(12-22-2020 11:35 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-22-2020 10:06 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-22-2020 08:09 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-22-2020 08:05 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(12-22-2020 08:03 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  https://apnews.com/article/college-footb...5146d51f81

AP source: Auburn finalizing deal with Boise State’s Harsin

Downward trend. No AD. No HC. Money problems. Pres. never hired sports person before.

BSU is burnt toast. Bury them.

They still win more than Houston


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lol...just for prospective, during Harsin's 7 year tenure at Boise, we have had 4 different coaches. There is something to be said for a little program stability. As for all this talk of them down trending--I mean---its hard to go undefeated every year. They still played in the last 4 Mountain West championship games (2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020)---winning two out of 4 times. Not bad for "down trending". I mean seriously---people on here have been talking about us having to add someone like Georgia St, Marshall, or UAB. Boise is a grand slam home run compared to options of that caliber.

We aren't taking any of those teams you just mentioned. No one has seriously suggested that and Aresco is on record as saying they would make unbalanced divisions work if they had to, which they won't since it is likely the divisions rule will be amended to some sort of mandatory round robin, minimum number of conference games.

You also left out the part where they have had more money and more exposure for seven straight years to get to four straight championship games, which also means they didn't go to the championship at some point, which means they didn't even win their division, which has been the weaker of the two.

As for their slide, I did the numbers the other day they have averaged two more losses a season and their average ranking has dropped like eight points. I think it's in the other thread about Boise crying and trying to leave.

The point is there are maybe 4 G4/Indy teams that might add value to the conference. One of those 4 is currently interested---the others may very well never be. Half of success is recognizing opportunity and acting decisively when it matters.

Did you look at Jed making the case for me? Look at their recent records.

Go back and look at their rankings.

You are fond of saying you increase the value of a conference by adding teams that look more.like the top of it. You are also correct. Boise needs.Cali recruits.and has clearly suffered from being in the Mountain division, with games in Cali. How bad will it be with all their games east of the rockies?

What value does a 6-8 win Boise add? A team that hasn't even won their division every year much less their conference? One that has the advantages they have?

But Boise will threaten our NY6, not when they don't win the championship they won't which is almost half the time now in a weaker league.

Add no one over Boise. Add SDSU with its potential over Boise. It's just not worth it and it will only get worse the further they get from the BCS era.

(12-22-2020 11:17 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(12-22-2020 10:06 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-22-2020 08:09 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-22-2020 08:05 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(12-22-2020 08:03 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  https://apnews.com/article/college-footb...5146d51f81

AP source: Auburn finalizing deal with Boise State’s Harsin

Downward trend. No AD. No HC. Money problems. Pres. never hired sports person before.

BSU is burnt toast. Bury them.

They still win more than Houston


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lol...just for prospective, during Harsin's 7 year tenure at Boise, we have had 4 different coaches. There is something to be said for a little program stability. As for all this talk of them down trending--I mean---its hard to go undefeated every year. They still played in the last 4 Mountain West championship games (2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020)---winning two out of 4 times. Not bad for "down trending". I mean seriously---people on here have been talking about us having to add someone like Georgia St, Marshall, or UAB. Boise is a grand slam home run compared to options of that caliber.

We aren't taking any of those teams you just mentioned. No one has seriously suggested that and Aresco is on record as saying they would make unbalanced divisions work if they had to, which they won't since it is likely the divisions rule will be amended to some sort of mandatory round robin, minimum number of conference games.

You also left out the part where they have had more money and more exposure for seven straight years to get to four straight championship games, which also means they didn't go to the championship at some point, which means they didn't even win their division, which has been the weaker of the two.

As for their slide, I did the numbers the other day they have averaged two more losses a season and their average ranking has dropped like eight points. I think it's in the other thread about Boise crying and trying to leave.

Let's keep it real, ok?

For one thing, the 2020 asterisk* season has been atypical.

For another, Boise St. has won 10+ games the past 4 years in a row.

Further, they have won 75%+ of their games in 15 of the last 18 seasons.

How many other teams (P5 or non-P5) have maintained a better record than that?

