(12-17-2020 04:01 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(12-17-2020 03:02 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-17-2020 02:08 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  This is a post from one of our mods, who is a professor at FGCU:

First, Aresco is making a completely valid point about what's happened with the playoff committee: they are just eyeballing the rankings now, with no regard to computer rankings at all, so that confirmation bias and group think can settle in. It's amplified, too, by the paucity of OOC games among the P5 programs and the incredible discrepancy in the number of games played. Thus, the manuevering to keep the P5 teams ahead of Cincy and leaving Coastal Carolina cap at #12 (despite having 2 wins over top 20 programs) is all the more blatant. Aresco has not let up one iota in his championing of the American.

I totally agree with Rafter about Tromp's move to bring in a new AD. I think Aspey's fate was sealed in his rather milquetoast response to Harsin's letter by saying the door got slammed in his face by the WCC commissioner and not getting a call back from the Big West (I assume) commissioner. Honestly, the first call should have been to Aresco--yes, it's not up to Boise State to get an invite, but you won't get one if you don't let the other party know you're available. The American might be very open to getting BYU, Boise State, SDSU (and a fourth school) in the mix to build a national superconference that would routinely have four teams in the top 25. Aspey's meek outreach certainly wasn't going to get the job done.


https://247sports.com/college/boise-stat...157126649/

Oh look another random poster comment from another board, dragged over here to say the same thing we just got rid of.

Boise is stuck, don't worry they aren't going anywhere but Independence. Quite clear how other conferences view them as a problem child with the whole mess they created with MW. Now whether Boise goes independent by choice or is forced out will be the thing to watch. It seems pretty clear the other MW programs are done with this nonsense and will be even more done with it in five years.

Or the guy that actually started this thread, but carry on with your unnecessary combativeness.

I know you are the king of cherry picking, but this is world elite stuff.

I know you are the guy who started the thread, from a random post on another board.

I know you are the guy who just copied a post from yet another random board and posted it here.

My point being why? What sort of value does some random post on a random board that people here don't go to, add, especially over a subject we have already covered here. Why not just make your own post saying the same thing?

Are you by any chance trying to up traffic on those boards
Are you just doing your ususal schtick and hoping no one will notice
Are you actually just desperate to keep this going and incapable of original comments

(12-17-2020 03:45 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(12-17-2020 03:02 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-17-2020 02:08 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  This is a post from one of our mods, who is a professor at FGCU:

First, Aresco is making a completely valid point about what's happened with the playoff committee: they are just eyeballing the rankings now, with no regard to computer rankings at all, so that confirmation bias and group think can settle in. It's amplified, too, by the paucity of OOC games among the P5 programs and the incredible discrepancy in the number of games played. Thus, the manuevering to keep the P5 teams ahead of Cincy and leaving Coastal Carolina cap at #12 (despite having 2 wins over top 20 programs) is all the more blatant. Aresco has not let up one iota in his championing of the American.

I totally agree with Rafter about Tromp's move to bring in a new AD. I think Aspey's fate was sealed in his rather milquetoast response to Harsin's letter by saying the door got slammed in his face by the WCC commissioner and not getting a call back from the Big West (I assume) commissioner. Honestly, the first call should have been to Aresco--yes, it's not up to Boise State to get an invite, but you won't get one if you don't let the other party know you're available. The American might be very open to getting BYU, Boise State, SDSU (and a fourth school) in the mix to build a national superconference that would routinely have four teams in the top 25. Aspey's meek outreach certainly wasn't going to get the job done.


https://247sports.com/college/boise-stat...157126649/

Oh look another random poster comment from another board, dragged over here to say the same thing we just got rid of.

Boise is stuck, don't worry they aren't going anywhere but Independence. Quite clear how other conferences view them as a problem child with the whole mess they created with MW. Now whether Boise goes independent by choice or is forced out will be the thing to watch. It seems pretty clear the other MW programs are done with this nonsense and will be even more done with it in five years.

Boise is one of the few schools our conference will listen to. Don't know if we can ever work out a deal, but Aresco will absolutely answer the call. That is from personal discussions with AD staff from several AAC institutions.

It appears the Big West and several other conferences are smarter than we are. Meaning it seems it won't be AAC presidents making the call. Of course Boise would have to get the ADs to tag along with first before the presidents, which I am still a skeptic about given the amount of dirt that turns up every time they deal with the MW.

