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RE: Sun Belt Commish
Maybe he can move on up to the B1G. For what it’s worth, we are in a better place then they are right now. Their commish is an absolute joke and that conference is all screwed up right now.
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12-08-2020 07:38 PM |
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RE: Sun Belt Commish
(12-08-2020 06:56 PM)balanced_view Wrote: (12-08-2020 07:58 AM)EigenEagle Wrote: Kara from Jonesboro radio pretty much says it. Mike Aresco is out there advocating for his league and talking about some supposed double standard affecting the AAC while Gill is holed up in his covid bunker.
I know this dont change the overall message, but this example your using is from last year. For transparency sake.
Demonstrates that she's been consistent on this topic . . . without respect to which Sun Belt school isn't being properly promoted.
https://twitter.com/Kara_Richey/status/1...15200?s=20
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12-09-2020 04:45 AM |
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balanced_view
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RE: Sun Belt Commish
https://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/spo...dd708.html
Keith Gill sighting....kinda, one of the Cajuns local papers was able to get comments from him, if that counts.
one of his quotes, “I think we’re working really hard so that Coastal can be a representative to the New Year’s Six,” Gill said.
maybe Coastal dont need to be so worried about Louisiana having a extra week to prepare. Gill got ya'll covered.
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12-09-2020 08:38 AM |
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RE: Sun Belt Commish
(12-09-2020 08:38 AM)balanced_view Wrote: https://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/spo...dd708.html
Keith Gill sighting....kinda, one of the Cajuns local papers was able to get comments from him, if that counts.
one of his quotes, “I think we’re working really hard so that Coastal can be a representative to the New Year’s Six,” Gill said.
maybe Coastal dont need to be so worried about Louisiana having a extra week to prepare. Gill got ya'll covered.
Gill giving you guys bulletin board material isn't helping us.
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12-09-2020 08:47 AM |
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RE: Sun Belt Commish
(12-09-2020 08:38 AM)balanced_view Wrote: https://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/spo...dd708.html
Keith Gill sighting....kinda, one of the Cajuns local papers was able to get comments from him, if that counts.
one of his quotes, “I think we’re working really hard so that Coastal can be a representative to the New Year’s Six,” Gill said.
maybe Coastal dont need to be so worried about Louisiana having a extra week to prepare. Gill got ya'll covered.
I can’t wait to beat you guys again next weekend.
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12-09-2020 08:56 AM |
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RE: Sun Belt Commish
(12-08-2020 02:55 PM)stingingeagle Wrote: (12-08-2020 02:51 PM)CC Eagle Wrote: Gill was nearly unanimously unfavored by ADs. He was the choice of presidents, with little athletic support at all.
How does this work? I mean, do they need unanimous support, a certain amount? Did ours vote for this guy?
School presidents vote for commissioner, not ADs. The vast majority of ADs were not in favor of Gill, but it wasn't their call to make.
I think GS was initially in favor of Gill, but I know that Kleinlein didn't want him.
Also, many votes like this will be unanimous in order to present a united front. The Sun Belt has 12 schools. Just guessing, but let's say league bylaws require 8 votes to name a new commish. Even if he would only get 8, it's common for a re-vote to be called and dissenting voters to vote for the guy in order to show that the new person/rule will have the full support of the league.
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12-14-2020 01:10 PM |
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bodoyle
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RE: Sun Belt Commish
I posted this elsewhere before I saw this thread, sorry.
Here is the problem I have with Gill:
1) The conference as a whole sent ZERO reps to CCU when they were hosting College GameDay. Are we the SEC/ACC etc where CGD gopes every year and it isn't a huge ordeal? Nope. Has a SBC team hosted CGD before? Nope. Way to show support Gill et al.
2) Other commissioners do everything in their power to get their best team in the best bowl for exposure and obviously money. The ACC commish did it, and so has the B1G commish. Yet our G5 commish will not budge. I have spoken to multiple people who know the situation way better than I do and I still cannot make sense of it....
If Troy beat us and beats ULM they are bowl eligible. Say whatever bowl it is pays them $400k. That is split pretty evenly between all 10 institutions. So you figure roughly $40k per school. If CCU makes a NY6 bowl you get at least $1m. And since it is a NY6 bowl CCU takes more than the rest of the SBC schools so say $85k per school. I might not be a math wiz but 85>40 the last time I checked. So why would Gill make CCU play a game that could jeopardize their chance at a NY6 bowl and more money for the conference as a whole? If Troy was ranked, or 7-3ish I could understand, but that obviously wasn't the case. And yes, I realize we still have to beat ULL. If there is a legitimate reason I am all for it, but everything I know and have been told, it made absolutely no sense.
