(11-03-2020 10:43 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 10:31 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 10:12 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 10:01 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  But far simpler to label any 'Trump Truck' as 'intimidation', and then directly equate that to ISIS. I still find your defense of labeling Trump trucks as a direct comparison to ISIS as incredibly reprehensible. And short-sighted to boot.

First time I said anything about intimidation:

Quote:Ah yes, having disdain for people who are trying to physically intimidate their political rivals, by surrounding their vehicles and causing them to slow down to 20 mph on a highway is a really awful position to have.

Please tell me where I labeled any "Trump Truck" as intimidation. Looks like I'm pretty specific there, sparky.

And the question still stands, son, what is so 'intimidating' about the San Marcos *before* the Biden driven hit the Trump driver?

Once again, I will type real slow -- the Trump Convoy surrounding the Biden is truly aggravating. *You* are the one jumping that immediately into political intimidation with that post of yours that you quote so proudly there.

And once again --proud about the direct comparison of Trump Trucks to ISIS? Feel proud about that, lad? Give you a nice tingly sensation in your leg about that?

You don't think surrounding the vehicles and then decreasing speeds significantly (down to ~20 mph) is intimidating?

Not really, no. It is absolutely harassment -- no doubt. Highly aggravating. But, hate to tell you, not the smartest move in the world to do a Biden bus through the New Braunfels - San Marcos - Kyle - Buda corridor.

But leave it to you all to gin it up to 'intimidating'. I have said this again and again -- words matter. Intimidating "having a frightening, or threatening effect."

Given the 'deplorables' world that you seemingly subscribe to with your use and entrenched defense of the comparison of Trump flag bearing yahoo trucks to ISIS, perhaps I can see that sophomoric act rising to 'frightening or threatening' in that worldview.

I look at it as a dumb*** counterpoint move to a really fing stupid move by the Texas Biden corps to roll a bus straight through the heart of red Texas.

And for the fourth time or so -- proud about the direct comparison of Trump Trucks to ISIS? Feel proud about that, lad? Give you a nice tingly sensation in your leg about that?

Added: the 'Biden' convoy may have *become* intimidating subsequent to the Biden SUV hitting the Trump truck initially, and may have become more intimidating after the return 'swipe and hit'.

But, ponder that progression a spell there, lad.

And to repeat: --proud about the direct comparison of Trump Trucks to ISIS? Feel bigly good about that, lad? Give you a nice tingly sensation in your leg, perhaps?

(11-03-2020 10:43 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  You don't think surrounding the vehicles and then decreasing speeds significantly (down to ~20 mph) is intimidating?

No. I'd see it as an incredible nuisance, like those who hold hands across streets and freeways. Shall I show you the dozens of times THAT has occurred? I'd see it as a potential public safety issue related to emergency vehicles... like the ones who did it around hospitals in San Fran.

It's certainly not as intimidating as being pulled out of a car and beaten, only stopping when you realize that a) you're being recorded and b) the guy is handicapped.

Certainly not as intimidating as having fires set, windows broken, things stolen, being threatened with physical harm for videoing by local vigilantes... having your car STOPPED and beaten on by crowds.... having people break down your community gate and trod through your lawn wearing EYE covering masks (meant to conceal identities and not for 'safety')

Even the 'mad max' driving, I've had people do that to me for not reacting quickly enough to a green light, for not turning right on red when they think I could, for going 5 miles under the 'maximum' speed limit in the right lane... or ONLY doing 10MPH OVER it in the left. Meanwhile, I've had people damage my neighbor's home (he has a Trump sign out front) and a friends car (he has a Trump sticker).. so I don't put ANY political stickers on my vehicle or in my yard even though its my right to. How is THAT not intimidation? I mean, it ACTUALLY stops me from exercising my right of expression out of fear of being targeted. The guy in the car might be scared, but he CLEARLY isn't being intimidated out of exercising his rights, since he clearly exercises his rights to 'push back' (if that is your belief of what happened).... and the caravan isn't designed to stop people from reaching voting polls.

It's harassment... It's a nuisance... like guys stepping in front of cars to stop them, its also potentially dangerous. Intimidation? Please. You've repeatedly turned a blind eye to ACTUAL intimidation as being their right to protest.

