(09-25-2020 07:36 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  The fabled 4 post in a row by Tom. Almost makes me want to take him off of ignore. Almost.

Reminds me of Mach.

(09-25-2020 07:58 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-25-2020 07:36 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  The fabled 4 post in a row by Tom. Almost makes me want to take him off of ignore. Almost.

Reminds me of Mach.

Very close, but Mach's would typically a one liner that read like sky screaming.

Story doesn't say: But i think you can add Wisconsin to the list now:

Wisconsin absentee ballots/trays in a ditch

So Tom, you want to explain how the ones in a "ditch" were just a possible oversight??

(09-25-2020 06:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  This whole thing is fishy. The WH teased this initial announcement before the DOJ issued their first incorrect statement, touting like this was clear evidence of bias against trump. And why are they even releasing a statement when they were still investigating?

DOJ announcement on Pennsylvania ballot investigation baffles election experts

Revised DOJ statement.
Revised Statement Of U.S. Attorney Freed On Inquiry Into Reports Of Potential Issues With Mail-In Ballots

Turns out it was an issue ever since the primary that PA needs to work out where their ballot return envelopes are similar looking, so staff opened these to make sure they weren't missing an application for a ballot, because as I said, actual absentee ballots are not allowed to be opened under PA law until 7 a.m. on election day. And even in the revised statement, it doesn't really say whether the votes were actually counted or not.

As I said, best to wait for all the facts...and there seems like more are to come still.

Tom..

Again going with the media and not the facts.

From the DOJ link:

HARRISBURG - On Monday, September 21, 2020, at the request of Luzerne County District Attorney Stefanie Salavantis, the Office of the United States Attorney along with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Scranton Resident Office, began an inquiry into reports of potential issues with a small number of mail-in ballots at the Luzerne County Board of Elections.

Since Monday, FBI personnel working together with the Pennsylvania State Police have conducted numerous interviews and recovered and reviewed certain physical evidence. Election officials in Luzerne County have been cooperative. At this point we can confirm that a small number of military ballots were discarded. Investigators have recovered nine ballots at this time. Some of those ballots can be attributed to specific voters and some cannot. Of the nine ballots that were discarded and then recovered, 7 were cast for presidential candidate Donald Trump. Two of the discarded ballots had been resealed inside their appropriate envelopes by Luzerne elections staff prior to recovery by the FBI and the contents of those 2 ballots are unknown.

Our inquiry remains ongoing and we expect later today to share our up to date findings with officials in Luzerne County. It is the vital duty of government to ensure that every properly cast vote is counted.

Doesn't say it was primary vs general.

Again we know who you are..

You say you're not voting Biden but I've yet to see you take a stance that states otherwise.

(09-25-2020 07:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And here's the DOJ letter to the PA County explaining everything. Again, this appears to be issues they had during their primary, not the GE.

Letter to Luzerne County Bureau of Elections

Quote:It was explained to investigators the envelopes used for official overseas, military, absentee and mail-in ballot requests are so similar, that the staff believed that adhering to the protocol of preserving envelopes unopened would cause them to miss such ballot requests. Our interviews further revealed that this issue was a problem in the primary election--therefore a known issue--and that the problem has not been corrected.

It was an issue in the primary THAT HAS NOT BEEN CORRECTED.

Ree more water carrier..

You and the left. It's like you're a cult.

Dishonesty..

You left this part out:

As you know, the appropriate method for processing received military ballots is to securely store the ballot, unopened, until such time as ballot pre-canvassing can begin, which is in no event earlier than 7:00 a.m. on Election Day. Opening a military or overseas ballot, or an absentee or mail-in ballot for that matter, violates the controlling statutes and is contrary to Pennsylvania Department of State guidance. The preliminary findings of this inquiry are troubling and the Luzerne County Bureau of Elections must comply with all applicable state and federal election laws and guidance to ensure that all votes—regardless of party—are counted to ensure an accurate election count. Even though your staff has made some attempts to reconstitute certain of the improperly opened ballots, there is no guarantee that any of these votes will be counted in the general election. In addition, our investigation has revealed that all or nearly all envelopes received in the elections office were opened as a matter of course. It was explained to investigators the envelopes used for official overseas, military, absentee and mail-in ballot requests are so similar, that the staff believed that adhering to the protocol of preserving envelopes unopened would cause them to miss such ballot requests. Our interviews further revealed that this issue was a problem in the primary election--therefore a known issue--and that the problem has not been corrected.