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12-14-2020 01:13 PM |
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EagleNationRising
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RE: Sun Belt Commish
(12-14-2020 01:06 PM)Usajags Wrote: (12-14-2020 01:03 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote: https://twitter.com/scott_1420/status/13...31009?s=21
I agree that he should speak up more, but this is an important moment and it seems like he understands that.
Our “subdivision”??? Where did we find this clown???
Coastal should be the #1 team in the G5. When someone puts parenthesis within the quotes, you have to take the parenthesis with a grain of salt. It may be accurate but it may not as well. In this case, I assume he’s talking about FBS and not just the G5. I’m just glad he’s speaking out about it at this critical juncture.
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12-14-2020 01:16 PM |
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balanced_view
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RE: Sun Belt Commish
(12-14-2020 01:13 PM)bodoyle Wrote: I posted this elsewhere before I saw this thread, sorry.
Here is the problem I have with Gill:
1) The conference as a whole sent ZERO reps to CCU when they were hosting College GameDay. Are we the SEC/ACC etc where CGD gopes every year and it isn't a huge ordeal? Nope. Has a SBC team hosted CGD before? Nope. Way to show support Gill et al.
2) Other commissioners do everything in their power to get their best team in the best bowl for exposure and obviously money. The ACC commish did it, and so has the B1G commish. Yet our G5 commish will not budge. I have spoken to multiple people who know the situation way better than I do and I still cannot make sense of it....
If Troy beat us and beats ULM they are bowl eligible. Say whatever bowl it is pays them $400k. That is split pretty evenly between all 10 institutions. So you figure roughly $40k per school. If CCU makes a NY6 bowl you get at least $1m. And since it is a NY6 bowl CCU takes more than the rest of the SBC schools so say $85k per school. I might not be a math wiz but 85>40 the last time I checked. So why would Gill make CCU play a game that could jeopardize their chance at a NY6 bowl and more money for the conference as a whole? If Troy was ranked, or 7-3ish I could understand, but that obviously wasn't the case. And yes, I realize we still have to beat ULL. If there is a legitimate reason I am all for it, but everything I know and have been told, it made absolutely no sense.
your spot on about #1. However, you still dont get it about the Troy game. Not one conference or commissioner canceled a game to give a team rest. NOT ONE! If Coastal wanted out of the game, they should have followed suit with what other conferences did to duck out of a game. claim some level of covid that keep the team from being prepared to play. simple. Do you know if Coastal offered that, but Gill denied it?
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12-14-2020 01:24 PM |
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bodoyle
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RE: Sun Belt Commish
(12-14-2020 01:24 PM)balanced_view Wrote: your spot on about #1. However, you still dont get it about the Troy game. Not one conference or commissioner canceled a game to give a team rest. NOT ONE! If Coastal wanted out of the game, they should have followed suit with what other conferences did to duck out of a game. claim some level of covid that keep the team from being prepared to play. simple. Do you know if Coastal offered that, but Gill denied it?
AFAIK CCU never asked for a "covid excuse" for lack of a better term.
I agree the other commissioners didn't cancel games for rest, they canceled games/changed requirements to get the best teams in the best positions. Canceling the Tulsa/Cincy game helps Cincy a ton b/c Tulsa doesn't get a look at them before the CCG. Changing the requirements in the B1G obviously helps the entire conference b/c there is no chance in hell another school gets into the CFP.
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12-14-2020 01:41 PM |
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RE: Sun Belt Commish
(12-14-2020 01:41 PM)bodoyle Wrote: (12-14-2020 01:24 PM)balanced_view Wrote: your spot on about #1. However, you still dont get it about the Troy game. Not one conference or commissioner canceled a game to give a team rest. NOT ONE! If Coastal wanted out of the game, they should have followed suit with what other conferences did to duck out of a game. claim some level of covid that keep the team from being prepared to play. simple. Do you know if Coastal offered that, but Gill denied it?
AFAIK CCU never asked for a "covid excuse" for lack of a better term.
