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Graffiti @ Swem
Graffiti found on Swem entranceway, prompting WMPD investigation




http://flathatnews.com/2020/10/05/graffi...stigation/

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10-05-2020 01:33 PM
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dumb but at least it calls out liberalism.

maybe they should charge whoever did it the cleaning costs... should put an end to it fairly quickly
10-05-2020 02:21 PM
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Graffiti @ Swem
This confused me. "Liberalism is White Supremacy" followed by "F12". Are they saying that the police are propping up white supremacy minded liberalism? In my experience, law enforcement generally leans more towards the conservative. Either way it's stupid.

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(10-05-2020 07:27 PM)mrjoolius Wrote:  This confused me. "Liberalism is White Supremacy" followed by "F12". Are they saying that the police are propping up white supremacy minded liberalism? In my experience, law enforcement generally leans more towards the conservative. Either way it's stupid.

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the entirety of western liberal society is based on white supremacy (according to some). These liberal white supremacist societies use law enforcement to keep other people down.

*liberal meaning values associated with traditional liberalism and individual rights, not modern day liberal / conservative US politics.
10-05-2020 08:00 PM
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(10-05-2020 08:00 PM)soccerguy315 Wrote:  
(10-05-2020 07:27 PM)mrjoolius Wrote:  This confused me. "Liberalism is White Supremacy" followed by "F12". Are they saying that the police are propping up white supremacy minded liberalism? In my experience, law enforcement generally leans more towards the conservative. Either way it's stupid.

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the entirety of western liberal society is based on white supremacy (according to some). These liberal white supremacist societies use law enforcement to keep other people down.

*liberal meaning values associated with traditional liberalism and individual rights, not modern day liberal / conservative US politics.

I would venture that you put more thought into trying to discern some meaning from what some moron spray painted on bricks than they did in coming up with these "pearls of wisdom."
10-06-2020 06:34 AM
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(10-06-2020 06:34 AM)NC Tribe Wrote:  
(10-05-2020 08:00 PM)soccerguy315 Wrote:  
(10-05-2020 07:27 PM)mrjoolius Wrote:  This confused me. "Liberalism is White Supremacy" followed by "F12". Are they saying that the police are propping up white supremacy minded liberalism? In my experience, law enforcement generally leans more towards the conservative. Either way it's stupid.

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the entirety of western liberal society is based on white supremacy (according to some). These liberal white supremacist societies use law enforcement to keep other people down.

*liberal meaning values associated with traditional liberalism and individual rights, not modern day liberal / conservative US politics.

I would venture that you put more thought into trying to discern some meaning from what some moron spray painted on bricks than they did in coming up with these "pearls of wisdom."

Agreed lol
10-06-2020 10:33 AM
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I dunno.....seems like some high brow graffiti to me. Maybe a history or philosophy major or law student.
10-06-2020 11:01 AM
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It's just fortunate that enlightened jurisdictions no longer prosecute this sort of constitutionally protected political expression/creative street art/whatever.
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Makes u think

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Here's the appropriate means to express yourself:

https://www.wm.edu/offices/studentleader.../index.php

there's also a giant chalkboard between the new science center and the new dorms
10-06-2020 12:27 PM
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(10-06-2020 10:33 AM)Swemster Wrote:  
(10-06-2020 06:34 AM)NC Tribe Wrote:  
(10-05-2020 08:00 PM)soccerguy315 Wrote:  
(10-05-2020 07:27 PM)mrjoolius Wrote:  This confused me. "Liberalism is White Supremacy" followed by "F12". Are they saying that the police are propping up white supremacy minded liberalism? In my experience, law enforcement generally leans more towards the conservative. Either way it's stupid.

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the entirety of western liberal society is based on white supremacy (according to some). These liberal white supremacist societies use law enforcement to keep other people down.

*liberal meaning values associated with traditional liberalism and individual rights, not modern day liberal / conservative US politics.

I would venture that you put more thought into trying to discern some meaning from what some moron spray painted on bricks than they did in coming up with these "pearls of wisdom."

