(11-24-2020 10:57 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 10:36 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 10:30 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  UC vs. BYU has been discussed, but not likely per Aresco last week.

@8 min mark
https://sports56whbq.com/shows/sports-56...-middays-2

Damn, does he have a weekly segment there on radio in Memphis? He has never once spoken to our media.

He probably has, but our local radio guys are Bengals/Reds obsessed.

How a top 10 football team gets passed on by those teams, I will never understand.

So UCF or SMU going to put BYU out of its misery?

They went from thinking they were running things and play off to the New Mexico Bowl in Frisco bowl with a loss or a date with Army in the Indy if they win out. Who wants to go take that top 25 ranking off them?

Sounds like a plan...

But Notre Dame or Clemson has to have 2 losses

Alabama has to win out...Eliminating Florida

Any 1 loss champion in the Big is getting in.

That puts Cinci at 5...Behind Texas A&M...That game may be able to overcome Texas A&M

(11-24-2020 07:56 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Sounds like a plan...

But Notre Dame or Clemson has to have 2 losses

Alabama has to win out...Eliminating Florida

Any 1 loss champion in the Big is getting in.

That puts Cinci at 5...Behind Texas A&M...That game may be able to overcome Texas A&M

ND beating Clemson again will put them out.

Alabama beating Florida puts them out.

Auburn beating Alabama or Texas AnM or both.

This is all very likely. BYU at #14 gives Cincy nothing. It's all risk for Cincy and no reward.

(11-24-2020 07:49 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  So UCF or SMU going to put BYU out of its misery?

They went from thinking they were running things and play off to the New Mexico Bowl in Frisco bowl with a loss or a date with Army in the Indy if they win out. Who wants to go take that top 25 ranking off them?

@SamBlum3
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Nov 23
SMU football is having discussions about possibly adding a game to the schedule on Dec. 12, per Sonny Dykes. Nothing final yet.

This is a very good scenario for Cincinnati and the American. Cincinnati within striking distance of the playoff and BYU not in the picture should be a strong nudge for BYU to re-think joining the American. It really would be the best move for them and the conference.

(11-24-2020 08:44 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  This is a very good scenario for Cincinnati and the American. Cincinnati within striking distance of the playoff and BYU not in the picture should be a strong nudge for BYU to re-think joining the American. It really would be the best move for them and the conference.

That Cincy has done this all on the AAC schedule no p5 help is the biggest selling point.

(11-24-2020 08:20 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 07:49 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  So UCF or SMU going to put BYU out of its misery?

They went from thinking they were running things and play off to the New Mexico Bowl in Frisco bowl with a loss or a date with Army in the Indy if they win out. Who wants to go take that top 25 ranking off them?

@SamBlum3
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Nov 23
SMU football is having discussions about possibly adding a game to the schedule on Dec. 12, per Sonny Dykes. Nothing final yet.

Good good. I think you all romp on them.

BYU is 14. We're 7.

Now what do we have to gain by playing them again?

(11-24-2020 08:06 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 07:56 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Sounds like a plan...

But Notre Dame or Clemson has to have 2 losses

Alabama has to win out...Eliminating Florida

Any 1 loss champion in the Big is getting in.

That puts Cinci at 5...Behind Texas A&M...That game may be able to overcome Texas A&M

ND beating Clemson again will put them out.

Alabama beating Florida puts them out.

Auburn beating Alabama or Texas AnM or both.

This is all very likely. BYU at #14 gives Cincy nothing. It's all risk for Cincy and no reward.

Correct ND or Clemson needs to have 2 losses...If they both have 1 it essentially eliminates Cinci and I don't see ND beating Clemson again with Lawrence.

If Auburn doesn't beat A&M it doesn't help for them to beat Alabama...The issue is A&M not going to the championship game and staying at 1 loss.

So it does help if A&M is 4 and Cinci is 5...Because without BYU Cinci likely has 0 wins in the CFP rankings when it is said and done...Just like it would be tough to exclude ND or Clemson with their only losses being to top 4 teams it would be tough to exclude A&M with their only loss being to a top 4 team.

Bottom line is if they cant beat BYU they don't deserve a shot.

(11-24-2020 09:39 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 08:06 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 07:56 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Sounds like a plan...

But Notre Dame or Clemson has to have 2 losses

Alabama has to win out...Eliminating Florida

Any 1 loss champion in the Big is getting in.

That puts Cinci at 5...Behind Texas A&M...That game may be able to overcome Texas A&M

ND beating Clemson again will put them out.

Alabama beating Florida puts them out.

Auburn beating Alabama or Texas AnM or both.

This is all very likely. BYU at #14 gives Cincy nothing. It's all risk for Cincy and no reward.