I know what has been said and I don't doubt that some are trying to make it work. I just don't think you can fit a hexagon into a triangle no matter what you do. No one wants Boise's other sports and the hassles that come with them. Football is the only thing that makes that school valuable and not more pain then reward, but I don't think that is true even with football.

The school has slipped quite a ways under Harrison and will continue with him there or if he leaves. They're the equivalent to kidney stones for a conference, sure everything might be going great, than bam, you're hunched over in pain no damn idea why.

(12-02-2020 12:52 AM)mikeinoki Wrote:  I poke my head in here about once a week to see what time Boise is arriving.

(12-17-2020 07:42 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-17-2020 04:01 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(12-17-2020 03:02 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-17-2020 02:08 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  This is a post from one of our mods, who is a professor at FGCU:

First, Aresco is making a completely valid point about what's happened with the playoff committee: they are just eyeballing the rankings now, with no regard to computer rankings at all, so that confirmation bias and group think can settle in. It's amplified, too, by the paucity of OOC games among the P5 programs and the incredible discrepancy in the number of games played. Thus, the manuevering to keep the P5 teams ahead of Cincy and leaving Coastal Carolina cap at #12 (despite having 2 wins over top 20 programs) is all the more blatant. Aresco has not let up one iota in his championing of the American.

I totally agree with Rafter about Tromp's move to bring in a new AD. I think Aspey's fate was sealed in his rather milquetoast response to Harsin's letter by saying the door got slammed in his face by the WCC commissioner and not getting a call back from the Big West (I assume) commissioner. Honestly, the first call should have been to Aresco--yes, it's not up to Boise State to get an invite, but you won't get one if you don't let the other party know you're available. The American might be very open to getting BYU, Boise State, SDSU (and a fourth school) in the mix to build a national superconference that would routinely have four teams in the top 25. Aspey's meek outreach certainly wasn't going to get the job done.


https://247sports.com/college/boise-stat...157126649/

Oh look another random poster comment from another board, dragged over here to say the same thing we just got rid of.

Boise is stuck, don't worry they aren't going anywhere but Independence. Quite clear how other conferences view them as a problem child with the whole mess they created with MW. Now whether Boise goes independent by choice or is forced out will be the thing to watch. It seems pretty clear the other MW programs are done with this nonsense and will be even more done with it in five years.

Or the guy that actually started this thread, but carry on with your unnecessary combativeness.

I know you are the king of cherry picking, but this is world elite stuff.

I know you are the guy who started the thread, from a random post on another board.

I know you are the guy who just copied a post from yet another random board and posted it here.

My point being why? What sort of value does some random post on a random board that people here don't go to, add, especially over a subject we have already covered here. Why not just make your own post saying the same thing?

Are you by any chance trying to up traffic on those boards
Are you just doing your ususal schtick and hoping no one will notice
Are you actually just desperate to keep this going and incapable of original comments

Dude, seriously? you're just....weird. Have a good night.

(12-17-2020 03:45 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(12-17-2020 03:02 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-17-2020 02:08 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  This is a post from one of our mods, who is a professor at FGCU:

First, Aresco is making a completely valid point about what's happened with the playoff committee: they are just eyeballing the rankings now, with no regard to computer rankings at all, so that confirmation bias and group think can settle in. It's amplified, too, by the paucity of OOC games among the P5 programs and the incredible discrepancy in the number of games played. Thus, the manuevering to keep the P5 teams ahead of Cincy and leaving Coastal Carolina cap at #12 (despite having 2 wins over top 20 programs) is all the more blatant. Aresco has not let up one iota in his championing of the American.

I totally agree with Rafter about Tromp's move to bring in a new AD. I think Aspey's fate was sealed in his rather milquetoast response to Harsin's letter by saying the door got slammed in his face by the WCC commissioner and not getting a call back from the Big West (I assume) commissioner. Honestly, the first call should have been to Aresco--yes, it's not up to Boise State to get an invite, but you won't get one if you don't let the other party know you're available. The American might be very open to getting BYU, Boise State, SDSU (and a fourth school) in the mix to build a national superconference that would routinely have four teams in the top 25. Aspey's meek outreach certainly wasn't going to get the job done.


https://247sports.com/college/boise-stat...157126649/

Oh look another random poster comment from another board, dragged over here to say the same thing we just got rid of.

