(12-20-2020 09:51 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 07:39 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

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(12-19-2020 02:46 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:20 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I would love to be wrong, but I’m not looking through teal shaded glasses on this. I’m looking at the entirety of the young man’s college career in addition to what we’ve seen so far. It’s not logical to even contemplate us counting on him at this point.


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The point isn't that we should count on Steere. You're criticizing Siddle's roster composition in his first season and I'm pointing out that he has gone after the profile that he needs to be successful. If, after multiple years, he's still counting on kids that are 6'7, 190 to defend centers then we have a problem. It's not something I'm concerned with at this point.

Okay, yeah. Makes sense. I can agree with that. I think part of the impatience on my end (and unfair to Siddle if I’m honest) is that he was Keatts’ guy and there’s that hope tied to too much expectation to be good immediately. The guys are off to a great start though, and I do hope Steere comes through and that we do go after more stable bigs going forward.


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Steere or not, I think we can compete at the top of the CAA this year. This team is loaded with scorers who can shoot the three ball, and our press can help limit the other teams offense.

But, more importantly, we look good past this year.

Phillips, Harvey, Pridgen, Boggs, Sims, Carr, Steere will all be here next year.

Phillips, Harvey Pridgen, Boggs, Carr, Steere the year after that.

That's a pretty solid core for the next two years.

I noticed one glaring omission. I’m not sure if it’s by accident or if you expect him to leave... Dodd.

Also, that’s a big assumption that none of them leave the program. I think it’s safe to say the three I consider locks to not leave are Harvey, Pridgeon (both Siddle guys) and Boggs. Boggs seems to play very well under Siddle so far and gets good minutes. We haven’t seen Phillips yet under Siddle so I just don’t know enough to say he’s a lock to stay put. Carr is a Siddle guy but has been non-existent on this team so far. Steere... do I really need to go there AGAIN? I’d rather not.


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Dodd was an accident, although I don't see him staying. I think the rest will stay, although there must be a reason Siddle went after another PG. Regardless, I think the players I mentioned will all stay. Phillips should be fantastic in a Siddle system, so no reason for him to go. This team is literally waiting for his return. He's that important.

(12-20-2020 09:57 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 09:51 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 07:39 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 04:38 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 02:46 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  The point isn't that we should count on Steere. You're criticizing Siddle's roster composition in his first season and I'm pointing out that he has gone after the profile that he needs to be successful. If, after multiple years, he's still counting on kids that are 6'7, 190 to defend centers then we have a problem. It's not something I'm concerned with at this point.

Okay, yeah. Makes sense. I can agree with that. I think part of the impatience on my end (and unfair to Siddle if I’m honest) is that he was Keatts’ guy and there’s that hope tied to too much expectation to be good immediately. The guys are off to a great start though, and I do hope Steere comes through and that we do go after more stable bigs going forward.


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Steere or not, I think we can compete at the top of the CAA this year. This team is loaded with scorers who can shoot the three ball, and our press can help limit the other teams offense.

But, more importantly, we look good past this year.

Phillips, Harvey, Pridgen, Boggs, Sims, Carr, Steere will all be here next year.

Phillips, Harvey Pridgen, Boggs, Carr, Steere the year after that.

That's a pretty solid core for the next two years.

I noticed one glaring omission. I’m not sure if it’s by accident or if you expect him to leave... Dodd.

Also, that’s a big assumption that none of them leave the program. I think it’s safe to say the three I consider locks to not leave are Harvey, Pridgeon (both Siddle guys) and Boggs. Boggs seems to play very well under Siddle so far and gets good minutes. We haven’t seen Phillips yet under Siddle so I just don’t know enough to say he’s a lock to stay put. Carr is a Siddle guy but has been non-existent on this team so far. Steere... do I really need to go there AGAIN? I’d rather not.


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Dodd was an accident, although I don't see him staying. I think the rest will stay, although there must be a reason Siddle went after another PG. Regardless, I think the players I mentioned will all stay. Phillips should be fantastic in a Siddle system, so no reason for him to go. This team is literally waiting for his return. He's that important.

I agree with the portions about Dodd and Shykeim, but still don’t consider him a lock. Likely yes, lock no.


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I was right there on the floor, under the basket, watching Dodd last year. I saw up close what he is capable of. He was well ahead of Cacok as a freshman. While I'm not saying he will be another Cacok, he looked very promising. He was better at stepping out and making shots. And he is a better shot blocker. He came in super confident as a freshman. Now it seems that for some reason, he has lost that confidence. And sounds like Siddle feels the same way. So I'm not giving up on him just yet. If he can get who he was back, he will be a big contributor for this team.

(12-20-2020 10:56 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  I was right there on the floor, under the basket, watching Dodd last year. I saw up close what he is capable of. He was well ahead of Cacok as a freshman. While I'm not saying he will be another Cacok, he looked very promising. He was better at stepping out and making shots. And he is a better shot blocker. He came in super confident as a freshman. Now it seems that for some reason, he has lost that confidence. And sounds like Siddle feels the same way. So I'm not giving up on him just yet. If he can get who he was back, he will be a big contributor for this team.

I just don't see him as the lone big man with four guards. Siddle needs his four to be a scorer, and he needs his five to be a shot blocked and rebounder. I just don't think he had the height to play that role. Thats not a knock on him, it's more of a system issue.

He can block shots pretty good and can board. We need him at his best. We need everyone right about now.

