(01-16-2021 08:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 06:10 PM)HERDDDDD Wrote:  I really know nothing about Huff. We did need some fresh blood and that’s what this is. Who knows how he’ll do? I just hope the fan base gives him time to succeed, and the governor promptly sends him down the road if he doesn’t.

That is not going to happen, not even if Marshall, falls to 2016 levels, or worse. This is going to be a 4 year coach at Marshall....unless he wins big enough to be wanted by a P5.

If he is average, just 6 to 8 wins a year over 4 season. He is getting a 5th, 6th and maybe 7th season at Marshall. If not its going to be a PR nightmare for Marshall

Yes. Sigh.

(01-16-2021 07:28 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 05:27 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 05:10 PM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 04:06 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Don’t know anything about this guy but I do know he’s not Lambert and that’s a good thing for Marshall.

Supposedly it was really close to being Lambert. The committed adjourned their meeting last night deadlocked.

Well, they made the right decision.

Why? This guy is a RB coach. There were tons of more qualified candidates.

My thoughts exactly. Huff has no experience as a head coach, an OC or a DC. Everyone just talks about how young Huff is and what a great recruiter he is. And we all know Head coaches in their 30's are not winning any NC's, and we all know it's not really tough to recruit football players to Alabama. So there's that.

This looks like the Frank Wilson (UTSA) hire all over again.

(01-16-2021 09:46 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 07:28 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 05:27 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 05:10 PM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 04:06 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Don’t know anything about this guy but I do know he’s not Lambert and that’s a good thing for Marshall.

Supposedly it was really close to being Lambert. The committed adjourned their meeting last night deadlocked.

Well, they made the right decision.

Why? This guy is a RB coach. There were tons of more qualified candidates.

My thoughts exactly. Huff has no experience as a head coach, an OC or a DC. Everyone just talks about how young Huff is and what a great recruiter he is. And we all know Head coaches in their 30's are not winning any NC's, and we all know it's not really tough to recruit football players to Alabama. So there's that.

This looks like the Frank Wilson (UTSA) hire all over again.

Neither did Urban Meyer or Nick Saban when they both become head coaches the first time. But who am I to bring that up.

I guess we could have stole Skip Holtz. Yeah, no thanks.

(01-16-2021 09:46 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 07:28 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 05:27 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 05:10 PM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 04:06 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Don’t know anything about this guy but I do know he’s not Lambert and that’s a good thing for Marshall.

Supposedly it was really close to being Lambert. The committed adjourned their meeting last night deadlocked.

Well, they made the right decision.

Why? This guy is a RB coach. There were tons of more qualified candidates.

My thoughts exactly. Huff has no experience as a head coach, an OC or a DC. Everyone just talks about how young Huff is and what a great recruiter he is. And we all know Head coaches in their 30's are not winning any NC's, and we all know it's not really tough to recruit football players to Alabama. So there's that.

This looks like the Frank Wilson (UTSA) hire all over again.

I am a NY Giants fan. People said the same exact thing about Joe Judge last year. Record in 2020 being what it was...it is now absolutely a known fact Joe Judge was the right hire for my Giants.

He is a leader. He inspires his players. He takes no crap (look up the Marc Columbo story below). He is a dude.

https://www.nj.com/giants/2020/11/giants...lombo.html

He is the age range of Huff, and like Huff, had no HC, OC or DC experience (was the Patriots special teams coordinator).

Make no mistake, I am convinced the most important qualities in a coach at our level need to be...

1) Leadership
2) Ability to connect
3) Recruiting

Huff has those qualities in spades. Again, go look up the reaction of Alabama fans. That speaks volumes right now.

Recruiting at Alabama consists of asking a kid what color Dodge Charger he would like. I just don't see this being a good hire.

(01-16-2021 09:57 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 09:46 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 07:28 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 05:27 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 05:10 PM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  Supposedly it was really close to being Lambert. The committed adjourned their meeting last night deadlocked.

Well, they made the right decision.

Why? This guy is a RB coach. There were tons of more qualified candidates.

My thoughts exactly. Huff has no experience as a head coach, an OC or a DC. Everyone just talks about how young Huff is and what a great recruiter he is. And we all know Head coaches in their 30's are not winning any NC's, and we all know it's not really tough to recruit football players to Alabama. So there's that.

This looks like the Frank Wilson (UTSA) hire all over again.

I am a NY Giants fan. People said the same exact thing about Joe Judge last year. Record in 2020 being what it was...it is now absolutely a known fact Joe Judge was the right hire for my Giants.

He is a leader. He inspires his players. He takes no crap (look up the Marc Columbo story below). He is a dude.

https://www.nj.com/giants/2020/11/giants...lombo.html

He is the age range of Huff, and like Huff, had no HC, OC or DC experience (was the Patriots special teams coordinator).

Make no mistake, I am convinced the most important qualities in a coach at our level need to be...

1) Leadership
2) Ability to connect
3) Recruiting

Huff has those qualities in spades. Again, go look up the reaction of Alabama fans. That speaks volumes right now.

Those mighty 6-10 Giants, lol.

Rumor is that he may bring Bamas WR coach in as OC... You guys hearing anyhting regarding staffing?