I came in here to see everyone's election predictions and instead found a bunch of monkeys throwing poop at each other!

I think Biden will win pretty big and I generally believe that polling is more science than mystical arts or wizardry. I think Biden recovers the upper midwest states (PA, WI, MI) and also wins the sunbelt states of GA, NC, and AZ. Trump holds IA and OH. I am most curious about TX and FL. The sheer number of non-2016 voters in those states make it much harder to predict what will happen. I guess I will hold onto my optimism and predict Biden wins in both (in TX because of new voters, in FL based on the polls). I think that puts it at 389-149.

Dems win the Senate pretty easily if my presidential predictions are even remotely close to true. Dems lose AL, but gain CO, AZ, ME, NC, and MT. Both GA seats go to runoffs (I think the Libertarian keeps both Ossoff and Perdue below 50%) and Dems ultimately win both. Republicans hold the seats in SC, AK, TX, and IA. I think Graham will win SC by more than expected based on the polls, while Alaska, Iowa, and Montana will all be quite close. I think that leaves the Dems with a 53-47 advantage.

Dems gain about 10 seats in the House.

Not looking to fight with anyone or throw poop, just throwing my predictions out there for posterity (or hilarity). If you want to laugh at me, fine. But please don't make it personal, make it evidence-based.

(11-03-2020 11:20 AM)mrbig Wrote:  I came in here to see everyone's election predictions and instead found a bunch of monkeys throwing poop at each other!

I think Biden will win pretty big and I generally believe that polling is more science than mystical arts or wizardry. I think Biden recovers the upper midwest states (PA, WI, MI) and also wins the sunbelt states of GA, NC, and AZ. Trump holds IA and OH. I am most curious about TX and FL. The sheer number of non-2016 voters in those states make it much harder to predict what will happen. I guess I will hold onto my optimism and predict Biden wins in both (in TX because of new voters, in FL based on the polls). I think that puts it at 389-149.

Dems win the Senate pretty easily if my presidential predictions are even remotely close to true. Dems lose AL, but gain CO, AZ, ME, NC, and MT. Both GA seats go to runoffs (I think the Libertarian keeps both Ossoff and Perdue below 50%) and Dems ultimately win both. Republicans hold the seats in SC, AK, TX, and IA. I think Graham will win SC by more than expected based on the polls, while Alaska, Iowa, and Montana will all be quite close. I think that leaves the Dems with a 53-47 advantage.

Dems gain about 10 seats in the House.

Not looking to fight with anyone or throw poop, just throwing my predictions out there for posterity (or hilarity). If you want to laugh at me, fine. But please don't make it personal, make it evidence-based.

Nothing there to 'throw poop' at, sir.

I see a decent basis for your predictions -- and I see a basis for a 51-49 Republican Senate as well. I truly do not know where this one will go, nor do I feel comfortable stating which way it would go.

I would have subscribed to your Presidential prognostication as pretty well within reason up until about 10 days ago. Trump has really closed gaps in swing states in the last 10 days, especially in the spot polls from two days ago and newer.

In one sense, there is a reason for hope in Biden landslide -- the singular fact that violence and protests over an election issue will be at its minimum with that.

If there is a narrow or contested Biden win, there will be large protests.

If Trump does the 99th percentile and moves the swing states and generates a 10+ electoral win (and he *will* lose the popular), at a minimum there will be protests that would *dwarf* those from 2016 --- it just seemingly goes with whatever the battleground de jure that is lost in the progressive realm generates at the very least such massive protests.

The really bad result is a narrow Trump electoral victory -- that would automatically trigger lawsuits galore, and to top it off I would expect pretty widespread violence with that. Just look at the summer and Portland. And, the main reason is that it is 2020.

Hopefully with the last three, if the predicates occur, I am wrong. But with any Trump win I dont see any civility in the process in any way, shape, or form. Again, I hope I am wrong if that predicate occurs.

I think this one covers it spot on:

"The Democrats stay quiet when businesses were burned down, vandals vandalized & looting/stealing, with injuries and death. But when trucks with flags escorting out the Biden bus out of Texas, they go nuts with indignation. It’s laughable if not so absurd."