Correct ND or Clemson needs to have 2 losses...If they both have 1 it essentially eliminates Cinci and I don't see ND beating Clemson again with Lawrence.

If Auburn doesn't beat A&M it doesn't help for them to beat Alabama...The issue is A&M not going to the championship and staying at 1 loss.

No it doesn't. But I addressed it in the other thread so go there. Cincy is in the catbird seat right now needing only to win out and one or perhaps two things to fall their way.

(11-24-2020 09:43 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 09:39 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 08:06 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 07:56 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Sounds like a plan...

But Notre Dame or Clemson has to have 2 losses

Alabama has to win out...Eliminating Florida

Any 1 loss champion in the Big is getting in.

That puts Cinci at 5...Behind Texas A&M...That game may be able to overcome Texas A&M

ND beating Clemson again will put them out.

Alabama beating Florida puts them out.

Auburn beating Alabama or Texas AnM or both.

This is all very likely. BYU at #14 gives Cincy nothing. It's all risk for Cincy and no reward.

Correct ND or Clemson needs to have 2 losses...If they both have 1 it essentially eliminates Cinci and I don't see ND beating Clemson again with Lawrence.

If Auburn doesn't beat A&M it doesn't help for them to beat Alabama...The issue is A&M not going to the championship and staying at 1 loss.

No it doesn't. But I addressed it in the other thread so go there. Cincy is in the catbird seat right now needing only to win out and one or perhaps two things to fall their way.

How does Cinci move ahead of a team whose only lost is to a top 3 team.

If A&M and Clemson are ahead of Cinci with 1 loss to top 4 teams...Why wouldn't ND be ahead of Cinci with 1 loss to a top 4 team.

(11-24-2020 09:47 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 09:43 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 09:39 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 08:06 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 07:56 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Sounds like a plan...

But Notre Dame or Clemson has to have 2 losses

Alabama has to win out...Eliminating Florida

Any 1 loss champion in the Big is getting in.

That puts Cinci at 5...Behind Texas A&M...That game may be able to overcome Texas A&M

ND beating Clemson again will put them out.

Alabama beating Florida puts them out.

Auburn beating Alabama or Texas AnM or both.

This is all very likely. BYU at #14 gives Cincy nothing. It's all risk for Cincy and no reward.

Correct ND or Clemson needs to have 2 losses...If they both have 1 it essentially eliminates Cinci and I don't see ND beating Clemson again with Lawrence.

If Auburn doesn't beat A&M it doesn't help for them to beat Alabama...The issue is A&M not going to the championship and staying at 1 loss.

No it doesn't. But I addressed it in the other thread so go there. Cincy is in the catbird seat right now needing only to win out and one or perhaps two things to fall their way.

How does Cinci move ahead of a team whose only lost is to a top 3 team.

If A&M is ahead of Cinci with 1 loss...Why wouldn't ND be ahead of Cinci with 1 loss.

Other thread I ran it all the way down for you including a 1 loss Miami who lost to Clemson at Clemson. Look at a two loss Georgia ranking, the SEC bias is pretty clear.

(11-24-2020 09:49 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 09:47 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 09:43 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 09:39 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 08:06 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  ND beating Clemson again will put them out.

Alabama beating Florida puts them out.

Auburn beating Alabama or Texas AnM or both.

This is all very likely. BYU at #14 gives Cincy nothing. It's all risk for Cincy and no reward.

Correct ND or Clemson needs to have 2 losses...If they both have 1 it essentially eliminates Cinci and I don't see ND beating Clemson again with Lawrence.

If Auburn doesn't beat A&M it doesn't help for them to beat Alabama...The issue is A&M not going to the championship and staying at 1 loss.

No it doesn't. But I addressed it in the other thread so go there. Cincy is in the catbird seat right now needing only to win out and one or perhaps two things to fall their way.

How does Cinci move ahead of a team whose only lost is to a top 3 team.

If A&M is ahead of Cinci with 1 loss...Why wouldn't ND be ahead of Cinci with 1 loss.

Other thread I ran it all the way down for you including a 1 loss Miami who lost to Clemson at Clemson. Look at a two loss Georgia ranking, the SEC bias is pretty clear.

1 Loss Miami doesn't have a win over a top 4 team. They are not going to discount that win to move Cinci into the spot...It is freaking Notre Dame.

Georgia's 2 losses are to top 5 teams...Seems like they don't really care much if you lose to highly ranked teams.

Miami played 1 ranked team and lost by 25...

Cinci likely finishes the year with 0 games against teams in the CFP rankings if they run the table...They would have handed Tulsa 2 losses pushing them out of the rankings.

Cinci needs a lot of help right now.

