over hiring the coach of the team that UCF beat in its biggest win in history.

Still cracks me up. Gus pissed away more talent at Auburn than UCF can amass in 50 years.

Nevertheless only Cincy stands in the way of UCF completely fricking the AAC.

Strange times.

Our 2017 team was special with NFL guys everywhere along with Milton. No shame in losing to that team.

And also pissed away talent? Gus was consistently at a talent deficit when compared to teams like Alabama and LSU, and was still very competitive. He wasn’t fired for being a bad coach, he was fired for not being good enough for Auburn. Those are two completely different things. You can’t be a bad coach and never of had a losing season in the toughest division in college football. You can’t be a bad coach and be 3-5 against Nick Saban. I’m not saying he’s Vince Lombardi but you sound disingenuous

You'll see his stupid shite soon enough and understand why Auburn fired him. Enjoy the honeymoon.

Gus Malzahn was a combined 7-16 (30%) against Alabama, Georgia and LSU. Gus Malzahn is 0-11 (0%) in Baton Rouge, Athens and Tuscaloosa.

That's why he was fired.

What’s Memphis record against UCF?

That simpleton logic only applies to Auburn, not Memphis. Someone is jelly all the off season hype centers around UCF. Dude is just stirring the pot, that’s his shtick.

(03-06-2021 10:09 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(03-06-2021 12:09 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 12:11 AM)Casanova Wrote:  

(03-03-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  All the excitement over hiring the coach of the team that UCF beat in its biggest win in history.

Still cracks me up. Gus pissed away more talent at Auburn than UCF can amass in 50 years.

Nevertheless only Cincy stands in the way of UCF completely fricking the AAC.

Strange times.

Our 2017 team was special with NFL guys everywhere along with Milton. No shame in losing to that team.

And also pissed away talent? Gus was consistently at a talent deficit when compared to teams like Alabama and LSU, and was still very competitive. He wasn’t fired for being a bad coach, he was fired for not being good enough for Auburn. Those are two completely different things. You can’t be a bad coach and never of had a losing season in the toughest division in college football. You can’t be a bad coach and be 3-5 against Nick Saban. I’m not saying he’s Vince Lombardi but you sound disingenuous

You'll see his stupid shite soon enough and understand why Auburn fired him. Enjoy the honeymoon.

Gus Malzahn was a combined 7-16 (30%) against Alabama, Georgia and LSU. Gus Malzahn is 0-11 (0%) in Baton Rouge, Athens and Tuscaloosa.

That's why he was fired.

What’s Memphis record against UCF?

That simpleton logic only applies to Auburn, not Memphis. Someone is jelly all the off season hype centers around UCF. Dude is just stirring the pot, that’s his shtick.

Trying to stir the pot with nothing to stir. I think we got a damn good head coach, and so does almost everyone in the media and public forums. We also got an amazing staff. If you’re trying to trash the hire because he’s not Lombardi you need to come back to planet earth. Frost was coach of the year here, went undefeated, and flamed out at Nebraska. Gus had equally as difficult of a job at Auburn (maybe even harder than Nebraska) and won an SEC title, made a NC game, never had a losing record in his career, and was the only person who beat Saban consistently. I love this hire. Him being fired doesn’t affect me at all. Auburn has insane expectations for its program. Name me a coach right now (other than Dabo, Kelly, etc.) who would have done a better job there. You really think Harsin is going to the NC game, or winning the SEC anytime soon? I’ll be surprised if he beats Saban once

(03-05-2021 03:38 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  They are definitely creating hype which our last coach could not do. Herb Hand said in a zoom meeting, "Nobody rises to low expectations". Will UCF get there? Don't know, I hope so but they are not here simply to compete.

OL Coach Hand is a tad fired up!!!

(03-05-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 12:11 AM)Casanova Wrote:  

(03-03-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  All the excitement over hiring the coach of the team that UCF beat in its biggest win in history.

Still cracks me up. Gus pissed away more talent at Auburn than UCF can amass in 50 years.

Nevertheless only Cincy stands in the way of UCF completely fricking the AAC.

Strange times.

Our 2017 team was special with NFL guys everywhere along with Milton. No shame in losing to that team.

And also pissed away talent? Gus was consistently at a talent deficit when compared to teams like Alabama and LSU, and was still very competitive. He wasn’t fired for being a bad coach, he was fired for not being good enough for Auburn. Those are two completely different things. You can’t be a bad coach and never of had a losing season in the toughest division in college football. You can’t be a bad coach and be 3-5 against Nick Saban. I’m not saying he’s Vince Lombardi but you sound disingenuous

You'll see his stupid shite soon enough and understand why Auburn fired him. Enjoy the honeymoon.