(11-03-2020 11:43 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I truly do not know where this one will go, nor do I feel comfortable stating which way it would go.

Neither do I ... which is exactly why I forced myself to do it and to publish it! I could be totally wrong.

(11-03-2020 11:43 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I would have subscribed to your Presidential prognostication as pretty well within reason up until about 10 days ago. Trump has really closed gaps in swing states in the last 10 days, especially in the spot polls from two days ago and newer.

Not sure I agree, lots of polls, but hard to sort out which ones are from high quality polling outlets. Even when Trump has been going up slightly in some polls, Biden has stuck around 50% in a lot of the swing state polls. PA is a good example, maybe Trump has gone from a lot of 40-42% polls to a lot of 43-45% polls, but if Biden has remained above 50% throughout, it doesn't matter for the result.

(11-03-2020 11:43 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Hopefully with the last three, if the predicates occur, I am wrong. But with any Trump win I dont see any civility in the process in any way, shape, or form. Again, I hope I am wrong if that predicate occurs.

I do think a blowout for either side is best for the country. It gives the President a clear mandate moving forward and avoids the kind of drawn-out litigation and hand-wringing that could lead to violence. It is just hard to imagine a Trump blowout based on the polling. Hopefully whichever side loses will start organizing and planning to win in 2022 and 2024.

(11-03-2020 11:49 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I think this one covers it spot on:

"The Democrats stay quiet when businesses were burned down, vandals vandalized & looting/stealing, with injuries and death. But when trucks with flags escorting out the Biden bus out of Texas, they go nuts with indignation. It’s laughable if not so absurd."

Republicans stay quiet or support Trump when he mocks his opponents and calls them names. But when they get called names or are mocked, they go nuts with indignation. It's laughable if not so absurd.

(11-03-2020 12:11 PM)mrbig Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 11:43 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I truly do not know where this one will go, nor do I feel comfortable stating which way it would go.

Neither do I ... which is exactly why I forced myself to do it and to publish it! I could be totally wrong.

(11-03-2020 11:43 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I would have subscribed to your Presidential prognostication as pretty well within reason up until about 10 days ago. Trump has really closed gaps in swing states in the last 10 days, especially in the spot polls from two days ago and newer.

Not sure I agree, lots of polls, but hard to sort out which ones are from high quality polling outlets. Even when Trump has been going up slightly in some polls, Biden has stuck around 50% in a lot of the swing state polls. PA is a good example, maybe Trump has gone from a lot of 40-42% polls to a lot of 43-45% polls, but if Biden has remained above 50% throughout, it doesn't matter for the result.

(11-03-2020 11:43 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Hopefully with the last three, if the predicates occur, I am wrong. But with any Trump win I dont see any civility in the process in any way, shape, or form. Again, I hope I am wrong if that predicate occurs.

I do think a blowout for either side is best for the country. It gives the President a clear mandate moving forward and avoids the kind of drawn-out litigation and hand-wringing that could lead to violence. It is just hard to imagine a Trump blowout based on the polling. Hopefully whichever side loses will start organizing and planning to win in 2022 and 2024.

Agreed on the last point. An electroral AND popular vote landslide makes the election results pretty clear.

I'm really interested to see what comes of all the early voting numbers throughout Texas.

(11-03-2020 12:32 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 11:49 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I think this one covers it spot on:

"The Democrats stay quiet when businesses were burned down, vandals vandalized & looting/stealing, with injuries and death. But when trucks with flags escorting out the Biden bus out of Texas, they go nuts with indignation. It’s laughable if not so absurd."

Republicans stay quiet or support Trump when he mocks his opponents and calls them names. But when they get called names or are mocked, they go nuts with indignation. It's laughable if not so absurd.

I'm trying to figure out why the Biden bus needed to be "escorted out of Texas". Or why it is problematic to have a campaign bus drive down the highway of central Texas. There are no Biden supporters in the Hill Country? I've been there a bit over the past few months and have been surprised by the number of Biden/Harris signs that I've seen.