2 2019 12 2 0 .857
3 2018 10 3 0 .769
4 2017 11 3 0 .786
5 2016 10 3 0 .769
6 2015 9 4 0 .692
7 2014 12 2 0 .857
8 2013 8 5 0 .615
9 2012 11 2 0 .846
10 2011 12 1 0 .923
11 2010 12 1 0 .923
12 2009 14 0 0 1.000
13 2008 12 1 0 .923
14 2007 10 3 0 .769
15 2006 13 0 0 1.000
16 2005 9 4 0 .692
17 2004 11 1 0 .917
18 2003 13 1 0 .929
19 2002 12 1 0 .923

Red is MW record with extra money and extra exposure, sweet heart deal.

Red seasons with more than two losses: 5/7
Black seasons with more than two losses: 2/11

Red undefeated seasons: 0
Red one loss seasons: 0
Black undefeated seasons: 2
Black one loss seasons: 6

(12-23-2020 12:22 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-22-2020 11:35 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-22-2020 10:06 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-22-2020 08:09 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-22-2020 08:05 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  They still win more than Houston


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lol...just for prospective, during Harsin's 7 year tenure at Boise, we have had 4 different coaches. There is something to be said for a little program stability. As for all this talk of them down trending--I mean---its hard to go undefeated every year. They still played in the last 4 Mountain West championship games (2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020)---winning two out of 4 times. Not bad for "down trending". I mean seriously---people on here have been talking about us having to add someone like Georgia St, Marshall, or UAB. Boise is a grand slam home run compared to options of that caliber.

We aren't taking any of those teams you just mentioned. No one has seriously suggested that and Aresco is on record as saying they would make unbalanced divisions work if they had to, which they won't since it is likely the divisions rule will be amended to some sort of mandatory round robin, minimum number of conference games.

You also left out the part where they have had more money and more exposure for seven straight years to get to four straight championship games, which also means they didn't go to the championship at some point, which means they didn't even win their division, which has been the weaker of the two.

As for their slide, I did the numbers the other day they have averaged two more losses a season and their average ranking has dropped like eight points. I think it's in the other thread about Boise crying and trying to leave.

The point is there are maybe 4 G4/Indy teams that might add value to the conference. One of those 4 is currently interested---the others may very well never be. Half of success is recognizing opportunity and acting decisively when it matters.

Did you look at Jed making the case for me? Look at their recent records.

Go back and look at their rankings.

You are fond of saying you increase the value of a conference by adding teams that look more.like the top of it. You are also correct. Boise needs.Cali recruits.and has clearly suffered from being in the Mountain division, with games in Cali. How bad will it be with all their games east of the rockies?

What value does a 6-8 win Boise add? A team that hasn't even won their division every year much less their conference? One that has the advantages they have?

But Boise will threaten our NY6, not when they don't win the championship they won't which is almost half the time now in a weaker league.

Add no one over Boise. Add SDSU with its potential over Boise. It's just not worth it and it will only get worse the further they get from the BCS era.

lol---I feel like you've worked yourself into a babbling frenzy over this. I have no idea what kind of criteria your trying to apply to screen UConn replacement candidates. They "didnt even win their division every year"---Seriously? Thats your big objection? Here is what your concerned about adding to the conference.

2011 12-1 (no divisions, second place)
2012 11-2 Conference co-champ-no divisions
2013 8-5
2014 12-2 Div champ/Conf champ
2015 9-4
2016 10-3 Div co-champ
2017 11-3 Div Champ/Conf champ
2018 10-3 Div champ
2019 12-2 Div champ/Conf champ
2020 5-2 Lost CCG (top 2 played/no divisions)

Thats 10 years---4 conference championships, 6 CCG appearances, and one second place finish before they had a CCG. Played in the last 4 CCG's and lost the tie breaker to play in the one before that (2016). I'm sorry dude---but that's the resume of a solid top 25% of the conference team.. Better yet---Boise is top 1% in terms of consistency. If Boise wants to be UConn's replacement---then thats a home run swap all day long for the AAC. If your concerned about the extra money Boise was getting affecting their win total stats---dont be. They got that extra money because had already been winning their butts off for a decade before that. Boise will be fine. They will win less in the AAC because the competition is tougher---but they will be a solid top 25% of the league program. They have exactly the kind of highly recognized brand name we want in this conference.

