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Packer and Durham's ACC accounting segments are solid
The Packer and Durham segments when they try to rank the ACC 1 to 15 are enjoyable. It's a tough thing to attempt, but they do a good job trying.

I love Packer adding a 16th team ... and the first hoops accounting, slotting Kentucky in the 16th spot since they are 0 - 4 against ACC schools. 03-lmfao




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So that’s why the Cayuts didn’t want to join The ACC when CM Newton looked at jumping....lol
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RE: Packer and Durham's ACC accounting segments are solid
(01-05-2021 03:30 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  So that’s why the Cayuts didn’t want to join The ACC when CM Newton looked at jumping....lol

Seriously if UK had been in the ACC they would not have anywhere near the winning records they have in basketball. In any other conference actually they would a lot more losses than they do over the years.
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RE: Packer and Durham's ACC accounting segments are solid
(01-05-2021 09:53 PM)uldn Wrote:  
(01-05-2021 03:30 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  So that’s why the Cayuts didn’t want to join The ACC when CM Newton looked at jumping....lol

Seriously if UK had been in the ACC they would not have anywhere near the winning records they have in basketball. In any other conference actually they would a lot more losses than they do over the years.

Yep...
For decades in The SEC basketball was treated as just something to do between the ONLY two seasons that matter in that conference:

Football and Football Spring Practice

UK inflated its records playing what amounted to SEC intramural teams.

Basketball is so popular in The SEC that Florida, the defending NCAA basketball champion couldn’t sell out The SEC tournament in Tampa.

It’s basically Kentucky and a bunch of nobodies in The SEC. We keep hearing about how all that money they are making is going to improve basketball. We haven’t seen it yet.
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RE: Packer and Durham's ACC accounting segments are solid
(01-06-2021 07:43 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(01-05-2021 09:53 PM)uldn Wrote:  
(01-05-2021 03:30 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  So that’s why the Cayuts didn’t want to join The ACC when CM Newton looked at jumping....lol

Seriously if UK had been in the ACC they would not have anywhere near the winning records they have in basketball. In any other conference actually they would a lot more losses than they do over the years.

Yep...
For decades in The SEC basketball was treated as just something to do between the ONLY two seasons that matter in that conference:

Football and Football Spring Practice

UK inflated its records playing what amounted to SEC intramural teams.

Basketball is so popular in The SEC that Florida, the defending NCAA basketball champion couldn’t sell out The SEC tournament in Tampa.

It’s basically Kentucky and a bunch of nobodies in The SEC. We keep hearing about how all that money they are making is going to improve basketball. We haven’t seen it yet.

IDK, I think we have seen it... when South Carolina made the Final Four in 2017 and then Auburn made it in 2019, that was the "invest in basketball" effect, IMO.
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RE: Packer and Durham's ACC accounting segments are solid
(01-07-2021 01:27 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(01-06-2021 07:43 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(01-05-2021 09:53 PM)uldn Wrote:  
(01-05-2021 03:30 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  So that’s why the Cayuts didn’t want to join The ACC when CM Newton looked at jumping....lol

Seriously if UK had been in the ACC they would not have anywhere near the winning records they have in basketball. In any other conference actually they would a lot more losses than they do over the years.

Yep...
For decades in The SEC basketball was treated as just something to do between the ONLY two seasons that matter in that conference:

Football and Football Spring Practice

UK inflated its records playing what amounted to SEC intramural teams.

Basketball is so popular in The SEC that Florida, the defending NCAA basketball champion couldn’t sell out The SEC tournament in Tampa.

It’s basically Kentucky and a bunch of nobodies in The SEC. We keep hearing about how all that money they are making is going to improve basketball. We haven’t seen it yet.

IDK, I think we have seen it... when South Carolina made the Final Four in 2017 and then Auburn made it in 2019, that was the "invest in basketball" effect, IMO.

And what's South Carolina done since 2017? No NCAA Tournament bids. LSU made the Final Four in 2006 and has made two NCAA bids since then. You can have a fluke good year but I'm only going to respect you if you sustain it. The only SEC school other than UK I respect is Florida.
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RE: Packer and Durham's ACC accounting segments are solid
(01-07-2021 01:27 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(01-06-2021 07:43 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(01-05-2021 09:53 PM)uldn Wrote:  
(01-05-2021 03:30 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  So that’s why the Cayuts didn’t want to join The ACC when CM Newton looked at jumping....lol

Seriously if UK had been in the ACC they would not have anywhere near the winning records they have in basketball. In any other conference actually they would a lot more losses than they do over the years.