(01-16-2021 10:08 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 09:57 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 09:46 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 07:28 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 05:27 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Well, they made the right decision.

Why? This guy is a RB coach. There were tons of more qualified candidates.

My thoughts exactly. Huff has no experience as a head coach, an OC or a DC. Everyone just talks about how young Huff is and what a great recruiter he is. And we all know Head coaches in their 30's are not winning any NC's, and we all know it's not really tough to recruit football players to Alabama. So there's that.

This looks like the Frank Wilson (UTSA) hire all over again.

I am a NY Giants fan. People said the same exact thing about Joe Judge last year. Record in 2020 being what it was...it is now absolutely a known fact Joe Judge was the right hire for my Giants.

He is a leader. He inspires his players. He takes no crap (look up the Marc Columbo story below). He is a dude.

https://www.nj.com/giants/2020/11/giants...lombo.html

He is the age range of Huff, and like Huff, had no HC, OC or DC experience (was the Patriots special teams coordinator).

Make no mistake, I am convinced the most important qualities in a coach at our level need to be...

1) Leadership
2) Ability to connect
3) Recruiting

Huff has those qualities in spades. Again, go look up the reaction of Alabama fans. That speaks volumes right now.

Those mighty 6-10 Giants, lol.

You clearly don't get it.

It’s been 16 years since Marshall’s had a head coach or a program with some personality, relatability, or an energetic spark. Coach Huff has this in abundance! I’m just glad it looks like we’re sending the message that we’re not going to be the dull shell of the program we have been in recent years...

(01-16-2021 09:57 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 09:46 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 07:28 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 05:27 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 05:10 PM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  Supposedly it was really close to being Lambert. The committed adjourned their meeting last night deadlocked.

Well, they made the right decision.

Why? This guy is a RB coach. There were tons of more qualified candidates.

My thoughts exactly. Huff has no experience as a head coach, an OC or a DC. Everyone just talks about how young Huff is and what a great recruiter he is. And we all know Head coaches in their 30's are not winning any NC's, and we all know it's not really tough to recruit football players to Alabama. So there's that.

This looks like the Frank Wilson (UTSA) hire all over again.

I am a NY Giants fan. People said the same exact thing about Joe Judge last year. Record in 2020 being what it was...it is now absolutely a known fact Joe Judge was the right hire for my Giants.

He is a leader. He inspires his players. He takes no crap (look up the Marc Columbo story below). He is a dude.

https://www.nj.com/giants/2020/11/giants...lombo.html

He is the age range of Huff, and like Huff, had no HC, OC or DC experience (was the Patriots special teams coordinator).

Make no mistake, I am convinced the most important qualities in a coach at our level need to be...

1) Leadership
2) Ability to connect
3) Recruiting

Huff has those qualities in spades. Again, go look up the reaction of Alabama fans. That speaks volumes right now.

You honestly think this is a good hire? Just because your school made the hire doesn't mean you have to support it. I don't get behind every decision my school makes.

(01-16-2021 09:46 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 07:28 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 05:27 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 05:10 PM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 04:06 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Don’t know anything about this guy but I do know he’s not Lambert and that’s a good thing for Marshall.

Supposedly it was really close to being Lambert. The committed adjourned their meeting last night deadlocked.

Well, they made the right decision.

Why? This guy is a RB coach. There were tons of more qualified candidates.

My thoughts exactly. Huff has no experience as a head coach, an OC or a DC. Everyone just talks about how young Huff is and what a great recruiter he is. And we all know Head coaches in their 30's are not winning any NC's, and we all know it's not really tough to recruit football players to Alabama. So there's that.

This looks like the Frank Wilson (UTSA) hire all over again.

Yeah, Frank was a great recruiter and that was it.

(01-16-2021 09:57 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 09:46 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 07:28 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 05:27 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 05:10 PM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  Supposedly it was really close to being Lambert. The committed adjourned their meeting last night deadlocked.

Well, they made the right decision.

Why? This guy is a RB coach. There were tons of more qualified candidates.

My thoughts exactly. Huff has no experience as a head coach, an OC or a DC. Everyone just talks about how young Huff is and what a great recruiter he is. And we all know Head coaches in their 30's are not winning any NC's, and we all know it's not really tough to recruit football players to Alabama. So there's that.

This looks like the Frank Wilson (UTSA) hire all over again.

I am a NY Giants fan. People said the same exact thing about Joe Judge last year. Record in 2020 being what it was...it is now absolutely a known fact Joe Judge was the right hire for my Giants.

He is a leader. He inspires his players. He takes no crap (look up the Marc Columbo story below). He is a dude.

https://www.nj.com/giants/2020/11/giants...lombo.html

He is the age range of Huff, and like Huff, had no HC, OC or DC experience (was the Patriots special teams coordinator).

Make no mistake, I am convinced the most important qualities in a coach at our level need to be...

1) Leadership
2) Ability to connect
3) Recruiting

Huff has those qualities in spades. Again, go look up the reaction of Alabama fans. That speaks volumes right now.