(11-03-2020 12:32 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 11:49 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I think this one covers it spot on:

"The Democrats stay quiet when businesses were burned down, vandals vandalized & looting/stealing, with injuries and death. But when trucks with flags escorting out the Biden bus out of Texas, they go nuts with indignation. It’s laughable if not so absurd."

Republicans stay quiet or support Trump when he mocks his opponents and calls them names. But when they get called names or are mocked, they go nuts with indignation. It's laughable if not so absurd.

What the beejesus does *that* aside have to do with the issue about the Biden bus? Good grief you are hitting the unhinged random tossouts kind of furiously today.

I guess you find it perfectly acceptable to label a group of people as directly comparable to ISIS. Kind of stupid, and kind of grotesque.

But yet you keep pounding that trash can and refuse to label what it is. Go take some doggie downers and actually look at that comparison. 4 years ago you noted that Hillary calling segments of people 'deplorable' was not really proper.

Now -- well now you: a) have zero issue with a comparison with a murderous group of terrorists; b) seemingly steadfastly defend that comparison; c) have made that comparison directly; and d) seemingly support and promote that comparison. Otay...... Holy krist you have gone off the cliff on this one... you really should have cut bait and said 'well that is over the top, and in really bad taste', but you keep doubling down and doubling down and doubling down...

Again, they really need a head slap emoji in this bulletin board.

(11-03-2020 12:36 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 12:32 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 11:49 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I think this one covers it spot on:

"The Democrats stay quiet when businesses were burned down, vandals vandalized & looting/stealing, with injuries and death. But when trucks with flags escorting out the Biden bus out of Texas, they go nuts with indignation. It’s laughable if not so absurd."

Republicans stay quiet or support Trump when he mocks his opponents and calls them names. But when they get called names or are mocked, they go nuts with indignation. It's laughable if not so absurd.

I'm trying to figure out why the Biden bus needed to be "escorted out of Texas". Or why it is problematic to have a campaign bus drive down the highway of central Texas. There are no Biden supporters in the Hill Country? I've been there a bit over the past few months and have been surprised by the number of Biden/Harris signs that I've seen.

Why dont you call up the Houston Chronicle editor and find out for us? She is the one that tweeted that. Or sit here and make airy pontifications.

And aside from the Austin spillover, the Biden support in the Hill Country is rather sparse. I have spent a huge amount of time in the area lately.

(11-03-2020 01:07 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 12:32 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 11:49 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I think this one covers it spot on:

"The Democrats stay quiet when businesses were burned down, vandals vandalized & looting/stealing, with injuries and death. But when trucks with flags escorting out the Biden bus out of Texas, they go nuts with indignation. It’s laughable if not so absurd."

Republicans stay quiet or support Trump when he mocks his opponents and calls them names. But when they get called names or are mocked, they go nuts with indignation. It's laughable if not so absurd.

What the beejesus does *that* aside have to do with the issue about the Biden bus? Good grief you are hitting the unhinged random tossouts kind of furiously today.

I guess you find it perfectly acceptable to label a group of people as directly comparable to ISIS. Kind of stupid, and kind of grotesque.

But yet you keep pounding that trash can and refuse to label what it is. Go take some doggie downers and actually look at that comparison. 4 years ago you noted that Hillary calling segments of people 'deplorable' was not really proper.

Now -- well now you: a) have zero issue with a comparison with a murderous group of terrorists; b) seemingly steadfastly defend that comparison; c) have made that comparison directly; and d) seemingly support and promote that comparison. Otay...... Holy krist you have gone off the cliff on this one... you really should have cut bait and said 'well that is over the top, and in really bad taste', but you keep doubling down and doubling down and doubling down...

Again, they really need a head slap emoji in this bulletin board.

Remember when OO recently said that left wingers would look the other way if Biden molested children and you went crazy? You really let him have it for saying something in such incredibly poor taste. I think that he has yet to recover from your severe scolding. That was awesome.

(11-03-2020 01:10 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 12:36 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 12:32 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 11:49 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I think this one covers it spot on:

"The Democrats stay quiet when businesses were burned down, vandals vandalized & looting/stealing, with injuries and death. But when trucks with flags escorting out the Biden bus out of Texas, they go nuts with indignation. It’s laughable if not so absurd."