Yep...
For decades in The SEC basketball was treated as just something to do between the ONLY two seasons that matter in that conference:

Football and Football Spring Practice

UK inflated its records playing what amounted to SEC intramural teams.

Basketball is so popular in The SEC that Florida, the defending NCAA basketball champion couldn’t sell out The SEC tournament in Tampa.

It’s basically Kentucky and a bunch of nobodies in The SEC. We keep hearing about how all that money they are making is going to improve basketball. We haven’t seen it yet.

IDK, I think we have seen it... when South Carolina made the Final Four in 2017 and then Auburn made it in 2019, that was the "invest in basketball" effect, IMO.

It's interesting that South Carolina made the final 4 with players that had been high on Carolina's recruiting board at a time when opposing coaches were claiming the Tar Heels would be on probation and they would never be seen on TV. Some of the coaches that spread those lies as a recruiting tool reaped the rewards of the services of players the Tar Heels were courting.
One of the worst was Martin at South Carolina, and he profited with an outstanding class. Since his fear mongering is no longer relevant, that bubble has burst and the Gamecocks are returning to normal.
Of course the irony is that Carolina with a roster of lesser recruited players eliminated the chickens in the opening round of the final four and went on to capture the championship....again.
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RE: Packer and Durham's ACC accounting segments are solid
(01-08-2021 06:10 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(01-07-2021 01:27 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(01-06-2021 07:43 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(01-05-2021 09:53 PM)uldn Wrote:  
(01-05-2021 03:30 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  So that’s why the Cayuts didn’t want to join The ACC when CM Newton looked at jumping....lol

Seriously if UK had been in the ACC they would not have anywhere near the winning records they have in basketball. In any other conference actually they would a lot more losses than they do over the years.

Yep...
For decades in The SEC basketball was treated as just something to do between the ONLY two seasons that matter in that conference:

Football and Football Spring Practice

UK inflated its records playing what amounted to SEC intramural teams.

Basketball is so popular in The SEC that Florida, the defending NCAA basketball champion couldn’t sell out The SEC tournament in Tampa.

It’s basically Kentucky and a bunch of nobodies in The SEC. We keep hearing about how all that money they are making is going to improve basketball. We haven’t seen it yet.

IDK, I think we have seen it... when South Carolina made the Final Four in 2017 and then Auburn made it in 2019, that was the "invest in basketball" effect, IMO.

It's interesting that South Carolina made the final 4 with players that had been high on Carolina's recruiting board at a time when opposing coaches were claiming the Tar Heels would be on probation and they would never be seen on TV. Some of the coaches that spread those lies as a recruiting tool reaped the rewards of the services of players the Tar Heels were courting.
One of the worst was Martin at South Carolina, and he profited with an outstanding class. Since his fear mongering is no longer relevant, that bubble has burst and the Gamecocks are returning to normal.
Of course the irony is that Carolina with a roster of lesser recruited players eliminated the chickens in the opening round of the final four and went on to capture the championship....again.


Let me add some evidence to your assertion regarding South Carolina and recruiting shenanigans.

The Oklahoma State assistant coach who was arrested in the FBI scandal effecting dozens of programs ... came to Oklahoma State from South Carolina. While at South Carolina he was the lead recruiter for PJ Dozier, a recruit Louisville was heavily recruiting. At the last minute, Dozier chooses South Carolina, kinda out of nowhere ... and Dozier is one of the starters that gets South Carolina to the Final Four.

A year ago ... the NCAA sent South Carolina a Notice of Allegations, specifically involving Lamont Evans and his recruiting of PJ Dozier. https://www.wistv.com/2020/02/14/south-c...ant-coach/


I am convinced that when Pitino lost out on PJ Dozier, he finally said F*** it .. get me adidas on the phone. I am now losing top 50 players to illegal recruiting ... if noone else is getting caught, I better start doing this too.

Frank Martin is as dirty as the day is long.
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RE: Packer and Durham's ACC accounting segments are solid
(01-08-2021 12:36 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  
(01-08-2021 06:10 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(01-07-2021 01:27 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(01-06-2021 07:43 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(01-05-2021 09:53 PM)uldn Wrote:  Seriously if UK had been in the ACC they would not have anywhere near the winning records they have in basketball. In any other conference actually they would a lot more losses than they do over the years.

