boy injuries suck.

MRI tomorrow morning for him.

(03-03-2021 10:46 PM)stever20 Wrote:  boy injuries suck.

MRI tomorrow morning for him.

Hate to see it. Absolutely sucks, especially for a senior

Good it's not the ACL I guess.

so looked online-
A grade 1 (minor) MCL tear can take from a few days to a week and a half to heal enough for a return to normal activities, including sports.
A grade 2 tear can take from two to four weeks to heal.
A grade 3 tear usually takes four to eight weeks to heal, unless the ACL is also damaged, in which case recovery may take longer.

So assuming it's a grade 3 given they're ruling him out for the season. Still 4-8 weeks is not bad given how it looked last night.

saw this-

(03-04-2021 10:23 PM)stever20 Wrote:  saw this-

I still have to wonder why he used that expression. I've never heard anybody say "stay on the plantation" — not even racists (and I've been around a few of those in my time — in both the North and South). I've heard "stay on the same page" and even "stay on the horse" to convey the concept of "we can't give up and we have to be united." But "stay on the plantation" ... ?

(03-04-2021 11:38 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 10:23 PM)stever20 Wrote:  saw this-

I still have to wonder why he used that expression. I've never heard anybody say "stay on the plantation" — not even racists (and I've been around a few of those in my time — in both the North and South). I've heard "stay on the same page" and even "stay on the horse" to convey the concept of "we can't give up and we have to be united." But "stay on the plantation" ... ?

yeah definitely know what you mean...

I think odds are pretty good he never coaches at Creighton again. What do you guys think?

(03-04-2021 11:43 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 11:38 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 10:23 PM)stever20 Wrote:  saw this-

I still have to wonder why he used that expression. I've never heard anybody say "stay on the plantation" — not even racists (and I've been around a few of those in my time — in both the North and South). I've heard "stay on the same page" and even "stay on the horse" to convey the concept of "we can't give up and we have to be united." But "stay on the plantation" ... ?

yeah definitely know what you mean...

I think odds are pretty good he never coaches at Creighton again. What do you guys think?

The more I ponder it, the more I feel he might be dismissed at CU.

I recall a coach (can't remember the name), who said during halftime his white player needed to play more like xxxx (he used the "N" words). He claimed it was a compliment of sorts, that his black players worked harder and were more competitive and determined. Maybe he was being truthful — though he clearly should not have used that heinous work. Still, and as I recall, he was fired.

McDermott was suggesting he is the "master" and his "slaves" need to "stay on the plantation." In some respects, his words are worse than those of the coach in the example, who was fired. So GM could easily be fired, too.

For whatever it's worth, McDermott seems to have a very "white personal background," having lived in, worked in and gone to school in very non-diverse places. Now, his son is in the NBA, which is diverse. And I have no reason to believe Greg McDermott is a hard-core racist. He might simply be a bit "old school" and not fully "get it."

I would say there is a 75% chance he is dismissed. But if his players love him and he is genuinely sorry (which it sure seems it is), perhaps giving him a second chance is the fair thing to do.

(03-05-2021 09:04 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 11:43 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 11:38 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 10:23 PM)stever20 Wrote:  saw this-

I still have to wonder why he used that expression. I've never heard anybody say "stay on the plantation" — not even racists (and I've been around a few of those in my time — in both the North and South). I've heard "stay on the same page" and even "stay on the horse" to convey the concept of "we can't give up and we have to be united." But "stay on the plantation" ... ?

yeah definitely know what you mean...

I think odds are pretty good he never coaches at Creighton again. What do you guys think?

The more I ponder it, the more I feel he might be dismissed at CU.

I recall a coach (can't remember the name), who said during halftime his white player needed to play more like xxxx (he used the "N" words). He claimed it was a compliment of sorts, that his black players worked harder and were more competitive and determined. Maybe he was being truthful — though he clearly should not have used that heinous work. Still, and as I recall, he was fired.

McDermott was suggesting he is the "master" and his "slaves" need to "stay on the plantation." In some respects, his words are worse than those of the coach in the example, who was fired. So GM could easily be fired, too.