Gus Malzahn was a combined 7-16 (30%) against Alabama, Georgia and LSU. Gus Malzahn is 0-11 (0%) in Baton Rouge, Athens and Tuscaloosa.

That's why he was fired.

I’m hopeful but reserving judgement. I know plenty of Auburn fans that said he basically called the same plays and it became predictable. While I believe talent levels are commiserate, playing at Memphis or Cincinnati don’t compare for atmosphere of playing in Death Valley, between the hedges or Bryant-Denny.

(03-08-2021 04:56 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 12:11 AM)Casanova Wrote:  

(03-03-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  All the excitement over hiring the coach of the team that UCF beat in its biggest win in history.

Still cracks me up. Gus pissed away more talent at Auburn than UCF can amass in 50 years.

Nevertheless only Cincy stands in the way of UCF completely fricking the AAC.

Strange times.

Our 2017 team was special with NFL guys everywhere along with Milton. No shame in losing to that team.

And also pissed away talent? Gus was consistently at a talent deficit when compared to teams like Alabama and LSU, and was still very competitive. He wasn’t fired for being a bad coach, he was fired for not being good enough for Auburn. Those are two completely different things. You can’t be a bad coach and never of had a losing season in the toughest division in college football. You can’t be a bad coach and be 3-5 against Nick Saban. I’m not saying he’s Vince Lombardi but you sound disingenuous

You'll see his stupid shite soon enough and understand why Auburn fired him. Enjoy the honeymoon.

Gus Malzahn was a combined 7-16 (30%) against Alabama, Georgia and LSU. Gus Malzahn is 0-11 (0%) in Baton Rouge, Athens and Tuscaloosa.

That's why he was fired.

I’m hopeful but reserving judgement. I know plenty of Auburn fans that said he basically called the same plays and it became predictable. While I believe talent levels are commiserate, playing at Memphis or Cincinnati don’t compare for atmosphere of playing in Death Valley, between the hedges or Bryant-Denny.

There's two things that are very clear about this situation:

1. There's no HC in the AAC except Fickell that can even hope to go toe to toe with Gus. Is there anyone other HC in the league that you can reasonably think could go 3-5 against Saban?

2. Gus will never be at a talent disadvantage or resource disadvantage at UCF. Cincy, Memphis, and Houston can assemble commensurate talent, but none can assemble a meaningfully superior roster the way Alabama, LSU, and Georgia can relative to Auburn. Auburn is, depending on how you look at it, the 5th to 7th best job in the SEC. At least two schools in its own division and its annual cross-over opponent are better jobs with better recruiting tools. None of that will ever be true at UCF in the AAC.

The key thing here is that Gus won at a similar clip to everyone at Auburn before him, when those guys like Tuberville faced weaker opponents in the SEC West (pre-Saban Alabama, awful Ole Miss and MSU teams, etc.). When you look at Gus's record, he only lost to an inferior team once or twice. He beat everyone he was supposed to and then did better against the most elite program and the greatest coach in the history of college football than anyone else while working at a disadvantage in talent and resources.

(03-08-2021 06:05 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(03-08-2021 04:56 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 12:11 AM)Casanova Wrote:  

(03-03-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  All the excitement over hiring the coach of the team that UCF beat in its biggest win in history.

Still cracks me up. Gus pissed away more talent at Auburn than UCF can amass in 50 years.

Nevertheless only Cincy stands in the way of UCF completely fricking the AAC.

Strange times.

Our 2017 team was special with NFL guys everywhere along with Milton. No shame in losing to that team.

And also pissed away talent? Gus was consistently at a talent deficit when compared to teams like Alabama and LSU, and was still very competitive. He wasn’t fired for being a bad coach, he was fired for not being good enough for Auburn. Those are two completely different things. You can’t be a bad coach and never of had a losing season in the toughest division in college football. You can’t be a bad coach and be 3-5 against Nick Saban. I’m not saying he’s Vince Lombardi but you sound disingenuous

You'll see his stupid shite soon enough and understand why Auburn fired him. Enjoy the honeymoon.

Gus Malzahn was a combined 7-16 (30%) against Alabama, Georgia and LSU. Gus Malzahn is 0-11 (0%) in Baton Rouge, Athens and Tuscaloosa.

That's why he was fired.