(12-22-2020 06:34 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-22-2020 06:14 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(12-21-2020 10:50 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-21-2020 10:11 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(12-21-2020 08:35 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  Nah, launch ECU into the sun, as most want to do. They bring zero to the conference.

Still mad about being left behind, gotcha.

Do anything, win something, your crap program has been a complete burden on the rest of the conference. You add zero to the two revenue generating sports. It’s embarrassing.

East Carolina MBB: (7-1, 1-1 American)
Cincinnati MBB: (2-5, 0-2 American)

Wow, great. As long as we are going to do this, let's do this.
ECU football since joining the American. 27-55
ECU basketball since joining the American. 79-120.

The only reason I responded was ButtPirate took a shot as always. Just pointing out the facts. But sure, let the farce go on.

Damn kid, got all up in your bonnet didn't I? Look Cindy is amongst it's peers which includes ECU, except that and move on. Your football is good this year but your basketball is sucking hind tit.

(12-23-2020 12:22 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  But Boise will threaten our NY6, not when they don't win the championship they won't which is almost half the time now in a weaker league.

That's the real kicker for me in terms of not wanting to see Boise added - they just aren't the NY6 threat they were five years ago, and I don't see any reason to believe they will be going forward. Could be wrong, but my sense is that the Boise program just slips each year. Not a lot, hell they have averaged 11 wins a season the last four! Wish USF would do that.

But that's the thing - even posting records like 11-3 and 12-2, they haven't been that serious a threat for the NY6 bid. For me the big tell was 2019, when both Memphis and Boise both had one loss and yet Memphis easily claimed the NY6 bid. It's gotten to where the AAC champ has to have more losses than Boise for Boise to get it, and Boise doesn't even win their conference but half the time these days.

So IMO, Boise just doesn't bring that much to the table, but they will bring long travel and political headaches. They are a prima donna program.

Will it bother me if they are added? No. Will they likely be one of the best AAC teams? Yes. Will it make the AAC even more ahead of the MW in the computer rankings? Sure. But on balance, why bother with them?

(12-23-2020 08:50 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 12:22 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  But Boise will threaten our NY6, not when they don't win the championship they won't which is almost half the time now in a weaker league.

That's the real kicker for me in terms of not wanting to see Boise added - they just aren't the NY6 threat they were five years ago, and I don't see any reason to believe they will be going forward. Could be wrong, but my sense is that the Boise program just slips each year. Not a lot, hell they have averaged 11 wins a season the last four! Wish USF would do that.

But that's the thing - even posting records like 11-3 and 12-2, they haven't been that serious a threat for the NY6 bid. For me the big tell was 2019, when both Memphis and Boise both had one loss and yet Memphis easily claimed the NY6 bid. It's gotten to where the AAC champ has to have more losses than Boise for Boise to get it, and Boise doesn't even win their conference but half the time these days.

So IMO, Boise just doesn't bring that much to the table, but they will bring long travel and political headaches. They are a prima donna program.

Will it bother me if they are added? No. Will they likely be one of the best AAC teams? Yes. Will it make the AAC even more ahead of the MW in the computer rankings? Sure. But on balance, why bother with them?

This. If Boise was riding high, they'd wouldn't be looking for a jump, they'd just rule the MWC with an iron fist.

(12-23-2020 08:57 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 08:50 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 12:22 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  But Boise will threaten our NY6, not when they don't win the championship they won't which is almost half the time now in a weaker league.

That's the real kicker for me in terms of not wanting to see Boise added - they just aren't the NY6 threat they were five years ago, and I don't see any reason to believe they will be going forward. Could be wrong, but my sense is that the Boise program just slips each year. Not a lot, hell they have averaged 11 wins a season the last four! Wish USF would do that.

But that's the thing - even posting records like 11-3 and 12-2, they haven't been that serious a threat for the NY6 bid. For me the big tell was 2019, when both Memphis and Boise both had one loss and yet Memphis easily claimed the NY6 bid. It's gotten to where the AAC champ has to have more losses than Boise for Boise to get it, and Boise doesn't even win their conference but half the time these days.

So IMO, Boise just doesn't bring that much to the table, but they will bring long travel and political headaches. They are a prima donna program.

