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Aresco is the conference commish and it's his job to fight for and tout his own conference. He's also a former CBS Sports exec and understands marketing and television media rights and how the bigger picture fits. Again, I don't see what the big deal is except that tends to rile some folks up. As I've posted before, there are a handful of fans that wave that stuff around to make themselves feel better I guess. Most of us in the AAC just appreciate the opportunities that we have, and will continue to have moving forward. No harm, no foul.

(11-02-2020 04:46 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Aresco is the conference commish and it's his job to fight for and tout his own conference. He's also a former CBS Sports exec and understands marketing and television media rights and how the bigger picture fits. Again, I don't see what the big deal is except that tends to rile some folks up.

Well, there are 10 FBS conference commissioners, all of whom have the job of standing up for their conferences. But Aresco seems to be a lot more publicly aggressive, particularly in the sense of saying things, like "we are P6" that implies a comparison to other conferences. Most other commissioners just say things like "we believe our conference is as fine as any conference in America", vague stuff that doesn't necessarily infer anything about other conferences. But Aresco touts the AAC in a way that says the AAC is better than other peer conferences, and of course if you say you are better, that is naturally going to "rile up" those who you are saying that about.

IOW's, you can't make those kinds of claims and then feign surprise that this sparks pushback from others.

Nobody will replace the AAC. We are irreplaceable.

(11-02-2020 05:58 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-02-2020 04:46 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Aresco is the conference commish and it's his job to fight for and tout his own conference. He's also a former CBS Sports exec and understands marketing and television media rights and how the bigger picture fits. Again, I don't see what the big deal is except that tends to rile some folks up.

Well, there are 10 FBS conference commissioners, all of whom have the job of standing up for their conferences. But Aresco seems to be a lot more publicly aggressive, particularly in the sense of saying things, like "we are P6" that implies a comparison to other conferences. Most other commissioners just say things like "we believe our conference is as fine as any conference in America", vague stuff that doesn't necessarily infer anything about other conferences. But Aresco touts the AAC in a way that says the AAC is better than other peer conferences, and of course if you say you are better, that is naturally going to "rile up" those who you are saying that about.

IOW's, you can't make those kinds of claims and then feign surprise that this sparks pushback from others.

Feign surprise? If that is a reference to me you couldn't be further off the cliff. I'm saying at the end of the day I think it is a pretty mild thing to feel you have to "push back" against. But whatever floats the boats for some.

I see the candidates for the 2020-21 Lou Henson Award, which is presented annually to the nation's top Division I mid-major player, have been named.

This is what has me puzzled, so maybe a BYU and/or a Gonzaga fan can answer.

Scanning lists of candidates from the past years and this year, I see BYU players but no Gonzaga players. So does the body that oversees the Henson award consider Gonzaga a "major" program even though the Zags' league home, the West Coast Conference, is considered "mid-major" by that entity? And what is the deal with BYU, considering the program has had players on the list?

I'm on record on this board as considering both Gonzaga and BYU as major to high-major men's hoops programs. Nothing "mid-major-ish" about those two individually.

From the Henson Award website:

Players on teams from the following conferences are eligible for the award: America East, Atlantic Sun, Big Sky, Big South, Big West, Colonial, Horizon, Ivy, Metro Atlantic, Mid-American, Mid-Eastern, Missouri Valley, Northeast, Ohio Valley, Patriot, Southern, Southland, Southwestern, Summit, Sun Belt, West Coast.

Of course a Villanova fan starts this thread

(12-03-2020 09:39 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I see the candidates for the 2020-21 Lou Henson Award, which is presented annually to the nation's top Division I mid-major player, have been named.

This is what has me puzzled, so maybe a BYU and/or a Gonzaga fan can answer.

Scanning lists of candidates from the past years and this year, I see BYU players but no Gonzaga players. So does the body that oversees the Henson award consider Gonzaga a "major" program even though the Zags' league home, the West Coast Conference, is considered "mid-major" by that entity? And what is the deal with BYU, considering the program has had players on the list?

I'm on record on this board as considering both Gonzaga and BYU as major to high-major men's hoops programs. Nothing "mid-major-ish" about those two individually.

From the Henson Award website:

Players on teams from the following conferences are eligible for the award: America East, Atlantic Sun, Big Sky, Big South, Big West, Colonial, Horizon, Ivy, Metro Atlantic, Mid-American, Mid-Eastern, Missouri Valley, Northeast, Ohio Valley, Patriot, Southern, Southland, Southwestern, Summit, Sun Belt, West Coast.

It’s a bit of a mystery and the reasoning behind who they select and, in this case, who they don’t select is opaque. Gonzaga is not excluded as a mid-major from College Insider who runs the Henson Award. College Insider maintains a Mid-Major Top 25 which doesn’t include schools from the ACC, American, B1G, Big East, PAC, SEC, or XII. Gonzaga is currently ranked #1 on that list.

(12-03-2020 11:16 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 09:39 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I see the candidates for the 2020-21 Lou Henson Award, which is presented annually to the nation's top Division I mid-major player, have been named.

This is what has me puzzled, so maybe a BYU and/or a Gonzaga fan can answer.

Scanning lists of candidates from the past years and this year, I see BYU players but no Gonzaga players. So does the body that oversees the Henson award consider Gonzaga a "major" program even though the Zags' league home, the West Coast Conference, is considered "mid-major" by that entity? And what is the deal with BYU, considering the program has had players on the list?

I'm on record on this board as considering both Gonzaga and BYU as major to high-major men's hoops programs. Nothing "mid-major-ish" about those two individually.

From the Henson Award website:

Players on teams from the following conferences are eligible for the award: America East, Atlantic Sun, Big Sky, Big South, Big West, Colonial, Horizon, Ivy, Metro Atlantic, Mid-American, Mid-Eastern, Missouri Valley, Northeast, Ohio Valley, Patriot, Southern, Southland, Southwestern, Summit, Sun Belt, West Coast.

It’s a bit of a mystery and the reasoning behind who they select and, in this case, who they don’t select is opaque. Gonzaga is not excluded as a mid-major from College Insider who runs the Henson Award. College Insider maintains a Mid-Major Top 25 which doesn’t include schools from the ACC, American, B1G, Big East, PAC, SEC, or XII. Gonzaga is currently ranked #1 on that list.

Now I do seem to recall having seen the College Insider poll. Will check it today. It seems very contradictory. Thanks for the update.

(12-03-2020 11:04 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Of course a Villanova fan starts this thread

If you are referring to me, Pony 94, I'm a Vanderbilt fan. If not, my bad.

thx

(12-03-2020 11:04 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Of course a Villanova fan starts this thread

Jed is a Temple fan.

(12-04-2020 10:11 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 11:04 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Of course a Villanova fan starts this thread

Jed is a Temple fan.

And Quo is a "USF fan."

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