Republicans stay quiet or support Trump when he mocks his opponents and calls them names. But when they get called names or are mocked, they go nuts with indignation. It's laughable if not so absurd.

I'm trying to figure out why the Biden bus needed to be "escorted out of Texas". Or why it is problematic to have a campaign bus drive down the highway of central Texas. There are no Biden supporters in the Hill Country? I've been there a bit over the past few months and have been surprised by the number of Biden/Harris signs that I've seen.

Why dont you call up the Houston Chronicle editor and find out for us? She is the one that tweeted that. Or sit here and make airy pontifications.

AFAIK, you were the one that suggested it was a bad idea for the Biden bus to be in that area, not the Houston Chronicle.

(11-03-2020 01:14 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 01:10 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 12:36 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 12:32 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 11:49 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I think this one covers it spot on:

"The Democrats stay quiet when businesses were burned down, vandals vandalized & looting/stealing, with injuries and death. But when trucks with flags escorting out the Biden bus out of Texas, they go nuts with indignation. It’s laughable if not so absurd."

Republicans stay quiet or support Trump when he mocks his opponents and calls them names. But when they get called names or are mocked, they go nuts with indignation. It's laughable if not so absurd.

I'm trying to figure out why the Biden bus needed to be "escorted out of Texas". Or why it is problematic to have a campaign bus drive down the highway of central Texas. There are no Biden supporters in the Hill Country? I've been there a bit over the past few months and have been surprised by the number of Biden/Harris signs that I've seen.

Why dont you call up the Houston Chronicle editor and find out for us? She is the one that tweeted that. Or sit here and make airy pontifications.

AFAIK, you were the one that suggested it was a bad idea for the Biden bus to be in that area, not the Houston Chronicle.

Funny, I was responding to your direct quote of the quote I posted.

I have no effing clue why that editor noted the 'escorted out' language, nor do I pretend to know.

I will say that it really isnt a bright idea to roll a Biden campaign bus through a deeply red part of the state; kind of like why I wouldnt advise wearing a Trump MAGA hat in downtown Austin --- come to think of it, pretty much the same reason why I *specifically* dont wear my mask of the US flag anywhere much in Austin.

Funny that.

So instead of the slow, roll of pontificating, seems simple to me -- call her up and find out. Tell us what you learn.

(11-03-2020 02:02 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 01:14 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 01:10 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 12:36 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 12:32 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Republicans stay quiet or support Trump when he mocks his opponents and calls them names. But when they get called names or are mocked, they go nuts with indignation. It's laughable if not so absurd.

I'm trying to figure out why the Biden bus needed to be "escorted out of Texas". Or why it is problematic to have a campaign bus drive down the highway of central Texas. There are no Biden supporters in the Hill Country? I've been there a bit over the past few months and have been surprised by the number of Biden/Harris signs that I've seen.

Why dont you call up the Houston Chronicle editor and find out for us? She is the one that tweeted that. Or sit here and make airy pontifications.

AFAIK, you were the one that suggested it was a bad idea for the Biden bus to be in that area, not the Houston Chronicle.

Funny, I was responding to your direct quote of the quote I posted.

I have no effing clue why that editor noted the 'escorted out' language, nor do I pretend to know.

I will say that it really isnt a bright idea to roll a Biden campaign bus through a deeply red part of the state; kind of like why I wouldnt advise wearing a Trump MAGA hat in downtown Austin --- come to think of it, pretty much the same reason why I *specifically* dont wear my mask of the US flag anywhere much in Austin.

Funny that.

So instead of the slow, roll of pontificating, seems simple to me -- call her up and find out. Tell us what you learn.

I was responding specifically to your quote:

Quote:But, hate to tell you, not the smartest move in the world to do a Biden bus through the New Braunfels - San Marcos - Kyle - Buda corridor.

Wondering why it should be an issue for the bus to be there. That's from you and not the Houston Chronicle editor, correct?

*edit* do people actually give you a hard time with an American flag mask? Are we talking a police-thin-blue-line mask or just the regular stars and stripes? Do they give you a hard time about it being against flag regulations or because they equate it with being a Trumpist?