For whatever it's worth, McDermott seems to have a very "white personal background," having lived in, worked in and gone to school in very non-diverse places. Now, his son is in the NBA, which is diverse. And I have no reason to believe Greg McDermott is a hard-core racist. He might simply be a bit "old school" and not fully "get it."

I would say there is a 75% chance he is dismissed. But if his players love him and he is genuinely sorry (which it sure seems it is), perhaps giving him a second chance is the fair thing to do.

Agreed it's 75% or greater he's fired. Even 5-10 years ago, if he apologized and his players all said they forgave him (which seems to be the case) I think he would be reprimanded and everyone would move on. But in this modern cancel culture, the blowback from the media and Twitter mobs is so strong and constant the university may not find it to be worth the hassle. No idea who they replace him with. Gregg Marshall? (Kidding, lol)

Can't for the life of me figure out why he used that phrase either bill. I've never even heard that used as a figure of speech. It does come across as a "freudian slip" of sorts. And I'm probably the furthest thing you will find from politically correct. I remember when the owner of the Texans was talking about players kneeling for the national anthem and made the comment "you can't let the inmates run the prison." A bunch of players and outlets were making him out to be racist, but I at least got what he was conveying. The players aren't running the business, aren't the ones losing money if viewership declines (at least not right away, since they're all under contract), etc. Was it tone deaf considering the entire conversation was centered around reforming the justice system? Absolutely. But at least it's a figure of speech that made sense in the context it was being used. I really can't fathom a reason for Mcdermott using the word plantation. It baffles me

saw this-

Going to be interesting if he comes back next year.

(03-05-2021 09:56 AM)Nameless Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 09:04 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 11:43 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 11:38 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 10:23 PM)stever20 Wrote:  saw this-

I still have to wonder why he used that expression. I've never heard anybody say "stay on the plantation" — not even racists (and I've been around a few of those in my time — in both the North and South). I've heard "stay on the same page" and even "stay on the horse" to convey the concept of "we can't give up and we have to be united." But "stay on the plantation" ... ?

yeah definitely know what you mean...

I think odds are pretty good he never coaches at Creighton again. What do you guys think?

The more I ponder it, the more I feel he might be dismissed at CU.

I recall a coach (can't remember the name), who said during halftime his white player needed to play more like xxxx (he used the "N" words). He claimed it was a compliment of sorts, that his black players worked harder and were more competitive and determined. Maybe he was being truthful — though he clearly should not have used that heinous work. Still, and as I recall, he was fired.

McDermott was suggesting he is the "master" and his "slaves" need to "stay on the plantation." In some respects, his words are worse than those of the coach in the example, who was fired. So GM could easily be fired, too.

For whatever it's worth, McDermott seems to have a very "white personal background," having lived in, worked in and gone to school in very non-diverse places. Now, his son is in the NBA, which is diverse. And I have no reason to believe Greg McDermott is a hard-core racist. He might simply be a bit "old school" and not fully "get it."

I would say there is a 75% chance he is dismissed. But if his players love him and he is genuinely sorry (which it sure seems it is), perhaps giving him a second chance is the fair thing to do.

Agreed it's 75% or greater he's fired. Even 5-10 years ago, if he apologized and his players all said they forgave him (which seems to be the case) I think he would be reprimanded and everyone would move on. But in this modern cancel culture, the blowback from the media and Twitter mobs is so strong and constant the university may not find it to be worth the hassle. No idea who they replace him with. Gregg Marshall? (Kidding, lol)

Can't for the life of me figure out why he used that phrase either bill. I've never even heard that used as a figure of speech. It does come across as a "freudian slip" of sorts. And I'm probably the furthest thing you will find from politically correct. I remember when the owner of the Texans was talking about players kneeling for the national anthem and made the comment "you can't let the inmates run the prison." A bunch of players and outlets were making him out to be racist, but I at least got what he was conveying. The players aren't running the business, aren't the ones losing money if viewership declines (at least not right away, since they're all under contract), etc. Was it tone deaf considering the entire conversation was centered around reforming the justice system? Absolutely. But at least it's a figure of speech that made sense in the context it was being used. I really can't fathom a reason for Mcdermott using the word plantation. It baffles me

Agree that the "inmates running the prison" comment was not a big deal if you consider all the dynamics.