You took the comment out of context.

Why would they just now be disposing of primary ballots they just received?

Cause they didn't. It appears this has been a problem for some time and it's not only just in the primary but all elections and it hasn't been corrected...

Shill on playa.. Shill on.

(09-25-2020 08:47 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Story doesn't say: But i think you can add Wisconsin to the list now:

Wisconsin absentee ballots/trays in a ditch

So Tom, you want to explain how the ones in a "ditch" were just a possible oversight??

1. The PA issue, we now know, was not an oversight. They opened ballots by mistake that they thought were requests for absentee ballots. They opened them to make sure they did not miss a request for an absentee ballot. And according to the state AG in his statement last night on CNN, this happened back in the primary and was not in the GE.

2. The Wisconsin story is developing, There is no word how many ballots were included. But it stands to reason that a tray a mail would include at least one ballot request. So until you have proof that someone intentionally tried to disappear a ballot, there's nothing here. And if you were going to disappear a ballot or two, wouldn't you just toss them and not the whole tray of mail? Best to wait for the whole story, right?

(09-25-2020 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-25-2020 08:47 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Story doesn't say: But i think you can add Wisconsin to the list now:

Wisconsin absentee ballots/trays in a ditch

So Tom, you want to explain how the ones in a "ditch" were just a possible oversight??

1. The PA issue, we now know, was not an oversight. They opened ballots by mistake that they thought were requests for absentee ballots. They opened them to make sure they did not miss a request for an absentee ballot. And according to the state AG in his statement last night on CNN, this happened back in the primary and was not in the GE.

2. The Wisconsin story is developing, There is no word how many ballots were included. But it stands to reason that a tray a mail would include at least one ballot request. So until you have proof that someone intentionally tried to disappear a ballot, there's nothing here. And if you were going to disappear a ballot or two, wouldn't you just toss them and not the whole tray of mail? Best to wait for the whole story, right?

You need to read the links you posted from the DOJ..


Even though your staff has made some attempts to reconstitute certain of the improperly opened ballots, there is no guarantee that any of these votes will be counted in the general election.... Our interviews further revealed that this issue was a problem in the primary election--therefore a known issue--and that the problem has not been corrected.


Stop doing victory laps Tom, it was GE ballots. They had the issue during the primary and didn't fix it.

You're either ignorant, can't comprehend what you read, or you're dishonest..

Or all 3.

(09-25-2020 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  2. The Wisconsin story is developing, There is no word how many ballots were included. But it stands to reason that a tray a mail would include at least one ballot request. So until you have proof that someone intentionally tried to disappear a ballot, there's nothing here. And if you were going to disappear a ballot or two, wouldn't you just toss them and not the whole tray of mail? Best to wait for the whole story, right?

LOL.. it's just an Accident that 3 trays (of however many ballots.. and I Don't give a damn if it's 1 or 3000)... That's someone who's vote didnt' count...

just "Fell out of a USPS truck" somewhere?

Tom: This does not happen.

Also Tom: I never said this does not happen.

(09-25-2020 07:36 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  The fabled 4 post in a row by Tom. Almost makes me want to take him off of ignore. Almost.

almost. Yet his kind is the first to chime in with "every single vote is sacred!"

How many of these discarded ballots were from minorities? Why are Democrats racists?

How many of these “accidental coincidences” have gone the other way?

Tossing ballots for the Harris-Obiden ticket?