Will it bother me if they are added? No. Will they likely be one of the best AAC teams? Yes. Will it make the AAC even more ahead of the MW in the computer rankings? Sure. But on balance, why bother with them?

This. If Boise was riding high, they'd wouldn't be looking for a jump, they'd just rule the MWC with an iron fist.

Yes, and also, look at how the MWC is behaving - if Boise was really worth it to them, carrying the national load that is expected in order to 'earn' their sweetheart deal, the MWC would be bowing and scraping to them. Instead, we see that the MWC has impudently tried to end Boise's sweetheart deal! Boise had to go to court to get their deal implemented, because the MW board voted to end their bonus payments.

That's a clear signal that the MW doesn't think Boise is "worth it" anymore, at least in terms of extra money. They no longer think the 2012 deal they signed to get Boise back has paid off - because looking at the record, it hasn't.

Lots of reasonable and fair objections on the board and related to adding Boise. Adding BSU might be a mistake if it were to happen.

But I'll go on record as noting I would like to see the AAC add three programs from the West, with Boise one. Ideally, San Diego State and BYU would be the other two.

I'm with Jed to a certain extent about this topic. The AAC could benefit from an expansion.

(12-23-2020 08:50 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 12:22 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  But Boise will threaten our NY6, not when they don't win the championship they won't which is almost half the time now in a weaker league.

That's the real kicker for me in terms of not wanting to see Boise added - they just aren't the NY6 threat they were five years ago, and I don't see any reason to believe they will be going forward. Could be wrong, but my sense is that the Boise program just slips each year. Not a lot, hell they have averaged 11 wins a season the last four! Wish USF would do that.

But that's the thing - even posting records like 11-3 and 12-2, they haven't been that serious a threat for the NY6 bid. For me the big tell was 2019, when both Memphis and Boise both had one loss and yet Memphis easily claimed the NY6 bid. It's gotten to where the AAC champ has to have more losses than Boise for Boise to get it, and Boise doesn't even win their conference but half the time these days.

So IMO, Boise just doesn't bring that much to the table, but they will bring long travel and political headaches. They are a prima donna program.

Will it bother me if they are added? No. Will they likely be one of the best AAC teams? Yes. Will it make the AAC even more ahead of the MW in the computer rankings? Sure. But on balance, why bother with them?

Thats really all that matters. Our geography has been a joke from the get go---and frankly---every member but Tulsa joined a conference fully expecting to share it with Boise, SDSU and at least one or two other western schools.

Look---at some point, we are going to have to fill that 12th slot. Boise is about as good a option for #12 as we are going to get. Sure--they are far---but quality matters. Its Boise---or something closer like Georgia St, Marshall, ODU, UAB, AppSt, etc......when one looks at the sad state of the alternative options that are within the AAC footprint----adding Boise is a no brainer.

When travel distance is cited as a reason against adding Boise, is cost really that much of a factor if you're already flying anyway? Also, I would think typical travel time might add an hour.
Serious questions, does anyone here know?

(12-23-2020 11:36 AM)mikeinoki Wrote:  When travel distance is cited as a reason against adding Boise, is cost really that much of a factor if you're already flying anyway? Also, I would think typical travel time might add an hour.
Serious questions, does anyone here know?

As far as football-only is concerned, you are correct. Especially for the schools in the East division who would only be going out there once every 4 years. Replacing a flight to Dallas or Houston with a flight to Boise or San Diego is not really that big a deal. The main schools picking up travel costs would be the outliers, and even then, I doubt these schools bus to any of their MWC foes anyway. Well, maybe SDSU to UNLV.

If you look at a basketball arrangement, if you schedule by the football divisions (with Wichita sliding in for Navy), even if you don't use divisions in the standings, the East division schools would only have to travel to Boise every other year.

The conference chose the name "American" because it's not limited in scope geographically, so we might as well be the first true American conference... if the $ add up.

BYU fan here.

Haven't heard any rumors or news from BYU, that BYU is at all interested. BYU likes being in the WCC, and just signed a new TV deal with ESPN for Independent football. Maybe BYU would be interested in 6 years or so?

Regarding finding a home for Boise, they are in a huge conundrum, because the only conference that would take their other sports is the WAC. The only MWC schools that might be interested in joining with Boise are New Mexico and Colorado State, IMO

(12-23-2020 11:52 AM)MWCRobert Wrote:  BYU fan here.