But McDermott's comment ... bad.

Funny you mention Gregg Marshall because he actually would be an outstanding hire in some odd ways. The man is possessed of a massive ego and would likely love to "stick it" to Wichita, which he could do nicely at CU. But there is no way Creighton would go that route if it dismisses GM.

If CU fires GM, does it look for a black coach? I could see that.

(03-05-2021 12:36 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 09:56 AM)Nameless Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 09:04 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 11:43 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 11:38 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I still have to wonder why he used that expression. I've never heard anybody say "stay on the plantation" — not even racists (and I've been around a few of those in my time — in both the North and South). I've heard "stay on the same page" and even "stay on the horse" to convey the concept of "we can't give up and we have to be united." But "stay on the plantation" ... ?

yeah definitely know what you mean...

I think odds are pretty good he never coaches at Creighton again. What do you guys think?

The more I ponder it, the more I feel he might be dismissed at CU.

I recall a coach (can't remember the name), who said during halftime his white player needed to play more like xxxx (he used the "N" words). He claimed it was a compliment of sorts, that his black players worked harder and were more competitive and determined. Maybe he was being truthful — though he clearly should not have used that heinous work. Still, and as I recall, he was fired.

McDermott was suggesting he is the "master" and his "slaves" need to "stay on the plantation." In some respects, his words are worse than those of the coach in the example, who was fired. So GM could easily be fired, too.

For whatever it's worth, McDermott seems to have a very "white personal background," having lived in, worked in and gone to school in very non-diverse places. Now, his son is in the NBA, which is diverse. And I have no reason to believe Greg McDermott is a hard-core racist. He might simply be a bit "old school" and not fully "get it."

I would say there is a 75% chance he is dismissed. But if his players love him and he is genuinely sorry (which it sure seems it is), perhaps giving him a second chance is the fair thing to do.

Agreed it's 75% or greater he's fired. Even 5-10 years ago, if he apologized and his players all said they forgave him (which seems to be the case) I think he would be reprimanded and everyone would move on. But in this modern cancel culture, the blowback from the media and Twitter mobs is so strong and constant the university may not find it to be worth the hassle. No idea who they replace him with. Gregg Marshall? (Kidding, lol)

Can't for the life of me figure out why he used that phrase either bill. I've never even heard that used as a figure of speech. It does come across as a "freudian slip" of sorts. And I'm probably the furthest thing you will find from politically correct. I remember when the owner of the Texans was talking about players kneeling for the national anthem and made the comment "you can't let the inmates run the prison." A bunch of players and outlets were making him out to be racist, but I at least got what he was conveying. The players aren't running the business, aren't the ones losing money if viewership declines (at least not right away, since they're all under contract), etc. Was it tone deaf considering the entire conversation was centered around reforming the justice system? Absolutely. But at least it's a figure of speech that made sense in the context it was being used. I really can't fathom a reason for Mcdermott using the word plantation. It baffles me

Agree that the "inmates running the prison" comment was not a big deal if you consider all the dynamics.

But McDermott's comment ... bad.

Funny you mention Gregg Marshall because he actually would be an outstanding hire in some odd ways. The man is possessed of a massive ego and would likely love to "stick it" to Wichita, which he could do nicely at CU. But there is no way Creighton would go that route if it dismisses GM.

If CU fires GM, does it look for a black coach? I could see that.

If he is fired, I just want then to hire a good replacement, regardless of skin color. Black, white... Hell they can hire a green martian if keeps them in the top 25 lol. But the last thing I want is them to make a hire based on race, just for optics/PR. I want CU at the elite level it's been performing at these past few years. Where would the conference be without them in the top 25 this year?

With that being said I'm not even overly familiar with who's available in the coaching market. Do you have any suggestions/ideas? Probably too soon to even consider trying to pry Pitino away from Iona.

(03-05-2021 01:07 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

Deserving

UConn just handing out extensions all over the place...

(03-05-2021 01:08 PM)Nameless Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 01:07 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

Deserving

Congrats to UConn. Seems the fair thing to do with DH.

(03-05-2021 01:04 PM)Nameless Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 12:36 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 09:56 AM)Nameless Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 09:04 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(03-04-2021 11:43 PM)stever20 Wrote:  yeah definitely know what you mean...