(11-22-2020 03:32 PM)B easy Wrote:  Call me nuts but I think such a victory at the end of the season could catapult Cincy past a 1-loss Texas A&M if they don't play in the SEC championship game or a 1-loss ND if they lose by a few scores in the ACC championship game to a healthy Clemson.

https://yarn.co/yarn-clip/f8e98c87-0520-...128f087d76

Bingo. With Cincy already at 7th, 2 wins over #25 Tulsa & one over #14 BYU, all in succession, in convincing fashion no less, may do the trick. Personally, I think Cincy would win all 3 games going away by at least 2 TDs but likely more.

(11-24-2020 09:39 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 08:06 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 07:56 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Sounds like a plan...

But Notre Dame or Clemson has to have 2 losses

Alabama has to win out...Eliminating Florida

Any 1 loss champion in the Big is getting in.

That puts Cinci at 5...Behind Texas A&M...That game may be able to overcome Texas A&M

ND beating Clemson again will put them out.

Alabama beating Florida puts them out.

Auburn beating Alabama or Texas AnM or both.

This is all very likely. BYU at #14 gives Cincy nothing. It's all risk for Cincy and no reward.

Correct ND or Clemson needs to have 2 losses...If they both have 1 it essentially eliminates Cinci and I don't see ND beating Clemson again with Lawrence.

If Auburn doesn't beat A&M it doesn't help for them to beat Alabama...The issue is A&M not going to the championship game and staying at 1 loss.

So it does help if A&M is 4 and Cinci is 5...Because without BYU Cinci likely has 0 wins in the CFP rankings when it is said and done...Just like it would be tough to exclude ND or Clemson with their only losses being to top 4 teams it would be tough to exclude A&M with their only loss being to a top 4 team.

Bottom line is if they cant beat BYU they don't deserve a shot.

Agreed & again I think they would beat BYU easily.

(11-24-2020 10:29 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 09:39 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 08:06 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 07:56 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Sounds like a plan...

But Notre Dame or Clemson has to have 2 losses

Alabama has to win out...Eliminating Florida

Any 1 loss champion in the Big is getting in.

That puts Cinci at 5...Behind Texas A&M...That game may be able to overcome Texas A&M

ND beating Clemson again will put them out.

Alabama beating Florida puts them out.

Auburn beating Alabama or Texas AnM or both.

This is all very likely. BYU at #14 gives Cincy nothing. It's all risk for Cincy and no reward.

Correct ND or Clemson needs to have 2 losses...If they both have 1 it essentially eliminates Cinci and I don't see ND beating Clemson again with Lawrence.

If Auburn doesn't beat A&M it doesn't help for them to beat Alabama...The issue is A&M not going to the championship game and staying at 1 loss.

So it does help if A&M is 4 and Cinci is 5...Because without BYU Cinci likely has 0 wins in the CFP rankings when it is said and done...Just like it would be tough to exclude ND or Clemson with their only losses being to top 4 teams it would be tough to exclude A&M with their only loss being to a top 4 team.

Bottom line is if they cant beat BYU they don't deserve a shot.

Agreed & again I think they would beat BYU easily.

Beating BYU does nothing, zero, for Cincy. BYU losing to Cincy means they are likely out of the poll. They were treated like their CUSA schedule dictates with credit for Houston and Navy.

BYU will fall in the rankings as the PAC gets more games in and other p5 teams get their match ups. BYU is toast. They don't want to be part of the AAC and aren't in a position to offer anything.

SMU is the best team they can hope to get a game with since the PAC can back out any time OOC.

Both SMU and Memphis are likely to climb into the rankings if they finish winning out.

(11-24-2020 08:47 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2020 08:44 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  This is a very good scenario for Cincinnati and the American. Cincinnati within striking distance of the playoff and BYU not in the picture should be a strong nudge for BYU to re-think joining the American. It really would be the best move for them and the conference.

That Cincy has done this all on the AAC schedule no p5 help is the biggest selling point.

Yep. How far we have come and it’s because most of our programs have made moves to field competitive programs.


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(11-24-2020 08:48 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  BYU is 14. We're 7.

Now what do we have to gain by playing them again?

Nothing


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(11-24-2020 10:25 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(11-22-2020 03:32 PM)B easy Wrote:  Call me nuts but I think such a victory at the end of the season could catapult Cincy past a 1-loss Texas A&M if they don't play in the SEC championship game or a 1-loss ND if they lose by a few scores in the ACC championship game to a healthy Clemson.

https://yarn.co/yarn-clip/f8e98c87-0520-...128f087d76

Bingo. With Cincy already at 7th, 2 wins over #25 Tulsa & one over #14 BYU, all in succession, in convincing fashion no less, may do the trick. Personally, I think Cincy would win all 3 games going away by at least 2 TDs but likely more.

BYU is going to keep dropping. Cincy playing them means nothing. It only benefits BYU. Basically, they would use us to propel themselves.....the same conference they look down on. F’em.


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