(11-03-2020 01:13 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 01:07 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 12:32 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 11:49 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I think this one covers it spot on:

"The Democrats stay quiet when businesses were burned down, vandals vandalized & looting/stealing, with injuries and death. But when trucks with flags escorting out the Biden bus out of Texas, they go nuts with indignation. It’s laughable if not so absurd."

Republicans stay quiet or support Trump when he mocks his opponents and calls them names. But when they get called names or are mocked, they go nuts with indignation. It's laughable if not so absurd.

What the beejesus does *that* aside have to do with the issue about the Biden bus? Good grief you are hitting the unhinged random tossouts kind of furiously today.

I guess you find it perfectly acceptable to label a group of people as directly comparable to ISIS. Kind of stupid, and kind of grotesque.

But yet you keep pounding that trash can and refuse to label what it is. Go take some doggie downers and actually look at that comparison. 4 years ago you noted that Hillary calling segments of people 'deplorable' was not really proper.

Now -- well now you: a) have zero issue with a comparison with a murderous group of terrorists; b) seemingly steadfastly defend that comparison; c) have made that comparison directly; and d) seemingly support and promote that comparison. Otay...... Holy krist you have gone off the cliff on this one... you really should have cut bait and said 'well that is over the top, and in really bad taste', but you keep doubling down and doubling down and doubling down...

Again, they really need a head slap emoji in this bulletin board.

Remember when OO recently said that left wingers would look the other way if Biden molested children and you went crazy?

Actually I dont. Many times when away from Austin I dont look at the board. Amazing that.

What are your thoughts on equating Trump Trucks to ISIS? Kind of cool? Now that you have joined the discussion, are you going to support it (and perhaps get that crazy leg tingle) as lad seemingly is?

Quote:You really let him have it for saying something in such incredibly poor taste. I think that he has yet to recover from your severe scolding. That was awesome.

Again, I dont think I was looking at the board in detail. I guess I need a severe scolding for not reading that. You would seem to be the perfect person to do that, I would surmise.

Again, now that you have tossed your nickel into the ring in this front, where do you stand on the direct comparison of Trump Trucks to ISIS?

And now that I look back, kudos for you all for stating to OO that that comment seemed out of line. Happy now? I think I would have felt better if he had used the term that the left has fairly contemptuously noted time and time again on Trumps comment that he 'could murder someone and not lose votes' -- you all lose zero sleep over that, yet raise a ruckus on changing a murder to child molester. Yep, that makes all the difference..... lulz.

And, just so you dont judiciously miss the question (like how you continuously for about a month dodged the question on 'systemic blahbitty blah blah blah'), how to you like the direct comparison of Trump trucks to ISIS that lad keeps defending?

(11-03-2020 01:13 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 01:07 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 12:32 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 11:49 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I think this one covers it spot on:

"The Democrats stay quiet when businesses were burned down, vandals vandalized & looting/stealing, with injuries and death. But when trucks with flags escorting out the Biden bus out of Texas, they go nuts with indignation. It’s laughable if not so absurd."

Republicans stay quiet or support Trump when he mocks his opponents and calls them names. But when they get called names or are mocked, they go nuts with indignation. It's laughable if not so absurd.

What the beejesus does *that* aside have to do with the issue about the Biden bus? Good grief you are hitting the unhinged random tossouts kind of furiously today.

I guess you find it perfectly acceptable to label a group of people as directly comparable to ISIS. Kind of stupid, and kind of grotesque.

But yet you keep pounding that trash can and refuse to label what it is. Go take some doggie downers and actually look at that comparison. 4 years ago you noted that Hillary calling segments of people 'deplorable' was not really proper.

Now -- well now you: a) have zero issue with a comparison with a murderous group of terrorists; b) seemingly steadfastly defend that comparison; c) have made that comparison directly; and d) seemingly support and promote that comparison. Otay...... Holy krist you have gone off the cliff on this one... you really should have cut bait and said 'well that is over the top, and in really bad taste', but you keep doubling down and doubling down and doubling down...

Again, they really need a head slap emoji in this bulletin board.

Remember when OO recently said that left wingers would look the other way if Biden molested children and you went crazy? You really let him have it for saying something in such incredibly poor taste. I think that he has yet to recover from your severe scolding. That was awesome.