Agreed lol

haha I don't think so... it is a pretty standard marxist take on the current situation. The view that the wealthy and the government are a class of people keeping certain other classes down and the only way to change it is to remove the government and wealthy from their positions of power and authority. I'm sure you have seen the talking points about why it's ok to destroy private property and businesses that have been occurring the last few months. I'm sure you've seen the anarchy symbols spray painted at BLM protests. A state justice system enforced by the government, private property, profits... they are all qualities of "liberalism". The current conversation even includes calls for censorship and cancel culture for wrong-thinkers or speakers, which you could interpret as "removal from the party" a la the Bolsheviks of 100 years ago.

Everyone participating in BLM protests does not believe this. I bet the vast majority do not. But there are many who do. And college campuses are a great place to find marxists, as I'm sure you would agree, haha.

I would guess that the person that painted this views W&M as an oppressive place. (And I would tell them that they should go somewhere that is not oppressive, if they feel that way... perhaps the University of Phoenix).
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(10-06-2020 02:34 PM)soccerguy315 Wrote:  I would guess that the person that painted this views W&M as an oppressive place. (And I would tell them that they should go somewhere that is not oppressive, if they feel that way... perhaps the University of Phoenix).

But that's the rub isn't it? There is no non-oppressive place. There is no place on this planet where there aren't the haves and have nots and the perceived taking advantage of another to get ahead. Whether justified or not, there will be an unfair reason why someone else prospers and another fails. I know that this isn't really "oppression", but it leads to the perception of it. There is no such place short of the Federation of Planets on Star Trek where all are on equal footing to get ahead (and I could argue that there is a human bias there too )

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(10-06-2020 02:34 PM)soccerguy315 Wrote:  
(10-06-2020 10:33 AM)Swemster Wrote:  
(10-06-2020 06:34 AM)NC Tribe Wrote:  
(10-05-2020 08:00 PM)soccerguy315 Wrote:  
(10-05-2020 07:27 PM)mrjoolius Wrote:  This confused me. "Liberalism is White Supremacy" followed by "F12". Are they saying that the police are propping up white supremacy minded liberalism? In my experience, law enforcement generally leans more towards the conservative. Either way it's stupid.

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the entirety of western liberal society is based on white supremacy (according to some). These liberal white supremacist societies use law enforcement to keep other people down.

*liberal meaning values associated with traditional liberalism and individual rights, not modern day liberal / conservative US politics.

I would venture that you put more thought into trying to discern some meaning from what some moron spray painted on bricks than they did in coming up with these "pearls of wisdom."

Agreed lol

haha I don't think so... it is a pretty standard marxist take on the current situation. The view that the wealthy and the government are a class of people keeping certain other classes down and the only way to change it is to remove the government and wealthy from their positions of power and authority. I'm sure you have seen the talking points about why it's ok to destroy private property and businesses that have been occurring the last few months. I'm sure you've seen the anarchy symbols spray painted at BLM protests. A state justice system enforced by the government, private property, profits... they are all qualities of "liberalism". The current conversation even includes calls for censorship and cancel culture for wrong-thinkers or speakers, which you could interpret as "removal from the party" a la the Bolsheviks of 100 years ago.

Everyone participating in BLM protests does not believe this. I bet the vast majority do not. But there are many who do. And college campuses are a great place to find marxists, as I'm sure you would agree, haha.

I would guess that the person that painted this views W&M as an oppressive place. (And I would tell them that they should go somewhere that is not oppressive, if they feel that way... perhaps the University of Phoenix).

Yep I understand all that— was more so agreeing that the sophisticated interpretation of connecting “F12” to sustaining white supremacy through liberalism (as opposed to merely an institution stereotypically supported by conservatives) is likely beyond the scope of the message scrawled on the front of the library.
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(10-06-2020 02:34 PM)soccerguy315 Wrote:  I would guess that the person that painted this views W&M as an oppressive place. (And I would tell them that they should go somewhere that is not oppressive, if they feel that way... perhaps the University of Phoenix).

Pushing for change at the College can be a great thing, but I think you are on to something here. No school is for everybody, and it has been interesting to see some of the people who are most adamant about some changes at the College also writing/saying that they want nothing to do with it after they graduate. It does make me think about how the College administration determines who they listen to.
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