(12-31-2020 12:38 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  There is a complete lack of unity in CUSA. Programs here are not really developed as a unit. I believe there are several reasons for that, one being geography and another being leadership. This conference was completely assembled on the fly without any regard for what the end product would be. Its as if we all agreed to play as a conference until something better came along and then its "see ya!" Hat's off to the Sunbelt, MWC and MAC for creating a cohesive identity that folks on the outside can identify. I very much respect and appreciate every conference mate in CUSA and commend them for their contribution to the overall performance of the league. However, I think that there is going to be a time when we will need to split into two conferences in order to become viable. Old Dominion, Charlotte and Marshall have little to identify with Rice, North Texas or Tech. Its just not realistic to believe that we can succeed with such a lack of identity. Many of our top programs going into 2013-2014 have fallen off because their fanbases do not feel energized by who they play and its bleeding over into the programs that have been growing. We suck because we aren't a solidified product and that won't change anytime soon.

I often hear many fans say things like this, I dont understand how teams falling off gets blame placed on lack of interest in the opponent, versus lack of winning on the field. what team that is consistently winning has a fan base that is not energized?

(12-31-2020 03:53 PM)balanced_view Wrote:  

(12-31-2020 12:38 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  There is a complete lack of unity in CUSA. Programs here are not really developed as a unit. I believe there are several reasons for that, one being geography and another being leadership. This conference was completely assembled on the fly without any regard for what the end product would be. Its as if we all agreed to play as a conference until something better came along and then its "see ya!" Hat's off to the Sunbelt, MWC and MAC for creating a cohesive identity that folks on the outside can identify. I very much respect and appreciate every conference mate in CUSA and commend them for their contribution to the overall performance of the league. However, I think that there is going to be a time when we will need to split into two conferences in order to become viable. Old Dominion, Charlotte and Marshall have little to identify with Rice, North Texas or Tech. Its just not realistic to believe that we can succeed with such a lack of identity. Many of our top programs going into 2013-2014 have fallen off because their fanbases do not feel energized by who they play and its bleeding over into the programs that have been growing. We suck because we aren't a solidified product and that won't change anytime soon.

I often hear many fans say things like this, I dont understand how teams falling off gets blame placed on lack of interest in the opponent, versus lack of winning on the field. what team that is consistently winning has a fan base that is not energized?

Exactly.

(12-31-2020 03:54 PM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  

(12-31-2020 03:53 PM)balanced_view Wrote:  

(12-31-2020 12:38 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  There is a complete lack of unity in CUSA. Programs here are not really developed as a unit. I believe there are several reasons for that, one being geography and another being leadership. This conference was completely assembled on the fly without any regard for what the end product would be. Its as if we all agreed to play as a conference until something better came along and then its "see ya!" Hat's off to the Sunbelt, MWC and MAC for creating a cohesive identity that folks on the outside can identify. I very much respect and appreciate every conference mate in CUSA and commend them for their contribution to the overall performance of the league. However, I think that there is going to be a time when we will need to split into two conferences in order to become viable. Old Dominion, Charlotte and Marshall have little to identify with Rice, North Texas or Tech. Its just not realistic to believe that we can succeed with such a lack of identity. Many of our top programs going into 2013-2014 have fallen off because their fanbases do not feel energized by who they play and its bleeding over into the programs that have been growing. We suck because we aren't a solidified product and that won't change anytime soon.

I often hear many fans say things like this, I dont understand how teams falling off gets blame placed on lack of interest in the opponent, versus lack of winning on the field. what team that is consistently winning has a fan base that is not energized?

Exactly.