I’m hopeful but reserving judgement. I know plenty of Auburn fans that said he basically called the same plays and it became predictable. While I believe talent levels are commiserate, playing at Memphis or Cincinnati don’t compare for atmosphere of playing in Death Valley, between the hedges or Bryant-Denny.

There's two things that are very clear about this situation:

1. There's no HC in the AAC except Fickell that can even hope to go toe to toe with Gus. Is there anyone other HC in the league that you can reasonably think could go 3-5 against Saban?

2. Gus will never be at a talent disadvantage or resource disadvantage at UCF. Cincy, Memphis, and Houston can assemble commensurate talent, but none can assemble a meaningfully superior roster the way Alabama, LSU, and Georgia can relative to Auburn. Auburn is, depending on how you look at it, the 5th to 7th best job in the SEC. At least two schools in its own division and its annual cross-over opponent are better jobs with better recruiting tools. None of that will ever be true at UCF in the AAC.

The key thing here is that Gus won at a similar clip to everyone at Auburn before him, when those guys like Tuberville faced weaker opponents in the SEC West (pre-Saban Alabama, awful Ole Miss and MSU teams, etc.). When you look at Gus's record, he only lost to an inferior team once or twice. He beat everyone he was supposed to and then did better against the most elite program and the greatest coach in the history of college football than anyone else while working at a disadvantage in talent and resources.

Cool

(03-04-2021 12:11 AM)Casanova Wrote:  

(03-03-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  All the excitement over hiring the coach of the team that UCF beat in its biggest win in history.

Still cracks me up. Gus pissed away more talent at Auburn than UCF can amass in 50 years.

Nevertheless only Cincy stands in the way of UCF completely fricking the AAC.

Strange times.

Our 2017 team was special with NFL guys everywhere along with Milton. No shame in losing to that team.

And also pissed away talent? Gus was consistently at a talent deficit when compared to teams like Alabama and LSU, and was still very competitive. He wasn’t fired for being a bad coach, he was fired for not being good enough for Auburn. Those are two completely different things. You can’t be a bad coach and never of had a losing season in the toughest division in college football. You can’t be a bad coach and be 3-5 against Nick Saban. I’m not saying he’s Vince Lombardi but you sound disingenuous

For the past five years, Cincy (1.6) and Memphis (3.0) both had better average recruiting classes than UCF (3.2). If Gus needs a material talent advantage not enjoyed in the SEC to win big in the AAC, then UCF fans might be disappointed because Memphis and Cincy show no signs of recruiting slippage presently.

(03-08-2021 09:44 PM)TheUnruly1 Wrote:  

(03-08-2021 06:05 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(03-08-2021 04:56 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 12:11 AM)Casanova Wrote:  Our 2017 team was special with NFL guys everywhere along with Milton. No shame in losing to that team.

And also pissed away talent? Gus was consistently at a talent deficit when compared to teams like Alabama and LSU, and was still very competitive. He wasn’t fired for being a bad coach, he was fired for not being good enough for Auburn. Those are two completely different things. You can’t be a bad coach and never of had a losing season in the toughest division in college football. You can’t be a bad coach and be 3-5 against Nick Saban. I’m not saying he’s Vince Lombardi but you sound disingenuous

You'll see his stupid shite soon enough and understand why Auburn fired him. Enjoy the honeymoon.

Gus Malzahn was a combined 7-16 (30%) against Alabama, Georgia and LSU. Gus Malzahn is 0-11 (0%) in Baton Rouge, Athens and Tuscaloosa.

That's why he was fired.

I’m hopeful but reserving judgement. I know plenty of Auburn fans that said he basically called the same plays and it became predictable. While I believe talent levels are commiserate, playing at Memphis or Cincinnati don’t compare for atmosphere of playing in Death Valley, between the hedges or Bryant-Denny.

There's two things that are very clear about this situation:

1. There's no HC in the AAC except Fickell that can even hope to go toe to toe with Gus. Is there anyone other HC in the league that you can reasonably think could go 3-5 against Saban?

2. Gus will never be at a talent disadvantage or resource disadvantage at UCF. Cincy, Memphis, and Houston can assemble commensurate talent, but none can assemble a meaningfully superior roster the way Alabama, LSU, and Georgia can relative to Auburn. Auburn is, depending on how you look at it, the 5th to 7th best job in the SEC. At least two schools in its own division and its annual cross-over opponent are better jobs with better recruiting tools. None of that will ever be true at UCF in the AAC.