I agree the other commissioners didn't cancel games for rest, they canceled games/changed requirements to get the best teams in the best positions. Canceling the Tulsa/Cincy game helps Cincy a ton b/c Tulsa doesn't get a look at them before the CCG. Changing the requirements in the B1G obviously helps the entire conference b/c there is no chance in hell another school gets into the CFP.
Good lord, you CCU fans are making it soooooo easy to hope ULL squashes you.
Can't wait for your coach to get plucked and your fans crawl back into their holes.
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12-14-2020 01:43 PM |
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RE: Sun Belt Commish
Does everyone remember last year when the SBC commish championed App State for a better bowl or more publicity?
Don't start paying attention the first year you're good, this is a long standing complaint about the current leaders.
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12-14-2020 01:46 PM |
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bodoyle
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RE: Sun Belt Commish
Hate all you want istoop. I asked a legit question.
Our coach is on the verge of a 7 year extension.
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12-14-2020 01:48 PM |
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RE: Sun Belt Commish
(12-14-2020 01:46 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: Does everyone remember last year when the SBC commish championed App State for a better bowl or more publicity?
Don't start paying attention the first year you're good, this is a long standing complaint about the current leaders.
Shouldn't this year exacerbate the issue with Gill and the SBC front office then?
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12-14-2020 01:49 PM |
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RE: Sun Belt Commish
(12-14-2020 01:41 PM)bodoyle Wrote: (12-14-2020 01:24 PM)balanced_view Wrote: your spot on about #1. However, you still dont get it about the Troy game. Not one conference or commissioner canceled a game to give a team rest. NOT ONE! If Coastal wanted out of the game, they should have followed suit with what other conferences did to duck out of a game. claim some level of covid that keep the team from being prepared to play. simple. Do you know if Coastal offered that, but Gill denied it?
AFAIK CCU never asked for a "covid excuse" for lack of a better term.
I agree the other commissioners didn't cancel games for rest, they canceled games/changed requirements to get the best teams in the best positions. Canceling the Tulsa/Cincy game helps Cincy a ton b/c Tulsa doesn't get a look at them before the CCG. Changing the requirements in the B1G obviously helps the entire conference b/c there is no chance in hell another school gets into the CFP.
Can you just list the public reason AAC canceled the Tulsa/Cincy game? I dont remember reading it being to get the best team in the best position.
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12-14-2020 01:52 PM |
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RE: Sun Belt Commish
(12-14-2020 01:48 PM)bodoyle Wrote: Hate all you want istoop. I asked a legit question.
Our coach is on the verge of a 7 year extension.
Extensions are not worth more than the paper they're written on when a power 5 with more money than CCU could ever dream of comes knocking.
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12-14-2020 01:54 PM |
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RE: Sun Belt Commish
(12-14-2020 01:13 PM)bodoyle Wrote: I posted this elsewhere before I saw this thread, sorry.
Here is the problem I have with Gill:
1) The conference as a whole sent ZERO reps to CCU when they were hosting College GameDay. Are we the SEC/ACC etc where CGD gopes every year and it isn't a huge ordeal? Nope. Has a SBC team hosted CGD before? Nope. Way to show support Gill et al.
2) Other commissioners do everything in their power to get their best team in the best bowl for exposure and obviously money. The ACC commish did it, and so has the B1G commish. Yet our G5 commish will not budge. I have spoken to multiple people who know the situation way better than I do and I still cannot make sense of it....
If Troy beat us and beats ULM they are bowl eligible. Say whatever bowl it is pays them $400k. That is split pretty evenly between all 10 institutions. So you figure roughly $40k per school. If CCU makes a NY6 bowl you get at least $1m. And since it is a NY6 bowl CCU takes more than the rest of the SBC schools so say $85k per school. I might not be a math wiz but 85>40 the last time I checked. So why would Gill make CCU play a game that could jeopardize their chance at a NY6 bowl and more money for the conference as a whole? If Troy was ranked, or 7-3ish I could understand, but that obviously wasn't the case. And yes, I realize we still have to beat ULL. If there is a legitimate reason I am all for it, but everything I know and have been told, it made absolutely no sense.
I don't think bowl payouts are going to be the same this year. Typically payouts come in the form of tickets, which are then sold. Don't think near as many tickets will be sold recently. I'm sure whatever money comes from the bowls will all go towards that team's travel expenses, and will probably even fall short. The biggest help would be if Coastal makes a NY6 bowl, which has a much higher payout and is funded by TV deals. That will benefit the conference much more than all of the other bowls combined.
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