(02-08-2021 11:05 PM)DeeHee33 Wrote:  Small states like Alabama, South Carolina, Mississippi only have enough population for 2 major schools. Alabama/ Auburn, Clemson/South Carolina, Ole Miss, Miss State. AAC is looking for a school that can impact their particular state. Southern Miss, Coastal Carolina and UAB have no room for major growth being 3rd or 4th most popular school in a small state. A school like Marshall has more potential to become 2nd most populous school in a state. There is room in West Virginia for another major program. The perfect AAC school is Cincinnati / (Ohio State) then its Memphis / (Tennessee), Tulane / (LSU) other AAC potential school would be Colorado State /(Colorado). Big states have enough population to support schools like UCF, Houston, Temple. These Schools can still have success along side other schools in the state that belong to power 5 conferences.

By that argument, we should add UMass or perhaps Buffalo.

(02-08-2021 11:05 PM)DeeHee33 Wrote:  Small states like Alabama, South Carolina, Mississippi only have enough population for 2 major schools. Alabama/ Auburn, Clemson/South Carolina, Ole Miss, Miss State. AAC is looking for a school that can impact their particular state. Southern Miss, Coastal Carolina and UAB have no room for major growth being 3rd or 4th most popular school in a small state. A school like Marshall has more potential to become 2nd most populous school in a state. There is room in West Virginia for another major program. The perfect AAC school is Cincinnati / (Ohio State) then its Memphis / (Tennessee), Tulane / (LSU) other AAC potential school would be Colorado State /(Colorado). Big states have enough population to support schools like UCF, Houston, Temple. These Schools can still have success along side other schools in the state that belong to power 5 conferences.

Having said all of that, and correctly so, what is wrong with adding a "State Flagship" University from a state that with the larges tv market and only 2 MID-LEVEL P6 Programs (A private school and a service academy)?

(02-08-2021 11:56 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(02-08-2021 11:05 PM)DeeHee33 Wrote:  Small states like Alabama, South Carolina, Mississippi only have enough population for 2 major schools. Alabama/ Auburn, Clemson/South Carolina, Ole Miss, Miss State. AAC is looking for a school that can impact their particular state. Southern Miss, Coastal Carolina and UAB have no room for major growth being 3rd or 4th most popular school in a small state. A school like Marshall has more potential to become 2nd most populous school in a state. There is room in West Virginia for another major program. The perfect AAC school is Cincinnati / (Ohio State) then its Memphis / (Tennessee), Tulane / (LSU) other AAC potential school would be Colorado State /(Colorado). Big states have enough population to support schools like UCF, Houston, Temple. These Schools can still have success along side other schools in the state that belong to power 5 conferences.

By that argument, we should add UMass or perhaps Buffalo.

^^^^ My thought exactly ^^^^

But only one of them has an interest in growing it's football brand... The other is happy in the A-10

Actually Connecticut State (AKA, Central Connecticut State University) might be great replacement for UConn, much closer to major cities like Bridgeport and Stamford and 45 minutes closer to NYC than UConn

(02-09-2021 08:52 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(02-08-2021 11:56 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(02-08-2021 11:05 PM)DeeHee33 Wrote:  Small states like Alabama, South Carolina, Mississippi only have enough population for 2 major schools. Alabama/ Auburn, Clemson/South Carolina, Ole Miss, Miss State. AAC is looking for a school that can impact their particular state. Southern Miss, Coastal Carolina and UAB have no room for major growth being 3rd or 4th most popular school in a small state. A school like Marshall has more potential to become 2nd most populous school in a state. There is room in West Virginia for another major program. The perfect AAC school is Cincinnati / (Ohio State) then its Memphis / (Tennessee), Tulane / (LSU) other AAC potential school would be Colorado State /(Colorado). Big states have enough population to support schools like UCF, Houston, Temple. These Schools can still have success along side other schools in the state that belong to power 5 conferences.

By that argument, we should add UMass or perhaps Buffalo.

^^^^ My thought exactly ^^^^

But only one of them has an interest in growing it's football brand... The other is happy in the A-10

While I was being a bit facetious with the above post, I actually would not object to Buffalo. They have both revenue programs going strong, it's an AAU university, and it's a decent new market to add. It's too bad they dropped Danny White's attempts to brand them as New York, though. UB has probably outgrown the MAC at this point.