I think you are just a positive guy. My entire family are Giants fans and are still not excited about the Judge hire. The Giants had 1 good win this year against the Seahawks and all the rest were against teams with losing records. I like the old saying You can't polish a turd.

(01-16-2021 11:27 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  You honestly think this is a good hire? Just because your school made the hire doesn't mean you have to support it. I don't get behind every decision my school makes.

LOL, imagine trying to compare Will Hall to Charles Huff...

(01-17-2021 02:46 AM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 11:27 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  You honestly think this is a good hire? Just because your school made the hire doesn't mean you have to support it. I don't get behind every decision my school makes.

LOL, imagine trying to compare Will Hall to Charles Huff...

No dog in this fight but Will Hall's resume is much better. Will has been a Head Coach plus a Coordinator for several teams. Charles Huff has been a position coach for his whole career. This hire will be either great or a colossal failure for Marshall. If I was a betting man I would bet on Hall instead of Huff. I hope it works out for Huff because as a Conference we need Marshall to succeed.

I’ve been a Marshall fan for 40 plus years. Sonny Randle, Stan Parrish, George Chaump, Jim Donnan, Bobby Pruett, Mark Snyder, and Doc. Not one of them (and I am personal friends with the Chaump family) had the fire that Huff does. Not even Pruett although it’s close.

Urban got his start at Bowling Green. Bobby Pruett hadn’t been a HC before taking over at Marshall. I am excited about this guy. I think he can reunite the team and pull everyone together.

I’m just thankful they hired outside of Marshall & WV. West Virginians are VERY protective of their own. I’ve lived in WV since my freshman year at MU 1998. Married a WV girl. My boys were born here. Ive lived longer in WV then I did growing up in IL yet I still get looks from people of distrust and comments like “you’re not from here are you”?

It’s so refreshing that they are actually stepping outside of the state. I’m sure Hamrick wanted Lambert & I fully expected that to happen.

This doesn't seem like the right hire IMO. But I've been wrong plenty of times before. We shall see how it turns out. My main concern is I don't particularly trust those who have not called plays before, whether offense or defense. I know there are a couple of examples to the contrary, Dabo Swinney being one, and I guess Orgeron can count, since he had that incredible year. But for the most part, they don't succeed because it is a big leap in responsibility for one move, and I'm not sold on everything Saban touches, turning to gold, when it comes to his assistants. aka, Muschamp, Dooley, Pruitt, Smart, etc. I don't count Sark or Kiffin because they had been head coaches prior to attending Saban's coaching rehab program.

(01-16-2021 07:26 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  [quote='SVHerd' pid='17226287' dateline='1610833370']
Supposedly one of the top recruiters in the country. High energy, young guy. I’ll take it and see where it goes
[/quote

A top recruiter at the #1 team in the country.

The number one team in the country with the largest under the table budget in the country. Tuff recruiting job I’d say.

(01-16-2021 09:02 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 08:57 PM)Dusky Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 08:20 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 05:08 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  I think Marshall is one of the best jobs in CUSA. I obviously know nothing of the politics there, but I feel they could have done better than this. I also could be totally wrong.

Have you been to Huntington?

(01-16-2021 08:50 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 08:44 PM)Dusky Wrote:  I’m not to get into a pissing match regarding attendance other than point out the vast entertainment options in Boca vs Huntington.

I think everyone agrees that Taggart is a heck of a recruiter and we added a new co OC this week that has a unbelievable recruiting record as well. Where the jury is out (at least for me) is the game day coaching, adjustments and decision making. Without a workable qb it’s hard to know where the problem was but it appears we are going to have that issue resolved behind most likely the best O line in CUSA so there shouldn’t be any excuses to move the ball.

I like the direction FAU is heading. It's gonna be tough for Marshall. We lost some good O-line talent this year, and it didn't seem the backups in place were the answer. Lost a couple key elements on D.

Our focus now needs to be hitting the right staff around Huff. We need a competent coaching staff who can mold Grant Wells properly.

You have a huge unknown in Huff as a head coach. I would like a few Ws against Marshall to start getting our record evened out but I do think Wells could be a serious threat if you bring in the right staff. Problem is Huff has never hired a staff and it’s late in the game at this point.

with hope of getting big dollars and back to a P5 level in the next few years.

Seriously?
We would all be better off if we would just accept the trajectory we are on. No coach is going to change it. None of us will ever be “P5 level”.

Edit: apologies. I miss understood.

(01-16-2021 08:29 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 08:26 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 08:25 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 08:20 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 05:08 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  I think Marshall is one of the best jobs in CUSA. I obviously know nothing of the politics there, but I feel they could have done better than this. I also could be totally wrong.

Have you been to Huntington?

Have you?

Yes

I live in Lexington, and I get the Huntington hate.

But for a small town, Huntington has a lot to offer.

Besides, Huntington or location isn't what makes the Marshall job attractive. It's a proven commodity. Boca can't be beat for location, but FAU has a LONG way to go to achieve the kind of name recognition of Marshall.

The proven commodity is it has won TWO conference championship in the last 20 years. Living on your accomplishments of the 90's sounds like Hurricane fans. What have you done for us lately, the answer...not much. Now go act like a flagship!