Boise is stuck, don't worry they aren't going anywhere but Independence. Quite clear how other conferences view them as a problem child with the whole mess they created with MW. Now whether Boise goes independent by choice or is forced out will be the thing to watch. It seems pretty clear the other MW programs are done with this nonsense and will be even more done with it in five years.

Boise is one of the few schools our conference will listen to. Don't know if we can ever work out a deal, but Aresco will absolutely answer the call. That is from personal discussions with AD staff from several AAC institutions.

Yep...he’s not wrong in the thought.


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(12-17-2020 02:13 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  A conference with Cinci, UCF, Memphis, Houston, Navy, BYU, Boise, and SDSU is better than the PAC and the Big12.

...you left out two of the best current FB programs in the conference: Tulsa & SMU

(12-17-2020 11:23 PM)mikeinoki Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 12:52 AM)mikeinoki Wrote:  I poke my head in here about once a week to see what time Boise is arriving.

Announcement on Tuesday

Screw Boise, can we get SJSU?

(12-19-2020 05:44 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  Screw Boise, can we get SJSU?

That’s who I want.
Damn good team

They edited Aresco’s quote where he said G4

No thanks. BSU is living in the past.

(12-19-2020 08:47 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  They edited Aresco’s quote where he said G4

Where? Cuz he said it...

At this point Boise State would be similar to CUSA adding Marshall back in the day. BYU or bust.

@BJRains
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BREAKING: New emails show Boise State engaged the American Athletic Conference earlier this fall about joining the league.

Behind the scenes work has been going on about a potential move.

@TheIdahoPressand @BoiseDev
with the exclusive details:

https://www.idahopress.com/blueturfsport...6101e.html

Idaho Press and Boise Dev got another FOIA release indicating there WERE Boise-AAC talks.

https://www.idahopress.com/blueturfsport...6101e.html

Of note: “Brad, at this point the AAC has told Dr. (Marlene) Tromp they are only interested in football. I would think that mindset would change if there were other schools in the West up for consideration which I think will eventually happen. Still talking to the president, the AAC and the Big West. Conversations are ongoing.”

Boise football only is one of the few value adding options on the board. Boise played for the MW championship---in a down year. Good brand name. Good fan base. Bring good ratings---and allows the AAC to offer a handful of late night starts that would be very attractive to networks. Pair them with VCU on the basktball side---and I would say would be a substantially better league after replacing UConn than we were prior to UConn's exit. Thats good---realignment moves where both parties end up winning are relatively rare.

The question is... would BYU now be more interested in joining?

Here's the money line---and its MUCH more than I would have expected, especially considering that Boise has a special premium revenue split worked out with the MW.

"In all Larrondo sees the potential for an “increased revenue impact resulting from a move to the AAC” of $10.5 million.

Thats if they join for all-sports. Their estimate is that travel costs go up 1 million and the net increase in revenue after increased costs are subtracted would be 10.5 million.


https://www.idahopress.com/blueturfsport...6101e.html

It also was worth noting that the emails indicate that the AAC was not currently talking with any other teams about joining per one of the emails--which is good to hear.

With the AAC currently only interested in adding Boise State’s football program according to Apsey’s email, the Broncos would need to find a home for the other sports in a different conference to make it work.

@ChrisVannini
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Aresco didn't want to talk about Boise but said:

"Down the road, we have said that we might want to get to 12 if somebody has interest in us, who we think makes sense for the branding of the conference. But right now, any talk of expansion has been totally on the backburner."

"On Aug. 28 Larrondo emailed Apsey a document titled “Athletics 2020 and Beyond.” The four page memo outlined what was working for the department, goals, challenges and obstacles, and “where should we focus our efforts to advance the programs.”

At the top of the list? Leaving the Mountain West.

“Evaluate best conference placement for football program under current FBS football model with a move to the American Athletic Conference being the top priority,” Larrondo’s memo noted. "


. . . TOP PRIORITY . . .


They discuss that making the AAC a true P6 with access to a expanded playoff, annual NY6 bowl and then Increased Revenue TV revenue that would follow as their best course of action. Sounds good to me