Yep

(12-31-2020 03:53 PM)balanced_view Wrote:  

(12-31-2020 12:38 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  There is a complete lack of unity in CUSA. Programs here are not really developed as a unit. I believe there are several reasons for that, one being geography and another being leadership. This conference was completely assembled on the fly without any regard for what the end product would be. Its as if we all agreed to play as a conference until something better came along and then its "see ya!" Hat's off to the Sunbelt, MWC and MAC for creating a cohesive identity that folks on the outside can identify. I very much respect and appreciate every conference mate in CUSA and commend them for their contribution to the overall performance of the league. However, I think that there is going to be a time when we will need to split into two conferences in order to become viable. Old Dominion, Charlotte and Marshall have little to identify with Rice, North Texas or Tech. Its just not realistic to believe that we can succeed with such a lack of identity. Many of our top programs going into 2013-2014 have fallen off because their fanbases do not feel energized by who they play and its bleeding over into the programs that have been growing. We suck because we aren't a solidified product and that won't change anytime soon.

I often hear many fans say things like this, I dont understand how teams falling off gets blame placed on lack of interest in the opponent, versus lack of winning on the field. what team that is consistently winning has a fan base that is not energized?

Winning games is one thing, but winning games against a brother or close friend's alma mater is something altogether much different.

(12-31-2020 11:45 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 10:20 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 12:30 AM)blazr Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 12:05 AM)Ourland Wrote:  In football, this conference has been particularly hurt in football by USM falling off the map. It has also been hurt by Louisiana Tech taking a step back competitively. Those are two schools that we typically depend on to carry the West banner.

I have to disagree with USM still hurting us today. There’s been enough time for USM to get their feet back under them and I think their own fans would agree that they are not back where they should be, but far from the 0-23, or whatever it was, days.


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From a pure W/L perspective, sure, but the talent we had on the 0-12 team would wipe the floor with what we’ve had the past few years. Here’s to hoping Hall can recruit some players to get us back where we need to be.

Oh, I don't know about that... You had very little talent in those 0-23 days.

You genuinely have no clue how much talent we had on that 0-12 team.

(01-01-2021 12:31 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(12-31-2020 11:45 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 10:20 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 12:30 AM)blazr Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 12:05 AM)Ourland Wrote:  In football, this conference has been particularly hurt in football by USM falling off the map. It has also been hurt by Louisiana Tech taking a step back competitively. Those are two schools that we typically depend on to carry the West banner.

I have to disagree with USM still hurting us today. There’s been enough time for USM to get their feet back under them and I think their own fans would agree that they are not back where they should be, but far from the 0-23, or whatever it was, days.


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From a pure W/L perspective, sure, but the talent we had on the 0-12 team would wipe the floor with what we’ve had the past few years. Here’s to hoping Hall can recruit some players to get us back where we need to be.

Oh, I don't know about that... You had very little talent in those 0-23 days.

You genuinely have no clue how much talent we had on that 0-12 team.

Lots of talent on that team. Were in several games. They didnt want to win for that loser of a coach. The 1-11 team Monken had was the worst team we ever had. Prob lost by avg of 30 pts. Conference has only gotten worse every year. CUSA has been terrible since the AAC was formed.

USM probably wont remain a piece of this $@#! show much longer.

(01-01-2021 12:31 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(12-31-2020 11:45 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 10:20 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 12:30 AM)blazr Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 12:05 AM)Ourland Wrote:  In football, this conference has been particularly hurt in football by USM falling off the map. It has also been hurt by Louisiana Tech taking a step back competitively. Those are two schools that we typically depend on to carry the West banner.

I have to disagree with USM still hurting us today. There’s been enough time for USM to get their feet back under them and I think their own fans would agree that they are not back where they should be, but far from the 0-23, or whatever it was, days.


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From a pure W/L perspective, sure, but the talent we had on the 0-12 team would wipe the floor with what we’ve had the past few years. Here’s to hoping Hall can recruit some players to get us back where we need to be.

Oh, I don't know about that... You had very little talent in those 0-23 days.

You genuinely have no clue how much talent we had on that 0-12 team.

I genuinely watched my 6-6 owls destroy you guys 41-7 (in your stadium) in 2013 and no one would suggest that we had a juggernaut then.