Yep...
For decades in The SEC basketball was treated as just something to do between the ONLY two seasons that matter in that conference:

Football and Football Spring Practice

UK inflated its records playing what amounted to SEC intramural teams.

Basketball is so popular in The SEC that Florida, the defending NCAA basketball champion couldn’t sell out The SEC tournament in Tampa.

It’s basically Kentucky and a bunch of nobodies in The SEC. We keep hearing about how all that money they are making is going to improve basketball. We haven’t seen it yet.

IDK, I think we have seen it... when South Carolina made the Final Four in 2017 and then Auburn made it in 2019, that was the "invest in basketball" effect, IMO.

It's interesting that South Carolina made the final 4 with players that had been high on Carolina's recruiting board at a time when opposing coaches were claiming the Tar Heels would be on probation and they would never be seen on TV. Some of the coaches that spread those lies as a recruiting tool reaped the rewards of the services of players the Tar Heels were courting.
One of the worst was Martin at South Carolina, and he profited with an outstanding class. Since his fear mongering is no longer relevant, that bubble has burst and the Gamecocks are returning to normal.
Of course the irony is that Carolina with a roster of lesser recruited players eliminated the chickens in the opening round of the final four and went on to capture the championship....again.


Let me add some evidence to your assertion regarding South Carolina and recruiting shenanigans.

The Oklahoma State assistant coach who was arrested in the FBI scandal effecting dozens of programs ... came to Oklahoma State from South Carolina. While at South Carolina he was the lead recruiter for PJ Dozier, a recruit Louisville was heavily recruiting. At the last minute, Dozier chooses South Carolina, kinda out of nowhere ... and Dozier is one of the starters that gets South Carolina to the Final Four.

A year ago ... the NCAA sent South Carolina a Notice of Allegations, specifically involving Lamont Evans and his recruiting of PJ Dozier. https://www.wistv.com/2020/02/14/south-c...ant-coach/


I am convinced that when Pitino lost out on PJ Dozier, he finally said F*** it .. get me adidas on the phone. I am now losing top 50 players to illegal recruiting ... if noone else is getting caught, I better start doing this too.

Frank Martin is as dirty as the day is long.

As much as I hate to defend South Carolina in anything his commitment wasn't "from out of nowhere". His father, uncle, and older sister all played basketball for South Carolina. PJ grew up in Columbia. PJ played high school ball for a South Carolina grad. He played AAU ball for a team that's always been a conduit to South Carolina. His girlfriend at the time was going to South Carolina. The fact that he was looking anywhere is is far more incredulous than the idea he went to South Carolina.
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(01-08-2021 07:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-08-2021 12:36 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  
(01-08-2021 06:10 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(01-07-2021 01:27 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(01-06-2021 07:43 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Yep...
For decades in The SEC basketball was treated as just something to do between the ONLY two seasons that matter in that conference:

Football and Football Spring Practice

UK inflated its records playing what amounted to SEC intramural teams.

Basketball is so popular in The SEC that Florida, the defending NCAA basketball champion couldn’t sell out The SEC tournament in Tampa.

It’s basically Kentucky and a bunch of nobodies in The SEC. We keep hearing about how all that money they are making is going to improve basketball. We haven’t seen it yet.

IDK, I think we have seen it... when South Carolina made the Final Four in 2017 and then Auburn made it in 2019, that was the "invest in basketball" effect, IMO.

It's interesting that South Carolina made the final 4 with players that had been high on Carolina's recruiting board at a time when opposing coaches were claiming the Tar Heels would be on probation and they would never be seen on TV. Some of the coaches that spread those lies as a recruiting tool reaped the rewards of the services of players the Tar Heels were courting.
One of the worst was Martin at South Carolina, and he profited with an outstanding class. Since his fear mongering is no longer relevant, that bubble has burst and the Gamecocks are returning to normal.
Of course the irony is that Carolina with a roster of lesser recruited players eliminated the chickens in the opening round of the final four and went on to capture the championship....again.


Let me add some evidence to your assertion regarding South Carolina and recruiting shenanigans.

The Oklahoma State assistant coach who was arrested in the FBI scandal effecting dozens of programs ... came to Oklahoma State from South Carolina. While at South Carolina he was the lead recruiter for PJ Dozier, a recruit Louisville was heavily recruiting. At the last minute, Dozier chooses South Carolina, kinda out of nowhere ... and Dozier is one of the starters that gets South Carolina to the Final Four.