Odd that.

Fake News: Tom: The Most Honest and Respectful Independent Person in the Spin Room

Real Facts: Tom: The Most Dishonost, Democratic Cultist in the Spin Room

Yeowch! :)


Meadows goes after the FBI's incompetence

Quote:With all due respect to Drector Wray, he has a hard time finding emails in his own FBI let alone figuring out whether there's any kind of voter fraud,' Meadows said
@parler @parler usa

Gotta love the

“With all due respect” everyone gets before they get completely roasted.


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Quote:The Outagamie County Sheriff's Office told the Washington Examiner that the mail discovered was "mail going to the post office."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/...-wisconsin

Interesting...seems to open the possibility that this was from someone taking their mail, maybe from a business with a mail room, to the post office.

But again, all just speculation until we get the final report.

(09-25-2020 11:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:The Outagamie County Sheriff's Office told the Washington Examiner that the mail discovered was "mail going to the post office."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/...-wisconsin

Interesting...seems to open the possibility that this was from someone taking their mail, maybe from a business with a mail room, to the post office.

But again, all just speculation until we get the final report.

You've never waited on anything past the headline in the past.. But I guess now it affects your ilk.

I guess we should be honorable and walk back the statements if proven wrong.

Speaking of which, I'm still waiting on you to walk back your incorrect statements about the PA ballots.

(09-25-2020 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-25-2020 08:47 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Story doesn't say: But i think you can add Wisconsin to the list now:

Wisconsin absentee ballots/trays in a ditch

So Tom, you want to explain how the ones in a "ditch" were just a possible oversight??

1. The PA issue, we now know, was not an oversight. They opened ballots by mistake that they thought were requests for absentee ballots. They opened them to make sure they did not miss a request for an absentee ballot. And according to the state AG in his statement last night on CNN, this happened back in the primary and was not in the GE.

2. The Wisconsin story is developing, There is no word how many ballots were included. But it stands to reason that a tray a mail would include at least one ballot request. So until you have proof that someone intentionally tried to disappear a ballot, there's nothing here. And if you were going to disappear a ballot or two, wouldn't you just toss them and not the whole tray of mail? Best to wait for the whole story, right?

Is there a difference between intentional and accidental when it comes to errors?

If I made a genuine error and without mal intent threw Trump ballots in the trash is that still not a problem

You know what's even stupider about this story? Pennsylvania has not even started mailing ballots out yet from what I'm reading.

And it also is being reported that lapdog Barr personally briefed trump on this before they released their initial incorrect statement. But keep on pretending that trump is not trying to tamper with the integrity of the vote by sowing this made up doubt. It's despicable.

(09-25-2020 01:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You know what's even stupider about this story? Pennsylvania has not even started mailing ballots out yet from what I'm reading.

And it also is being reported that lapdog Barr personally briefed trump on this before they released their initial incorrect statement. But keep on pretending that trump is not trying to tamper with the integrity of the vote by sowing this made up doubt. It's despicable.

Hey Tom... Read your links. It tells you there.

Why am I arguing?

I'd have a better shot at turning a fence post into a goat.

BTW Tom, IT WAS ABSENTEE BALLOTS. THEY'VE BEEN MAILED TO THE MILITARY.

(09-25-2020 01:40 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-25-2020 01:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You know what's even stupider about this story? Pennsylvania has not even started mailing ballots out yet from what I'm reading.

And it also is being reported that lapdog Barr personally briefed trump on this before they released their initial incorrect statement. But keep on pretending that trump is not trying to tamper with the integrity of the vote by sowing this made up doubt. It's despicable.

Hey Tom... Read your links. It tells you there.

Why am I arguing?

I'd have a better shot at turning a fence post into a goat.

BTW Tom, IT WAS ABSENTEE BALLOTS. THEY'VE BEEN MAILED TO THE MILITARY.

it's fonzies being on ignore, Ja?!!!

wear his soros' arse out with a frozen breadstick....