OK, NOW I'm going to indulge in a little Lad-like tit-for-tat.

Nobody on the left complained about the poor taste of saying Trump was a child molester for having his teenage daughter sit on his lap.

Nobody on the left wanted to see the multiple Biden "being creepy with women" instances.

Nobody wanted the Biden corruption investigated, which at least suggests that Biden would be allowed to get away with anything.

All I did was point out the obvious - Biden supporters will excuse anything on the part of their candidate, in their holy quest to beat Trump.

Physician, heal thyself.

(11-03-2020 11:18 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 10:43 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  You don't think surrounding the vehicles and then decreasing speeds significantly (down to ~20 mph) is intimidating?

No. I'd see it as an incredible nuisance, like those who hold hands across streets and freeways. Shall I show you the dozens of times THAT has occurred? I'd see it as a potential public safety issue related to emergency vehicles... like the ones who did it around hospitals in San Fran.

It's certainly not as intimidating as being pulled out of a car and beaten, only stopping when you realize that a) you're being recorded and b) the guy is handicapped.

Certainly not as intimidating as having fires set, windows broken, things stolen, being threatened with physical harm for videoing by local vigilantes... having your car STOPPED and beaten on by crowds.... having people break down your community gate and trod through your lawn wearing EYE covering masks (meant to conceal identities and not for 'safety')

Even the 'mad max' driving, I've had people do that to me for not reacting quickly enough to a green light, for not turning right on red when they think I could, for going 5 miles under the 'maximum' speed limit in the right lane... or ONLY doing 10MPH OVER it in the left. Meanwhile, I've had people damage my neighbor's home (he has a Trump sign out front) and a friends car (he has a Trump sticker).. so I don't put ANY political stickers on my vehicle or in my yard even though its my right to. How is THAT not intimidation? I mean, it ACTUALLY stops me from exercising my right of expression out of fear of being targeted. The guy in the car might be scared, but he CLEARLY isn't being intimidated out of exercising his rights, since he clearly exercises his rights to 'push back' (if that is your belief of what happened).... and the caravan isn't designed to stop people from reaching voting polls.

It's harassment... It's a nuisance... like guys stepping in front of cars to stop them, its also potentially dangerous. Intimidation? Please. You've repeatedly turned a blind eye to ACTUAL intimidation as being their right to protest.

EXACTLY why I don't have a Trump sticker or wear a Trump hat or have a Trump sign. I am worried about vandalism and violence, the standard Democratic response to opposition.

EXACTLY why I would not wear an "All Lives Matter" shirt or any other conservative statement. The left has shown time and again they feel entitled to attack anybody they disagree with, in any way that suits them.

(11-03-2020 02:07 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(11-03-2020 02:02 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Funny, I was responding to your direct quote of the quote I posted.

I have no effing clue why that editor noted the 'escorted out' language, nor do I pretend to know.

I will say that it really isnt a bright idea to roll a Biden campaign bus through a deeply red part of the state; kind of like why I wouldnt advise wearing a Trump MAGA hat in downtown Austin --- come to think of it, pretty much the same reason why I *specifically* dont wear my mask of the US flag anywhere much in Austin.

Funny that.

So instead of the slow, roll of pontificating, seems simple to me -- call her up and find out. Tell us what you learn.

I was responding specifically to your quote:

Quote:But, hate to tell you, not the smartest move in the world to do a Biden bus through the New Braunfels - San Marcos - Kyle - Buda corridor.

Wondering why it should be an issue for the bus to be there. That's from you and not the Houston Chronicle editor, correct?

Someone with a lick of sense would realize that that simply invites harassment.

Quote:*edit* do people actually give you a hard time with an American flag mask?

Yes.

Quote:Are we talking a police-thin-blue-line mask or just the regular stars and stripes?

Both. I have both, and the response in Austin is equivalent.

Quote:Do they give you a hard time about it being against flag regulations or because they equate it with being a Trumpist?

Yep, I am sure the Shaggies and Frizzy Goth Chicks are all up in the know about 'flag mores'. That *must* be the answer. What would we do without your insight there...

And the horrors of having a US flag bedecked shirt or other article of apparel. The sheer horror and terror of that.