A year ago ... the NCAA sent South Carolina a Notice of Allegations, specifically involving Lamont Evans and his recruiting of PJ Dozier. https://www.wistv.com/2020/02/14/south-c...ant-coach/


I am convinced that when Pitino lost out on PJ Dozier, he finally said F*** it .. get me adidas on the phone. I am now losing top 50 players to illegal recruiting ... if noone else is getting caught, I better start doing this too.

Frank Martin is as dirty as the day is long.

As much as I hate to defend South Carolina in anything his commitment wasn't "from out of nowhere". His father, uncle, and older sister all played basketball for South Carolina. PJ grew up in Columbia. PJ played high school ball for a South Carolina grad. He played AAU ball for a team that's always been a conduit to South Carolina. His girlfriend at the time was going to South Carolina. The fact that he was looking anywhere is is far more incredulous than the idea he went to South Carolina.


Yeah ... because South Carolina SCREAMS college basketball power house, and little ole Louisville with it's 10 Final Fours, and 3 national championships, Hall of Fame Coach Rick Pitino, Top 3 Basketball attendance for 3 decades and counting, could NEVER sway the attention of a top 50 kid from South Carolina ....


You gotta do better than that ... Cuz that's weak sauce.
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(01-08-2021 10:18 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  
(01-08-2021 07:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-08-2021 12:36 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  
(01-08-2021 06:10 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(01-07-2021 01:27 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  IDK, I think we have seen it... when South Carolina made the Final Four in 2017 and then Auburn made it in 2019, that was the "invest in basketball" effect, IMO.

It's interesting that South Carolina made the final 4 with players that had been high on Carolina's recruiting board at a time when opposing coaches were claiming the Tar Heels would be on probation and they would never be seen on TV. Some of the coaches that spread those lies as a recruiting tool reaped the rewards of the services of players the Tar Heels were courting.
One of the worst was Martin at South Carolina, and he profited with an outstanding class. Since his fear mongering is no longer relevant, that bubble has burst and the Gamecocks are returning to normal.
Of course the irony is that Carolina with a roster of lesser recruited players eliminated the chickens in the opening round of the final four and went on to capture the championship....again.


Let me add some evidence to your assertion regarding South Carolina and recruiting shenanigans.

The Oklahoma State assistant coach who was arrested in the FBI scandal effecting dozens of programs ... came to Oklahoma State from South Carolina. While at South Carolina he was the lead recruiter for PJ Dozier, a recruit Louisville was heavily recruiting. At the last minute, Dozier chooses South Carolina, kinda out of nowhere ... and Dozier is one of the starters that gets South Carolina to the Final Four.

A year ago ... the NCAA sent South Carolina a Notice of Allegations, specifically involving Lamont Evans and his recruiting of PJ Dozier. https://www.wistv.com/2020/02/14/south-c...ant-coach/


I am convinced that when Pitino lost out on PJ Dozier, he finally said F*** it .. get me adidas on the phone. I am now losing top 50 players to illegal recruiting ... if noone else is getting caught, I better start doing this too.

Frank Martin is as dirty as the day is long.

As much as I hate to defend South Carolina in anything his commitment wasn't "from out of nowhere". His father, uncle, and older sister all played basketball for South Carolina. PJ grew up in Columbia. PJ played high school ball for a South Carolina grad. He played AAU ball for a team that's always been a conduit to South Carolina. His girlfriend at the time was going to South Carolina. The fact that he was looking anywhere is is far more incredulous than the idea he went to South Carolina.


Yeah ... because South Carolina SCREAMS college basketball power house, and little ole Louisville with it's 10 Final Fours, and 3 national championships, Hall of Fame Coach Rick Pitino, Top 3 Basketball attendance for 3 decades and counting, could NEVER sway the attention of a top 50 kid from South Carolina ....


You gotta do better than that ... Cuz that's weak sauce.

LOL Whatever you say dude. I'm sure you know the ins and outs of South Carolina high school recruiting and AAU ball far better than someone who lives here.


Clemson never bothered to even attempt to recruit Dozier because it was widely known when he was in middle school where he was going to play college ball. North Carolina only made a cursory attempt to recruit him.

I reckon next you are going to tell me that Jake Venables was recruited illegally away from LSU by Clemson.


Fact of the matter is this: If Dozier didn't go to South Carolina he wasn't going to Louisville, he was going to Georgetown. Current Morgan State and at the time Georgetown head coach John Thompson III and assistant coach Kevin Broadus were family friends having played against Dozier's dad and uncle growing up in DC.
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