(02-09-2021 12:15 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(02-09-2021 08:52 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(02-08-2021 11:56 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(02-08-2021 11:05 PM)DeeHee33 Wrote:  Small states like Alabama, South Carolina, Mississippi only have enough population for 2 major schools. Alabama/ Auburn, Clemson/South Carolina, Ole Miss, Miss State. AAC is looking for a school that can impact their particular state. Southern Miss, Coastal Carolina and UAB have no room for major growth being 3rd or 4th most popular school in a small state. A school like Marshall has more potential to become 2nd most populous school in a state. There is room in West Virginia for another major program. The perfect AAC school is Cincinnati / (Ohio State) then its Memphis / (Tennessee), Tulane / (LSU) other AAC potential school would be Colorado State /(Colorado). Big states have enough population to support schools like UCF, Houston, Temple. These Schools can still have success along side other schools in the state that belong to power 5 conferences.

By that argument, we should add UMass or perhaps Buffalo.

^^^^ My thought exactly ^^^^

But only one of them has an interest in growing it's football brand... The other is happy in the A-10

While I was being a bit facetious with the above post, I actually would not object to Buffalo. They have both revenue programs going strong, it's an AAU university, and it's a decent new market to add. It's too bad they dropped Danny White's attempts to brand them as New York, though. UB has probably outgrown the MAC at this point.

Buffalo might be an acceptable add if it wasn't located in the frozen tundra and they had more of a national reputation. They do have some good things going for them. btw; Army is also located in the frozen tundra.

(02-09-2021 01:53 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(02-09-2021 12:15 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(02-09-2021 08:52 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(02-08-2021 11:56 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(02-08-2021 11:05 PM)DeeHee33 Wrote:  Small states like Alabama, South Carolina, Mississippi only have enough population for 2 major schools. Alabama/ Auburn, Clemson/South Carolina, Ole Miss, Miss State. AAC is looking for a school that can impact their particular state. Southern Miss, Coastal Carolina and UAB have no room for major growth being 3rd or 4th most popular school in a small state. A school like Marshall has more potential to become 2nd most populous school in a state. There is room in West Virginia for another major program. The perfect AAC school is Cincinnati / (Ohio State) then its Memphis / (Tennessee), Tulane / (LSU) other AAC potential school would be Colorado State /(Colorado). Big states have enough population to support schools like UCF, Houston, Temple. These Schools can still have success along side other schools in the state that belong to power 5 conferences.

By that argument, we should add UMass or perhaps Buffalo.

^^^^ My thought exactly ^^^^

But only one of them has an interest in growing it's football brand... The other is happy in the A-10

While I was being a bit facetious with the above post, I actually would not object to Buffalo. They have both revenue programs going strong, it's an AAU university, and it's a decent new market to add. It's too bad they dropped Danny White's attempts to brand them as New York, though. UB has probably outgrown the MAC at this point.

Buffalo might be an acceptable add if it wasn't located in the frozen tundra and they had more of a national reputation. They do have some good things going for them. btw; Army is also located in the frozen tundra.

With global warming in place, Buffalo and Army are now in the permafrost thaw zone.

(02-08-2021 11:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-08-2021 06:38 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  The love affair with CUSA among many of the posters here is baffling.

Exactly. The desire to get the old band back together is strong among a handful of posters. My sense is just the opposite. We already have so much old CUSA in the league we have trouble with too many people saying the AAC is just CUSA spelled sideways. lol....In order to sell the league as something different than CUSA circa 2011, we kinda need to NOT BE CUSA CIRCA 2011.

My assessment of UAB has nothing to do with CUSA. Can't relate to it at all. More has to do with qualifying metrics. Their issue right now is that the data set is too small. They need an extended run of success with more than one coach.

(02-09-2021 01:53 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(02-09-2021 12:15 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(02-09-2021 08:52 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(02-08-2021 11:56 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(02-08-2021 11:05 PM)DeeHee33 Wrote:  Small states like Alabama, South Carolina, Mississippi only have enough population for 2 major schools. Alabama/ Auburn, Clemson/South Carolina, Ole Miss, Miss State. AAC is looking for a school that can impact their particular state. Southern Miss, Coastal Carolina and UAB have no room for major growth being 3rd or 4th most popular school in a small state. A school like Marshall has more potential to become 2nd most populous school in a state. There is room in West Virginia for another major program. The perfect AAC school is Cincinnati / (Ohio State) then its Memphis / (Tennessee), Tulane / (LSU) other AAC potential school would be Colorado State /(Colorado). Big states have enough population to support schools like UCF, Houston, Temple. These Schools can still have success along side other schools in the state that belong to power 5 conferences.