Where's Larry Fedora now?

(01-01-2021 03:48 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(01-01-2021 12:31 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(12-31-2020 11:45 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 10:20 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 12:30 AM)blazr Wrote:  I have to disagree with USM still hurting us today. There’s been enough time for USM to get their feet back under them and I think their own fans would agree that they are not back where they should be, but far from the 0-23, or whatever it was, days.


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From a pure W/L perspective, sure, but the talent we had on the 0-12 team would wipe the floor with what we’ve had the past few years. Here’s to hoping Hall can recruit some players to get us back where we need to be.

Oh, I don't know about that... You had very little talent in those 0-23 days.

You genuinely have no clue how much talent we had on that 0-12 team.

Lots of talent on that team. Were in several games. They didnt want to win for that loser of a coach. The 1-11 team Monken had was the worst team we ever had. Prob lost by avg of 30 pts. Conference has only gotten worse every year. CUSA has been terrible since the AAC was formed.

USM probably wont remain a piece of this $@#! show much longer.

Where are you going? Is there another conference begging for SMiss?

(01-02-2021 08:52 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(01-01-2021 03:48 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(01-01-2021 12:31 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(12-31-2020 11:45 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 10:20 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  From a pure W/L perspective, sure, but the talent we had on the 0-12 team would wipe the floor with what we’ve had the past few years. Here’s to hoping Hall can recruit some players to get us back where we need to be.

Oh, I don't know about that... You had very little talent in those 0-23 days.

You genuinely have no clue how much talent we had on that 0-12 team.

Lots of talent on that team. Were in several games. They didnt want to win for that loser of a coach. The 1-11 team Monken had was the worst team we ever had. Prob lost by avg of 30 pts. Conference has only gotten worse every year. CUSA has been terrible since the AAC was formed.

USM probably wont remain a piece of this $@#! show much longer.

Where are you going? Is there another conference begging for SMiss?

Yep! SMiss and Marshall would bring the hate like few others to the Sun Belt. Marshall without question. Southern Miss fits like a glove.

The problem as I see it is you folks need an identifiable culture. Branding if you will. Not that difficult. Marketz don't understand this. Their to wrapped up in the lure of big city leverage over the small town traditional U. They can wine and dine the recruit in the 5 star atmosphere while the small town U get's Uncle Shugs BBQ. Sure it works but nothing inspires an athlete to reach his or her potential more than less distraction and a fan base that has them first on the list of cewl things to do.

(01-02-2021 08:47 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 08:52 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(01-01-2021 03:48 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(01-01-2021 12:31 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(12-31-2020 11:45 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  Oh, I don't know about that... You had very little talent in those 0-23 days.

You genuinely have no clue how much talent we had on that 0-12 team.

Lots of talent on that team. Were in several games. They didnt want to win for that loser of a coach. The 1-11 team Monken had was the worst team we ever had. Prob lost by avg of 30 pts. Conference has only gotten worse every year. CUSA has been terrible since the AAC was formed.

USM probably wont remain a piece of this $@#! show much longer.

Where are you going? Is there another conference begging for SMiss?

Yep! SMiss and Marshall would bring the hate like few others to the Sun Belt. Marshall without question. Southern Miss fits like a glove.

The problem as I see it is you folks need an identifiable culture. Branding if you will. Not that difficult. Marketz don't understand this. Their to wrapped up in the lure of big city leverage over the small town traditional U. They can wine and dine the recruit in the 5 star atmosphere while the small town U get's Uncle Shugs BBQ. Sure it works but nothing inspires an athlete to reach his or her potential more than less distraction and a fan base that has them first on the list of cewl things to do.

Good Lord, English please.

(01-02-2021 10:41 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 08:47 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 08:52 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(01-01-2021 03:48 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(01-01-2021 12:31 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  You genuinely have no clue how much talent we had on that 0-12 team.

