Do we ever think there will be an announcement about a presser and a new coach?

This thread makes me dread replacing CC.

(04-12-2021 06:22 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Do we ever think there will be an announcement about a presser and a new coach?

Hey, didn't you predict April 12?

If so (or April 13), maybe we should have all hibernated for a couple weeks and let it play out according to your prediction?

(04-12-2021 06:51 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-12-2021 06:22 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Do we ever think there will be an announcement about a presser and a new coach?

Hey, didn't you predict April 12?

If so (or April 13), maybe we should have all hibernated for a couple weeks and let it play out according to your prediction?

I did because those dates,appear reasonable based on the breadcrumbs Hoopdirt was leaving us. But I forgot this is EMU and everything apparently has to have some element of drama surrounding it.

(04-12-2021 06:44 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  This thread makes me dread replacing CC.

Maybe we will have a different AD by then.

I hear Stan Heath will be announced today as the next Head Coach.

(04-12-2021 10:47 AM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  I hear Stan Heath will be announced today as the next Head Coach.

(04-12-2021 10:55 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(04-12-2021 10:47 AM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  I hear Stan Heath will be announced today as the next Head Coach.

'79 predicted either Friday or today...

If '79 wants to tell me the upcoming Powerball numbers, I'm all ears. Will share the winnings with the IRS and EMU athletics...

https://twitter.com/chrissolari/status/1...18752?s=21


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Welcome home Coach Stan Heath! Let's win A MAC championship! Best of luck!

(04-12-2021 11:04 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-12-2021 10:55 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(04-12-2021 10:47 AM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  I hear Stan Heath will be announced today as the next Head Coach.

'79 predicted either Friday or today...

If '79 wants to tell me the upcoming Powerball numbers, I'm all ears. Will share the winnings with the IRS and EMU athletics...

My crystal ball just retired. Love the hire!

BTW, Hubert Davis' contract pretty well spells out what contracts are like, base + supplemental.

Looks like most major programs (including MAC?) may pay a base salary of say $400K. The rest is supplemental and I assume money through athletic fund raising.

https://hoopdirt.com/hubert-davis-contra...-released/

Haynes is moving from MA Yolanda to Arquette.

https://247sports.com/college/maryland/A...163794280/

EDIT: When I posted this I think my tablet got me.

Think it should be Maryland and Marquette....

My first choice was Bronkema because I didn’t think we had a chance at getting Heath. I wanted to add that I’m very happy with the hire. It will be a slam dunk hire if Heath hires a great staff. Heath needs to get rid of Murphy’s staff. I am hoping he add Bronkema, Boykins and someone well connected with Detroit who could recruit and coach low post players.

(04-24-2021 08:57 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  My first choice was Bronkema because I didn’t think we had a chance at getting Heath. I wanted to add that I’m very happy with the hire. It will be a slam dunk hire if Heath hires a great staff. Heath needs to get rid of Murphy’s staff. I am hoping he add Bronkema, Boykins and someone well connected with Detroit who could recruit and coach low post players.

Murphy's staff is gone. They were let go early. Think the only questions were if Drew would stay and if there is a chance Wooten might come back (don't know what he did the last season).

That said, and reading your post, this idea of 'recruiting Detroit' is still very much 1990s thinking...

As we have discussed many times, mid-major coaches are now becoming reluctant to recruit high school players. Recruit the next Boykins, Theron Wilson, etc. and they may be gone after two years.

The idea of recruiting a really good h.s. quartet or class as EMU did in the 90s is history isn't likely to happen. Maybe UofM or MSU can do it and get the kids to stay until they look at the NBA.

The preference now is to get players with D-I experience who have exhausted their ONE AND ONLY 'get out of jail card' (transfer without a situout year).

If Lowder transfers he will be at THREE schools in THREE years.

I'd rather have a junior who played two years, exhausted his one free transfer and will stay with my program for two years.

Steve, I think your post is simultaneously BRILLIANT and conversely I disagree with your second point.

First the brilliance. I never realized how well the new transfer rules will benefit EMU. As other posters previously mentioned, EMU and mid majors will get the benefit of players from high major programs who are transferring for lack of playing time or whatever. These are kids that otherwise have potential but might just need a change of environment or some consistent in-game time to get into a rhythm/ build some inertia/etc. Since they just used up their one time get out of jail card already, they will likely NOT transfer out of EMU.