By that argument, we should add UMass or perhaps Buffalo.

^^^^ My thought exactly ^^^^

But only one of them has an interest in growing it's football brand... The other is happy in the A-10

While I was being a bit facetious with the above post, I actually would not object to Buffalo. They have both revenue programs going strong, it's an AAU university, and it's a decent new market to add. It's too bad they dropped Danny White's attempts to brand them as New York, though. UB has probably outgrown the MAC at this point.

Buffalo might be an acceptable add if it wasn't located in the frozen tundra and they had more of a national reputation. They do have some good things going for them. btw; Army is also located in the frozen tundra.

LoL What does that matter? I'm not pro-Buffalo, but the temperature wouldn't even come up in my consideration. If Michigan came available, they're out too?

(02-09-2021 01:59 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  

(02-09-2021 01:53 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(02-09-2021 12:15 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(02-09-2021 08:52 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(02-08-2021 11:56 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  By that argument, we should add UMass or perhaps Buffalo.

^^^^ My thought exactly ^^^^

But only one of them has an interest in growing it's football brand... The other is happy in the A-10

While I was being a bit facetious with the above post, I actually would not object to Buffalo. They have both revenue programs going strong, it's an AAU university, and it's a decent new market to add. It's too bad they dropped Danny White's attempts to brand them as New York, though. UB has probably outgrown the MAC at this point.

Buffalo might be an acceptable add if it wasn't located in the frozen tundra and they had more of a national reputation. They do have some good things going for them. btw; Army is also located in the frozen tundra.

With global warming in place, Buffalo and Army are now in the permafrost thaw zone.

lol, love this

I think UAB should attempt to transition their name like Charlotte has in recent years. They are officially called UNC Charlotte but Charlotte has become acceptable. I think UAB should try to transition to just Birmingham.

I like what they’re doing with their facilities. Much nicer! Better location for football. Their basketball and football have been solid. Plus they have baseball. A lot to like there.

(02-09-2021 06:26 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  I think UAB should attempt to transition their name like Charlotte has in recent years. They are officially called UNC Charlotte but Charlotte has become acceptable. I think UAB should try to transition to just Birmingham.

I like what they’re doing with their facilities. Much nicer! Better location for football. Their basketball and football have been solid. Plus they have baseball. A lot to like there.

The "Birmingham Blazers" moniker has a strong feel to it. I've always liked the thought of that for UAB athletics. If UAB remains in C-USA, it can continue to be one of the top dogs in that league. Also remember UAB has strong men's soccer.

1 of 2 results will come from this in the next 3 years.
1. The AAC maintains its current membership, there's no P5 expansion and the AAC moves forward with a 3 team western expansion of BYU, Boise & SDSU.
2. The Big 12 expands poaching 1-4 of the AAC's top programs. If 1 team the AAC could stay pat at 10 but more than that would be a big tv contract hit and result in the AAC needing to backfill & rebuild from CUSA, Sunbelt & MAC programs. I don't think it's likely the Big 12 will expand at all and much less likely to expand with 4 teams.

I’ll second the idea of rebranding UAB’s athletic identity as simply Birmingham.

I’ll toss an idea out there to solve the 11 member issue. Would Navy be amenable to just a scheduling alliance as opposed to affiliate membership?

Navy could play 5 schools 1 year and the other 5 the next year.

They’d still be part of the AAC bowl line up.

Navy gets more scheduling flexibility and the AAC gets out of their conundrum.

East: Temple, Cincinnati, ECU, UCF, USF
West: Memphis, Tulane, Houston. SMU, Tulsa

Maybe Army would sign on for the same 5 game arrangement and everyone gets a service academy annually.

For the 10 AAC full members their schedule would be:
4 division mates
3 cross division games
1 service academy
4 OOC games

(02-09-2021 06:26 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  I think UAB should attempt to transition their name like Charlotte has in recent years. They are officially called UNC Charlotte but Charlotte has become acceptable. I think UAB should try to transition to just Birmingham.