Lots of talent on that team. Were in several games. They didnt want to win for that loser of a coach. The 1-11 team Monken had was the worst team we ever had. Prob lost by avg of 30 pts. Conference has only gotten worse every year. CUSA has been terrible since the AAC was formed.

USM probably wont remain a piece of this $@#! show much longer.

Where are you going? Is there another conference begging for SMiss?

Yep! SMiss and Marshall would bring the hate like few others to the Sun Belt. Marshall without question. Southern Miss fits like a glove.

The problem as I see it is you folks need an identifiable culture. Branding if you will. Not that difficult. Marketz don't understand this. Their to wrapped up in the lure of big city leverage over the small town traditional U. They can wine and dine the recruit in the 5 star atmosphere while the small town U get's Uncle Shugs BBQ. Sure it works but nothing inspires an athlete to reach his or her potential more than less distraction and a fan base that has them first on the list of cewl things to do.

Good Lord, English please.

Just bumping a thread that I've enjoyed. It's tough when the institutions are so vastly different. My pointing to those differences gives me great happiness. Thank you for allowing me to share.

(01-02-2021 10:41 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 08:47 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 08:52 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(01-01-2021 03:48 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(01-01-2021 12:31 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  You genuinely have no clue how much talent we had on that 0-12 team.

Lots of talent on that team. Were in several games. They didnt want to win for that loser of a coach. The 1-11 team Monken had was the worst team we ever had. Prob lost by avg of 30 pts. Conference has only gotten worse every year. CUSA has been terrible since the AAC was formed.

USM probably wont remain a piece of this $@#! show much longer.

Where are you going? Is there another conference begging for SMiss?

Yep! SMiss and Marshall would bring the hate like few others to the Sun Belt. Marshall without question. Southern Miss fits like a glove.

The problem as I see it is you folks need an identifiable culture. Branding if you will. Not that difficult. Marketz don't understand this. Their to wrapped up in the lure of big city leverage over the small town traditional U. They can wine and dine the recruit in the 5 star atmosphere while the small town U get's Uncle Shugs BBQ. Sure it works but nothing inspires an athlete to reach his or her potential more than less distraction and a fan base that has them first on the list of cewl things to do.

Good Lord, English please.

Everything he said makes perfect sense. Nothing confusing about it.

(01-02-2021 11:36 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 10:41 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 08:47 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 08:52 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(01-01-2021 03:48 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  Lots of talent on that team. Were in several games. They didnt want to win for that loser of a coach. The 1-11 team Monken had was the worst team we ever had. Prob lost by avg of 30 pts. Conference has only gotten worse every year. CUSA has been terrible since the AAC was formed.

USM probably wont remain a piece of this $@#! show much longer.

Where are you going? Is there another conference begging for SMiss?

Yep! SMiss and Marshall would bring the hate like few others to the Sun Belt. Marshall without question. Southern Miss fits like a glove.

The problem as I see it is you folks need an identifiable culture. Branding if you will. Not that difficult. Marketz don't understand this. Their to wrapped up in the lure of big city leverage over the small town traditional U. They can wine and dine the recruit in the 5 star atmosphere while the small town U get's Uncle Shugs BBQ. Sure it works but nothing inspires an athlete to reach his or her potential more than less distraction and a fan base that has them first on the list of cewl things to do.

Good Lord, English please.

Everything he said makes perfect sense. Nothing confusing about it.

For shoo. Markez badz. Sunbelsh cewl.

Ill never understand the purpose misspelling of words.

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“It is a damn poor mind indeed which can't think of at least two ways to spell any word.”

(01-02-2021 11:36 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 10:41 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 08:47 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 08:52 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(01-01-2021 03:48 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  Lots of talent on that team. Were in several games. They didnt want to win for that loser of a coach. The 1-11 team Monken had was the worst team we ever had. Prob lost by avg of 30 pts. Conference has only gotten worse every year. CUSA has been terrible since the AAC was formed.