Conversely, if EMU recruits a freshman who does great for a year or two before transferring up to a high major- I think we will still value that year or two for the EMU program that allowed him to transfer out. I still think EMU should be recruiting high school for those potential gems who will only stay a year or two.

I think the problem in all this, is it just made recruiting that much more complicated. Probably need to add an additional assistant from past norms to handle both the high school side, the transfer side, and the retention side.

(04-24-2021 09:51 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Steve, I think your post is simultaneously BRILLIANT and conversely I disagree with your second point.

First the brilliance. I never realized how well the new transfer rules will benefit EMU. As other posters previously mentioned, EMU and mid majors will get the benefit of players from high major programs who are transferring for lack of playing time or whatever. These are kids that otherwise have potential but might just need a change of environment or some consistent in-game time to get into a rhythm/ build some inertia/etc. Since they just used up their one time get out of jail card already, they will likely NOT transfer out of EMU.

Conversely, if EMU recruits a freshman who does great for a year or two before transferring up to a high major- I think we will still value that year or two for the EMU program that allowed him to transfer out. I still think EMU should be recruiting high school for those potential gems who will only stay a year or two.

I think the problem in all this, is it just made recruiting that much more complicated. Probably need to add an additional assistant from past norms to handle both the high school side, the transfer side, and the retention side.

You get it. Someone else also 'got it' when they said we'd never been able to do what Ben Braun did in Fall 1991 by bringing in Tolbert, Wilson, etc. and then later Boykins, Dial, Head, Mick, etc. and get them to stay for their 4 years.

In those days, if you had a winning program players did NOT leave.

Now, it is like pro sports, Washington Nationals players won the World Series and a month later some were GONE. Gone. Gone.

Of course it was after the parade. "I love D.C. I love this Team. My family. I'm a Nat for life."

A month later they are gone to Phoenix or Cleveland...

BTW, for those who are too young (or don't remember) the early 1990s. We went to the Sweet 16 with a senior laden team. BobW can recite the roster: Kennedy., C. Thomas, another C. Thomas, Neely, etc. HOWEVER 1992/3 was a total rebuild. But in those days, a total rebuild frequently bore fruit in say year 3 and 4. Certainly did in our case. Can it again????? I'm not sure.

(04-24-2021 10:03 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 09:51 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Steve, I think your post is simultaneously BRILLIANT and conversely I disagree with your second point.

First the brilliance. I never realized how well the new transfer rules will benefit EMU. As other posters previously mentioned, EMU and mid majors will get the benefit of players from high major programs who are transferring for lack of playing time or whatever. These are kids that otherwise have potential but might just need a change of environment or some consistent in-game time to get into a rhythm/ build some inertia/etc. Since they just used up their one time get out of jail card already, they will likely NOT transfer out of EMU.

Conversely, if EMU recruits a freshman who does great for a year or two before transferring up to a high major- I think we will still value that year or two for the EMU program that allowed him to transfer out. I still think EMU should be recruiting high school for those potential gems who will only stay a year or two.

I think the problem in all this, is it just made recruiting that much more complicated. Probably need to add an additional assistant from past norms to handle both the high school side, the transfer side, and the retention side.

You get it. Someone else also 'got it' when they said we'd never been able to do what Ben Braun did in Fall 1991 by bringing in Tolbert, Wilson, etc. and then later Boykins, Dial, Head, Mick, etc. and get them to stay for their 4 years.

In those days, if you had a winning program players did NOT leave.

Now, it is like pro sports, Washington Nationals players won the World Series and a month later some were GONE. Gone. Gone.

Of course it was after the parade. "I love D.C. I love this Team. My family. I'm a Nat for life."

A month later they are gone to Phoenix or Cleveland...

BTW, for those who are too young (or don't remember) the early 1990s. We went to the Sweet 16 with a senior laden team. BobW can recite the roster: Kennedy., C. Thomas, another C. Thomas, Neely, etc. HOWEVER 1992/3 was a total rebuild. But in those days, a total rebuild frequently bore fruit in say year 3 and 4. Certainly did in our case. Can it again????? I'm not sure.

We will win again, but not with a 90s model of roster development.