The key thing here is that Gus won at a similar clip to everyone at Auburn before him, when those guys like Tuberville faced weaker opponents in the SEC West (pre-Saban Alabama, awful Ole Miss and MSU teams, etc.). When you look at Gus's record, he only lost to an inferior team once or twice. He beat everyone he was supposed to and then did better against the most elite program and the greatest coach in the history of college football than anyone else while working at a disadvantage in talent and resources.

Cool

What’s the point of even responding with a post like that on a discussion board? If you disagree, explain why.

Seeing how this is developing, perhaps he is all in. My only worry now is that he pulls some stunt in recruiting at UCF that he got away with at Auburn - and the NCAA reminds him who is boss.

I think he'll do well in the first two years, though.

(03-08-2021 10:55 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(03-08-2021 09:44 PM)TheUnruly1 Wrote:  

(03-08-2021 06:05 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(03-08-2021 04:56 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  You'll see his stupid shite soon enough and understand why Auburn fired him. Enjoy the honeymoon.

Gus Malzahn was a combined 7-16 (30%) against Alabama, Georgia and LSU. Gus Malzahn is 0-11 (0%) in Baton Rouge, Athens and Tuscaloosa.

That's why he was fired.

I’m hopeful but reserving judgement. I know plenty of Auburn fans that said he basically called the same plays and it became predictable. While I believe talent levels are commiserate, playing at Memphis or Cincinnati don’t compare for atmosphere of playing in Death Valley, between the hedges or Bryant-Denny.

There's two things that are very clear about this situation:

1. There's no HC in the AAC except Fickell that can even hope to go toe to toe with Gus. Is there anyone other HC in the league that you can reasonably think could go 3-5 against Saban?

2. Gus will never be at a talent disadvantage or resource disadvantage at UCF. Cincy, Memphis, and Houston can assemble commensurate talent, but none can assemble a meaningfully superior roster the way Alabama, LSU, and Georgia can relative to Auburn. Auburn is, depending on how you look at it, the 5th to 7th best job in the SEC. At least two schools in its own division and its annual cross-over opponent are better jobs with better recruiting tools. None of that will ever be true at UCF in the AAC.

The key thing here is that Gus won at a similar clip to everyone at Auburn before him, when those guys like Tuberville faced weaker opponents in the SEC West (pre-Saban Alabama, awful Ole Miss and MSU teams, etc.). When you look at Gus's record, he only lost to an inferior team once or twice. He beat everyone he was supposed to and then did better against the most elite program and the greatest coach in the history of college football than anyone else while working at a disadvantage in talent and resources.

Cool

What’s the point of even responding with a post like that on a discussion board? If you disagree, explain why.

Don't agree nor do I disagree... It's all amusing.

(03-08-2021 04:56 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 12:11 AM)Casanova Wrote:  

(03-03-2021 11:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  All the excitement over hiring the coach of the team that UCF beat in its biggest win in history.

Still cracks me up. Gus pissed away more talent at Auburn than UCF can amass in 50 years.

Nevertheless only Cincy stands in the way of UCF completely fricking the AAC.

Strange times.

Our 2017 team was special with NFL guys everywhere along with Milton. No shame in losing to that team.

And also pissed away talent? Gus was consistently at a talent deficit when compared to teams like Alabama and LSU, and was still very competitive. He wasn’t fired for being a bad coach, he was fired for not being good enough for Auburn. Those are two completely different things. You can’t be a bad coach and never of had a losing season in the toughest division in college football. You can’t be a bad coach and be 3-5 against Nick Saban. I’m not saying he’s Vince Lombardi but you sound disingenuous

You'll see his stupid shite soon enough and understand why Auburn fired him. Enjoy the honeymoon.

Gus Malzahn was a combined 7-16 (30%) against Alabama, Georgia and LSU. Gus Malzahn is 0-11 (0%) in Baton Rouge, Athens and Tuscaloosa.

That's why he was fired.

I’m hopeful but reserving judgement. I know plenty of Auburn fans that said he basically called the same plays and it became predictable. While I believe talent levels are commiserate, playing at Memphis or Cincinnati don’t compare for atmosphere of playing in Death Valley, between the hedges or Bryant-Denny.

He was innovative and had Cam Newton. The wishbone worked great until it didnt. I'll give him this, he changed defenses and to some degree offense in the SEC. But you arent takin Auburn to Memphis or Cincy. Also remember when UCF beat Auburn they had played Georgia, Alabama and Georgia again...those monsters you mentioned.

I think he'll do well and have a nice honeymoon. Nobody knows past that, not really.