I like what they’re doing with their facilities. Much nicer! Better location for football. Their basketball and football have been solid. Plus they have baseball. A lot to like there.

I liked it when they were wearing these...
road

home

(02-09-2021 07:40 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I’ll second the idea of rebranding UAB’s athletic identity as simply Birmingham.

I’ll toss an idea out there to solve the 11 member issue. Would Navy be amenable to just a scheduling alliance as opposed to affiliate membership?

Navy could play 5 schools 1 year and the other 5 the next year.

They’d still be part of the AAC bowl line up.

Navy gets more scheduling flexibility and the AAC gets out of their conundrum.

East: Temple, Cincinnati, ECU, UCF, USF
West: Memphis, Tulane, Houston. SMU, Tulsa

Maybe Army would sign on for the same 5 game arrangement and everyone gets a service academy annually.

No.

(02-09-2021 07:43 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(02-09-2021 07:40 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I’ll second the idea of rebranding UAB’s athletic identity as simply Birmingham.

I’ll toss an idea out there to solve the 11 member issue. Would Navy be amenable to just a scheduling alliance as opposed to affiliate membership?

Navy could play 5 schools 1 year and the other 5 the next year.

They’d still be part of the AAC bowl line up.

Navy gets more scheduling flexibility and the AAC gets out of their conundrum.

East: Temple, Cincinnati, ECU, UCF, USF
West: Memphis, Tulane, Houston. SMU, Tulsa

Maybe Army would sign on for the same 5 game arrangement and everyone gets a service academy annually.

No.

IDK how you don't lose your mind when people keep bringing this up. NAVY IS A GREAT BRAND FOR THE CONFERENCE WE DON'T WANT THEM TO LEAVE. Navy was invited in the first round with UCF, Houston, Memphis & SMU as well as Air Force, Boise, BYU & SDSU. So if anyone's getting a boot (they aren't) it's someone that was added at end of the conference build, one of the T's or ECU.

Some of y'all need to be real careful about trying to get conversations on removing members going because the conference wanted to be: Cincinnati, usf, Uconn, UCF, Houston, Memphis, SMU, Navy, Air Force, Boise, BYU, SDSU. And those last 4 are expressing interest in the AAC.

(02-09-2021 07:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-09-2021 06:26 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  I think UAB should attempt to transition their name like Charlotte has in recent years. They are officially called UNC Charlotte but Charlotte has become acceptable. I think UAB should try to transition to just Birmingham.

I like what they’re doing with their facilities. Much nicer! Better location for football. Their basketball and football have been solid. Plus they have baseball. A lot to like there.

I liked it when they were wearing these...
road

home

Those are nice. They have an old school classic feel, but still looks modern.

(02-09-2021 07:43 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(02-09-2021 07:40 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I’ll second the idea of rebranding UAB’s athletic identity as simply Birmingham.

I’ll toss an idea out there to solve the 11 member issue. Would Navy be amenable to just a scheduling alliance as opposed to affiliate membership?

Navy could play 5 schools 1 year and the other 5 the next year.

They’d still be part of the AAC bowl line up.

Navy gets more scheduling flexibility and the AAC gets out of their conundrum.

East: Temple, Cincinnati, ECU, UCF, USF
West: Memphis, Tulane, Houston. SMU, Tulsa

Maybe Army would sign on for the same 5 game arrangement and everyone gets a service academy annually.

No.

I second this no.

(02-09-2021 07:40 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I’ll second the idea of rebranding UAB’s athletic identity as simply Birmingham.

I’ll toss an idea out there to solve the 11 member issue. Would Navy be amenable to just a scheduling alliance as opposed to affiliate membership?

Navy could play 5 schools 1 year and the other 5 the next year.

They’d still be part of the AAC bowl line up.

Navy gets more scheduling flexibility and the AAC gets out of their conundrum.

East: Temple, Cincinnati, ECU, UCF, USF
West: Memphis, Tulane, Houston. SMU, Tulsa

Maybe Army would sign on for the same 5 game arrangement and everyone gets a service academy annually.

For the 10 AAC full members their schedule would be:
4 division mates
3 cross division games
1 service academy
4 OOC games

I'll pile on, absolutely NO