USM probably wont remain a piece of this $@#! show much longer.

Where are you going? Is there another conference begging for SMiss?

Yep! SMiss and Marshall would bring the hate like few others to the Sun Belt. Marshall without question. Southern Miss fits like a glove.

The problem as I see it is you folks need an identifiable culture. Branding if you will. Not that difficult. Marketz don't understand this. Their to wrapped up in the lure of big city leverage over the small town traditional U. They can wine and dine the recruit in the 5 star atmosphere while the small town U get's Uncle Shugs BBQ. Sure it works but nothing inspires an athlete to reach his or her potential more than less distraction and a fan base that has them first on the list of cewl things to do.

Good Lord, English please.

Everything he said makes perfect sense. Nothing confusing about it.

Agreed.

(01-03-2021 07:24 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 11:36 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 10:41 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 08:47 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 08:52 AM)Dusky Wrote:  Where are you going? Is there another conference begging for SMiss?

Yep! SMiss and Marshall would bring the hate like few others to the Sun Belt. Marshall without question. Southern Miss fits like a glove.

The problem as I see it is you folks need an identifiable culture. Branding if you will. Not that difficult. Marketz don't understand this. Their to wrapped up in the lure of big city leverage over the small town traditional U. They can wine and dine the recruit in the 5 star atmosphere while the small town U get's Uncle Shugs BBQ. Sure it works but nothing inspires an athlete to reach his or her potential more than less distraction and a fan base that has them first on the list of cewl things to do.

Good Lord, English please.

Everything he said makes perfect sense. Nothing confusing about it.

Agreed.

Of course you do. Bowl season is over with. No need to keep coming over here and sharing your horrible opinion.

(01-03-2021 07:24 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 11:36 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 10:41 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 08:47 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 08:52 AM)Dusky Wrote:  Where are you going? Is there another conference begging for SMiss?

Yep! SMiss and Marshall would bring the hate like few others to the Sun Belt. Marshall without question. Southern Miss fits like a glove.

The problem as I see it is you folks need an identifiable culture. Branding if you will. Not that difficult. Marketz don't understand this. Their to wrapped up in the lure of big city leverage over the small town traditional U. They can wine and dine the recruit in the 5 star atmosphere while the small town U get's Uncle Shugs BBQ. Sure it works but nothing inspires an athlete to reach his or her potential more than less distraction and a fan base that has them first on the list of cewl things to do.

Good Lord, English please.

Everything he said makes perfect sense. Nothing confusing about it.

Agreed.

Agreed? LOL! Onyl if yo arrr into jibbrish.....

(01-02-2021 08:47 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(01-02-2021 08:52 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(01-01-2021 03:48 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(01-01-2021 12:31 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(12-31-2020 11:45 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  Oh, I don't know about that... You had very little talent in those 0-23 days.

You genuinely have no clue how much talent we had on that 0-12 team.

Lots of talent on that team. Were in several games. They didnt want to win for that loser of a coach. The 1-11 team Monken had was the worst team we ever had. Prob lost by avg of 30 pts. Conference has only gotten worse every year. CUSA has been terrible since the AAC was formed.

USM probably wont remain a piece of this $@#! show much longer.

Where are you going? Is there another conference begging for SMiss?

Yep! SMiss and Marshall would bring the hate like few others to the Sun Belt. Marshall without question. Southern Miss fits like a glove.

The problem as I see it is you folks need an identifiable culture. Branding if you will. Not that difficult. Marketz don't understand this. Their to wrapped up in the lure of big city leverage over the small town traditional U. They can wine and dine the recruit in the 5 star atmosphere while the small town U get's Uncle Shugs BBQ. Sure it works but nothing inspires an athlete to reach his or her potential more than less distraction and a fan base that has them first on the list of cewl things to do.

So, you suggest dividing teams into conferences by the size of their home cities?

Color me confused...