Haven't heard any rumors or news from BYU, that BYU is at all interested. BYU likes being in the WCC, and just signed a new TV deal with ESPN for Independent football. Maybe BYU would be interested in 6 years or so?

Regarding finding a home for Boise, they are in a huge conundrum, because the only conference that would take their other sports is the WAC. The only MWC schools that might be interested in joining with Boise are New Mexico and Colorado State, IMO

BYU probably does not want to come, but perhaps after a great season like they just had leading to nothing but a Boca Raton bowl berth would have them thinking otherwise?

I'm fairly certain SDSU would still be interested, especially if Boise were leaving the MWC.

And if SDSU were to come, I think we make it an all-sports offer. Why take SDSU and not take their very good basketball program? If the American can get Boise, San Diego State and New Mexico, with ECU and Tulane finally looking to be decent teams on the court, the basketball side of things would be insane good.

IMO this really comes down to whether the conference can make the travel $$ work.

(12-23-2020 11:36 AM)mikeinoki Wrote:  When travel distance is cited as a reason against adding Boise, is cost really that much of a factor if you're already flying anyway? Also, I would think typical travel time might add an hour.
Serious questions, does anyone here know?

There was a study done within the last 10 years or so on the affect of travel on college athletes.* Bottom line, distance has a negative effect. The American is stretched as it is, doubling the geographic area compounds that.

*I will try to track down a link.

(12-23-2020 12:03 PM)vick mike Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 11:36 AM)mikeinoki Wrote:  When travel distance is cited as a reason against adding Boise, is cost really that much of a factor if you're already flying anyway? Also, I would think typical travel time might add an hour.
Serious questions, does anyone here know?

There was a study done within the last 10 years or so on the affect of travel on college athletes.* Bottom line, distance has a negative effect. The American is stretched as it is, doubling the geographic area compounds that.

*I will try to track down a link.

There is no doubt that is true. But with a "football only" invite---Boise is looking at 4 games on the road---2 to 3 of which would be in their division--thus being little farther than they already travel anyway as a member of the spread out MW. For the existing teams of the AAC---we are talking about a total of 4 traveling to Boise road games a year---spread over the 11 existing teams---most heavily wieighted to the teams closest to Boise (who would be in Boise's division).

So---for a "football only" invite---the travel involved in a Boise membership is just not that big a deal.

(12-23-2020 12:19 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 12:03 PM)vick mike Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 11:36 AM)mikeinoki Wrote:  When travel distance is cited as a reason against adding Boise, is cost really that much of a factor if you're already flying anyway? Also, I would think typical travel time might add an hour.
Serious questions, does anyone here know?

There was a study done within the last 10 years or so on the affect of travel on college athletes.* Bottom line, distance has a negative effect. The American is stretched as it is, doubling the geographic area compounds that.

*I will try to track down a link.

There is no doubt that is true. But with a "football only" invite---Boise is looking at 4 games on the road---2 to 3 of which would be in their division--thus being little farther than they already travel anyway as a member of the spread out MW. For the existing teams of the AAC---we are talking about a total of 4 traveling to Boise road games a year---spread over the 11 existing teams---most heavily wieighted to the teams closest to Boise (who would be in Boise's division).

So---for a "football only" invite---the travel involved in a Boise membership is just not that big a deal.

See also the list of AAC football teams that have already signed up to make the regular-season road trip to Boise:

UCF
USF
Cincinnati
ECU
Houston

That's 4 of the 5 remaining AAC East teams.

(12-23-2020 12:03 PM)vick mike Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 11:36 AM)mikeinoki Wrote:  When travel distance is cited as a reason against adding Boise, is cost really that much of a factor if you're already flying anyway? Also, I would think typical travel time might add an hour.
Serious questions, does anyone here know?

There was a study done within the last 10 years or so on the affect of travel on college athletes.* Bottom line, distance has a negative effect. The American is stretched as it is, doubling the geographic area compounds that.

*I will try to track down a link.

I agree it is too difficult on athletes because of the time zones and the travel.

Football can work. But for all other sports, schools need a regional conference.

