This is confusing. I have a very hard time believing we outspend Hofstra, CoC, UNCW, Drexel, UD, or JMU in basketball. The huge donations for fixing up W&M Hall must have factored into our perceived budget.

This is 2 yrs old: https://www.midmajormadness.com/2018/6/1...-mid-major

Shows we outspent (2018) only Elon & Towson.

I don't think we can buy success but money doesn't hurt. Either way, cutting the 7 sports won't boost our overall budget if thousands of donors stop giving.

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Does the payoff to Coach Shaver count as part of the basketball budget?

(10-05-2020 03:26 PM)Zorch Wrote:  In other words, Huge had already changed the spending to move us to the top -- so why does she need the extra money from chopping 7 sports and stealing their endowments ---- to keep us there?

I think it's more the other way around, that basketball and football are getting a lot more "investment" and so there's not as much money to go around. That's definitely the position of the advocates of the cut sports. IMO, a legitimate argument as well, that points out more shady activity. Huge increases spending on basketball and football, then all of a sudden there's no money for the other sports. We'll just pretend not to notice that there's no money at least in part because of the reallocation of funds.

However, that said, there wasn't a clean path for the athletic department to increase spending on basketball and football, no matter who's in charge. If there were going to be sports cut either before or after, it's a tough sell. But despite it being a difficult position, Huge somehow made it even worse.

(10-05-2020 02:37 PM)soccerguy315 Wrote:  

(10-05-2020 01:52 PM)tribeinexile Wrote:  There was a comment a few posts back that W&M leads the CAA in spending on MBB.

It was also stated that we were close to the top in Football. I don’t know if that meant we were 2nd or that we were close to JMU in spending on that sport.

No one agreed or refuted those comments.

Are these statements correct?

They match the numbers reported by the Richmond Times Dispatch in the last couple days (here: https://richmond.com/sports/college/will...6e6.html). JMU $10M, Delaware $7.8M, W&M and Richmond $7M, Villanova $6.7M

That said, the numbers show a VERY LARGE increase from what I remember our basketball budget being. Edit: Just went and looked, and in 16-17 our basketball spending was $2.1M and now we are at $3.9M, so...

Also, football from 13 to 18 was: $5.3M, $6M, $5.9M, $6.5M, $6.6M, $6.9M

And for fun, here is a Huge quote from 2019:

Quote:“The bottom line is this: I was charged with leadership of the department ... and again I didn’t pick the sports that the NCAA or that society was going to decide they want to spend a lot of money on and that there was a lot of money tied to being successful and being able to generate revenue,” Huge said. “But I’m not doing my job if I don’t capitalize on that.”

We probably spend close to $1 million more than everybody other than Richmond and maybe Elon in football scholarships alone.

I have no inside knowledge, but paying two head coaches, summer school for scholarship players, the overseas trip once every 4 years, perhaps more out of state players, participating in in-season tournaments would all increase men's hoops spending. Did the team get a dedicated trainer it didn't have before? Higher assistant coaches salaries? Bigger recruiting budget?

Also, if department overhead increases, (think all the new assistant ADs and Huge's salary) the allocation to men's hoops could have increased.

However this money has been spent, there hasn't been much of an ROI to date.

I have a hard time believing our basketball budget nearly doubled to be the best funded program in the conference and not a single person on this board had any clue for over two years. I suspect the RTD just got its numbers wrong.

(10-06-2020 09:18 AM)Tribe2011 Wrote:  I have a hard time believing our basketball budget nearly doubled to be the best funded program in the conference and not a single person on this board had any clue for over two years. I suspect the RTD just got its numbers wrong.

RTD numbers are not wrong, in fact more spending moved to hoops late in Shaver's tenure. His contract was not bought out in a lump sum, therefore that annual expense is inflating the spend.