Is requiring all athletes and schools to meet APR standards discriminatory towards African American students? If successful this lawsuit may change college athletics.

https://www.blackenterprise.com/hbcu-ath...SocialFlow

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The article was near impossible to read due to all the ads popping up.

I don’t understand how something is discriminatory if it holds everyone to the same standard??? Discrimination would be holding different people to different standards.

requiring student-athletes to pass their classes and matriculate is racist. Got it.

What a world we live in. Hey give everyone a degree. I want mine in voodoo.

How pathetic...

Don’t some schools allow waivers for those football athletes that can’t meet the enrollment qualifications of the general student population?

Seems as if this should have more weight for a lawsuit. One student doesn’t get accepted into the university because they don’t meet the strict academic standards, but another with equal or even less qualifications is allowed just because they play football. This issue bothers me.

(12-12-2020 10:53 AM)Cajunjudo Wrote:  Don’t some schools allow waivers for those football athletes that can’t meet the enrollment qualifications of the general student population?

Seems as if this should have more weight for a lawsuit. One student doesn’t get accepted into the university because they don’t meet the strict academic standards, but another with equal or even less qualifications is allowed just because they play football. This issue bothers me.

There are 2 types of athletes at colleges, student-athletes and marketing tools. Some can be both, others are one or the other.

I'm far from "woke" and 100% against giving HBCUs special treatment for being HBCU's, but I also don't think uniform APR requirements across all schools is fair.

If a school takes on the most vulnerable college students and graduates students at a low rate does having athletes graduate at that same low rate really represent abuse that the APR was designed to get rid of?

Also, are we really supposed to believe the NFL developmental league that some P5 programs have become just have better scholars than, say, the SWAC and the MEAC or do the bigger-budget schools just have better academic support staff and more Mickey Mouse Degree programs to stick athletes who aren't great students?

(12-12-2020 11:34 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I'm far from "woke" and 100% against giving HBCUs special treatment for being HBCU's, but I also don't think uniform APR requirements across all schools is fair.

If a school takes on the most vulnerable college students and graduates students at a low rate does having athletes graduate at that same low rate really represent abuse that the APR was designed to get rid of?

Also, are we really supposed to believe the NFL developmental league that some P5 programs have become just have better scholars than, say, the SWAC and the MEAC or do the bigger-budget schools just have better academic support staff and more Mickey Mouse Degree programs to stick athletes who aren't great students?

Maybe that should be a marker for APR, student-athlete graduation rate should be representative of the overall graduation rate of the general student body of that school.

Hey this is hard, make it easier for me....hey nobody thinks my degree is worth a ****...WTH?

Didn't have much knowledge of what the issue may be, so I did some research and found a good read on it...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/co...story.html

Based on what I read regarding the imbalance in resources (one of them being that they can't afford as many academic advisors as P5's can), HBCU's either need to make a more concerted effort to recruit athletes who are better students, or maybe the NCAA should level the playing field by saying all NCAA member institutions would only be allowed a certain number of academic advisors. That wouldn't address everything, but it would be a start.

My main issue with the article though is that they kept comparing HBCU's to P5's and completely left out the middle man, which are we G5's. I'd like to know where G5's figure into this too because it's not as though we have as many resources as P5's have either and yet we're not filing a lawsuit over it.

At any rate, I think the link I provided is worth the read for anyone who wants to know a little more about it. One interesting thing I found out during my research - though completely incidental and not relevant to the discussion - is that during the 1930's and 1940's, about 3/4 of the professors at HBCU's were Jewish, more specifically Jews who had fled Germany. They couldn't find work in other European countries for a variety of reasons, and fled to the USA. But when they arrived here, the established universities didn't want to hire them either because there were pockets of antisemitism within our own universities as well. HBCU's, to their credit, welcomed them with open arms though.

They don’t need to be comparing them to G5 either, they need to be compared with FCS and DII since that is where the HBCU’s live.

(12-12-2020 02:20 PM)Usajags Wrote:  They don’t need to be comparing them to G5 either, they need to be compared with FCS and DII since that is where the HBCU’s live.

Fair point.