I think odds are pretty good he never coaches at Creighton again. What do you guys think?

The more I ponder it, the more I feel he might be dismissed at CU.

I recall a coach (can't remember the name), who said during halftime his white player needed to play more like xxxx (he used the "N" words). He claimed it was a compliment of sorts, that his black players worked harder and were more competitive and determined. Maybe he was being truthful — though he clearly should not have used that heinous work. Still, and as I recall, he was fired.

McDermott was suggesting he is the "master" and his "slaves" need to "stay on the plantation." In some respects, his words are worse than those of the coach in the example, who was fired. So GM could easily be fired, too.

For whatever it's worth, McDermott seems to have a very "white personal background," having lived in, worked in and gone to school in very non-diverse places. Now, his son is in the NBA, which is diverse. And I have no reason to believe Greg McDermott is a hard-core racist. He might simply be a bit "old school" and not fully "get it."

I would say there is a 75% chance he is dismissed. But if his players love him and he is genuinely sorry (which it sure seems it is), perhaps giving him a second chance is the fair thing to do.

Agreed it's 75% or greater he's fired. Even 5-10 years ago, if he apologized and his players all said they forgave him (which seems to be the case) I think he would be reprimanded and everyone would move on. But in this modern cancel culture, the blowback from the media and Twitter mobs is so strong and constant the university may not find it to be worth the hassle. No idea who they replace him with. Gregg Marshall? (Kidding, lol)

Can't for the life of me figure out why he used that phrase either bill. I've never even heard that used as a figure of speech. It does come across as a "freudian slip" of sorts. And I'm probably the furthest thing you will find from politically correct. I remember when the owner of the Texans was talking about players kneeling for the national anthem and made the comment "you can't let the inmates run the prison." A bunch of players and outlets were making him out to be racist, but I at least got what he was conveying. The players aren't running the business, aren't the ones losing money if viewership declines (at least not right away, since they're all under contract), etc. Was it tone deaf considering the entire conversation was centered around reforming the justice system? Absolutely. But at least it's a figure of speech that made sense in the context it was being used. I really can't fathom a reason for Mcdermott using the word plantation. It baffles me

Agree that the "inmates running the prison" comment was not a big deal if you consider all the dynamics.

But McDermott's comment ... bad.

Funny you mention Gregg Marshall because he actually would be an outstanding hire in some odd ways. The man is possessed of a massive ego and would likely love to "stick it" to Wichita, which he could do nicely at CU. But there is no way Creighton would go that route if it dismisses GM.

If CU fires GM, does it look for a black coach? I could see that.

If he is fired, I just want then to hire a good replacement, regardless of skin color. Black, white... Hell they can hire a green martian if keeps them in the top 25 lol. But the last thing I want is them to make a hire based on race, just for optics/PR. I want CU at the elite level it's been performing at these past few years. Where would the conference be without them in the top 25 this year?

With that being said I'm not even overly familiar with who's available in the coaching market. Do you have any suggestions/ideas? Probably too soon to even consider trying to pry Pitino away from Iona.

No idea as to whom would be a strong replacement. In a bold move, Creighton hires ... a woman. And I'm not kidding. Some program eventually will do it. You're talking about serious national goodwill generated. Would put a strong spotlight on CU hoops.

Or hire Creighton men's hoops coach Jim Flanery. The man is a CU grad and a winner.

In general, I do agree with you about not hiring for the sake of optics. But given how embarrassing this is for CU, the university might have to "think outside the box."

(03-05-2021 01:07 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

My phone won't load this tweet but I take it it's in reference to Randy Edsall? Not sure why the hell he got one. Not like he's done anything of note. Unless it's a sign that absolutely nobody wants to coach our football program

(03-05-2021 07:20 PM)Nameless Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 01:07 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

My phone won't load this tweet but I take it it's in reference to Randy Edsall? Not sure why the hell he got one. Not like he's done anything of note. Unless it's a sign that absolutely nobody wants to coach our football program

yeah it was Edsall. a bit weird for sure.

Nova getting beat by PC badly early. Nova could see themselves fall to a 5 or 6 seed if they aren't competitive today or in the QF of the BET.