Unless Boise accepts having to join the WAC (not a very good conference), then I don't see them joining the AAC for football.

(12-23-2020 12:53 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 12:22 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-22-2020 11:35 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-22-2020 10:06 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-22-2020 08:09 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  lol...just for prospective, during Harsin's 7 year tenure at Boise, we have had 4 different coaches. There is something to be said for a little program stability. As for all this talk of them down trending--I mean---its hard to go undefeated every year. They still played in the last 4 Mountain West championship games (2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020)---winning two out of 4 times. Not bad for "down trending". I mean seriously---people on here have been talking about us having to add someone like Georgia St, Marshall, or UAB. Boise is a grand slam home run compared to options of that caliber.

We aren't taking any of those teams you just mentioned. No one has seriously suggested that and Aresco is on record as saying they would make unbalanced divisions work if they had to, which they won't since it is likely the divisions rule will be amended to some sort of mandatory round robin, minimum number of conference games.

You also left out the part where they have had more money and more exposure for seven straight years to get to four straight championship games, which also means they didn't go to the championship at some point, which means they didn't even win their division, which has been the weaker of the two.

As for their slide, I did the numbers the other day they have averaged two more losses a season and their average ranking has dropped like eight points. I think it's in the other thread about Boise crying and trying to leave.

The point is there are maybe 4 G4/Indy teams that might add value to the conference. One of those 4 is currently interested---the others may very well never be. Half of success is recognizing opportunity and acting decisively when it matters.

Did you look at Jed making the case for me? Look at their recent records.

Go back and look at their rankings.

You are fond of saying you increase the value of a conference by adding teams that look more.like the top of it. You are also correct. Boise needs.Cali recruits.and has clearly suffered from being in the Mountain division, with games in Cali. How bad will it be with all their games east of the rockies?

What value does a 6-8 win Boise add? A team that hasn't even won their division every year much less their conference? One that has the advantages they have?

But Boise will threaten our NY6, not when they don't win the championship they won't which is almost half the time now in a weaker league.

Add no one over Boise. Add SDSU with its potential over Boise. It's just not worth it and it will only get worse the further they get from the BCS era.

lol---I feel like you've worked yourself into a babbling frenzy over this. I have no idea what kind of criteria your trying to apply to screen UConn replacement candidates. They "didnt even win their division every year"---Seriously? Thats your big objection? Here is what your concerned about adding to the conference.

2011 12-1 (no divisions, second place)
2012 11-2 Conference co-champ-no divisions


2013 8-5
2014 12-2 Div champ/Conf champ
2015 9-4
2016 10-3 Div co-champ
2017 11-3 Div Champ/Conf champ
2018 10-3 Div champ
2019 12-2 Div champ/Conf champ
2020 5-2 Lost CCG (top 2 played/no divisions)

Thats 10 years---4 conference championships, 6 CCG appearances, and one second place finish before they had a CCG. Played in the last 4 CCG's and lost the tie breaker to play in the one before that (2016). I'm sorry dude---but that's the resume of a solid top 25% of the conference team.. Better yet---Boise is top 1% in terms of consistency. If Boise wants to be UConn's replacement---then thats a home run swap all day long for the AAC. If your concerned about the extra money Boise was getting affecting their win total stats---dont be. They got that extra money because had already been winning their butts off for a decade before that. Boise will be fine. They will win less in the AAC because the competition is tougher---but they will be a solid top 25% of the league program. They have exactly the kind of highly recognized brand name we want in this conference.

You and Jed keep proving my point which really seems to bother you both.

The red is what counts, that's them competing with the AAC as a MW team with the sweetheart set up.

Championship game appearences: 5/7
Championships: 3/7

So they haven't appeared 28% of the time and have only won the championship 42% of the time, meaning that more than half the time with a sweetheart deal they can't even threaten the NY6 invite regardless of what any AAC teams is doing.

Average record for those years (excluding this year): 10-3


Edit: since Boise last went to a NY6 the AAC has had 20+ weeks in which it had two players ranked ahead of Boise, who hasn't finished ranked several times. While multiple AAC teams have finished ranked (Navy, Temple, Tulsa, Cincy, Memphis, UCF) and several have finished ranked multiple times. Houston has also been ranked on the CFP including in front of Boise during that same time frame.