(12-20-2020 05:23 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 10:56 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  I was right there on the floor, under the basket, watching Dodd last year. I saw up close what he is capable of. He was well ahead of Cacok as a freshman. While I'm not saying he will be another Cacok, he looked very promising. He was better at stepping out and making shots. And he is a better shot blocker. He came in super confident as a freshman. Now it seems that for some reason, he has lost that confidence. And sounds like Siddle feels the same way. So I'm not giving up on him just yet. If he can get who he was back, he will be a big contributor for this team.

I just don't see him as the line big man with four guards. Middle needs his four to be a scorer, and he needs his five to be a shot blocked and rebounder. I just don't think he had the height to play that role. Thats not a knock on him, it's more of a system issue.

Cacok played that role. He was 6’7”. Dodd is 6’6”. You telling me that one inch prevents him from the role you describe. I’m having a difficult time wrapping my brain around that side of a debate.


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(12-20-2020 06:27 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 05:23 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 10:56 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  I was right there on the floor, under the basket, watching Dodd last year. I saw up close what he is capable of. He was well ahead of Cacok as a freshman. While I'm not saying he will be another Cacok, he looked very promising. He was better at stepping out and making shots. And he is a better shot blocker. He came in super confident as a freshman. Now it seems that for some reason, he has lost that confidence. And sounds like Siddle feels the same way. So I'm not giving up on him just yet. If he can get who he was back, he will be a big contributor for this team.

I just don't see him as the line big man with four guards. Middle needs his four to be a scorer, and he needs his five to be a shot blocked and rebounder. I just don't think he had the height to play that role. Thats not a knock on him, it's more of a system issue.

Cacok played that role. He was 6’7”. Dodd is 6’6”. You telling me that one inch prevents him from the role you describe. I’m having a difficult time wrapping my brain around that side of a debate.


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Cacok was a freak of nature. He literally set the all time NCAA record for FG%. He then led the nation in rebounding. He had some defensive deficiencies and wasn't a great shot blocker, but he was so good on the boards and finished so well, his positives outweighed his negtives. It's probably too much to expect that level of play from Dodd or any player his size.

(12-20-2020 06:38 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 06:27 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 05:23 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 10:56 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  I was right there on the floor, under the basket, watching Dodd last year. I saw up close what he is capable of. He was well ahead of Cacok as a freshman. While I'm not saying he will be another Cacok, he looked very promising. He was better at stepping out and making shots. And he is a better shot blocker. He came in super confident as a freshman. Now it seems that for some reason, he has lost that confidence. And sounds like Siddle feels the same way. So I'm not giving up on him just yet. If he can get who he was back, he will be a big contributor for this team.

I just don't see him as the line big man with four guards. Middle needs his four to be a scorer, and he needs his five to be a shot blocked and rebounder. I just don't think he had the height to play that role. Thats not a knock on him, it's more of a system issue.

Cacok played that role. He was 6’7”. Dodd is 6’6”. You telling me that one inch prevents him from the role you describe. I’m having a difficult time wrapping my brain around that side of a debate.


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It's probably too much to expect that level of play from Dodd or any player his size.

So is this your agreement that we need better big man because there is no Cacok on this team to offset it? Took a while, but I'm glad we got you there.

Well dayum! Why didn't we just run out and find another Cacok. I'm sure they grow on trees.

(12-20-2020 08:30 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 06:38 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 06:27 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 05:23 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 10:56 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  I was right there on the floor, under the basket, watching Dodd last year. I saw up close what he is capable of. He was well ahead of Cacok as a freshman. While I'm not saying he will be another Cacok, he looked very promising. He was better at stepping out and making shots. And he is a better shot blocker. He came in super confident as a freshman. Now it seems that for some reason, he has lost that confidence. And sounds like Siddle feels the same way. So I'm not giving up on him just yet. If he can get who he was back, he will be a big contributor for this team.

I just don't see him as the line big man with four guards. Middle needs his four to be a scorer, and he needs his five to be a shot blocked and rebounder. I just don't think he had the height to play that role. Thats not a knock on him, it's more of a system issue.

Cacok played that role. He was 6’7”. Dodd is 6’6”. You telling me that one inch prevents him from the role you describe. I’m having a difficult time wrapping my brain around that side of a debate.


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It's probably too much to expect that level of play from Dodd or any player his size.

So is this your agreement that we need better big man because there is no Cacok on this team to offset it? Took a while, but I'm glad we got you there.

Nope. We don't need a Cacok to win with four men out. But, if you don't have a Cacok, you need a big man who can defend, rebound and block shots. Dodd hasn't proven to be that guy and Steere was supposed to be that guy. Cacok was already undersized, so expecting someone even shorter, who doesn't have the offensive skills and rebounding of Cacok to fill that role is asking too much.

Norfolk State defeated George Mason 68-65 yesterday. GMU had a big lead, but NSU erased it in the second half.

Mason is not predicted to be at the top of the A10, but they're not picked for the cellar, either.

(12-27-2020 03:09 AM)geezerhawkdad Wrote:  Norfolk State defeated George Mason 68-65 yesterday. GMU had a big lead, but NSU erased it in the second half.

Mason is not predicted to be at the top of the A10, but they're not picked for the cellar, either.

Just saw this. Makes that win a little more impressive.

They want their coach gone.

(12-27-2020 01:30 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  They want their coach gone.

Mason or Norfolk

Mason.