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RE: Let this put an end to SBC vs CUSA
(09-20-2020 12:28 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 12:03 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
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(09-19-2020 10:11 PM)rileylives Wrote:  2014 champions vs champions CUSA > Sun Belt
2015 champions vs champions CUSA > Sun Belt
2016 champions vs champions CUSA > Sun Belt
2017 champions vs champions CUSA > Sun Belt

2018 champions vs champions Sun Belt > CUSA
2019 champions vs champions Sun Belt > CUSA

2020 best vs best CUSA > Sun Belt (too early to tell about champs)

So that's two years out of 7.
I don't buy that. I think Florida Atlantic could have beat App last year. We destroyed smu without our coach and many of our best players.

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Yeah, I was waiting for some of the UAB and FAU posters to kind of add to that.

But that's definitely the perception right now. Especially because last year's App team was a top 25 team. I think they probably were better than us last year. But I think we have the opportunity to turn that tide now.

I still believe App is a strong team in 2020, and it looks like we might hold serve this year.

Puleeze. Enough about Appy. I've seen Appy play 4 times now over the past 2 years, and the results were mixed:

- Two were losses against GA Southern last year and Marshall this year. And the Marshall game wasn't really close. Doc Holliday played very conservatively in the 2nd half because he knew a 10-point lead was golden.
- A very narrow win against a Charlotte team playing with an obviously injured QB.
- A nice win over a 2019 UAB team that overachieved in CUSA, but did not consider it "their year".

I'm still not impressed with Appy St. And that's not a posturing statement. It's just a statement of fact. I don't get what's "all that" about Appy. They are okay....I'm not saying they suck or anything, but I think my own LA Tech --who has still never lost a game to a Sunbelt opponent and currently rides a 6-game win streak in bowl games-- would compete just fine with Appy year in and year out.

Ha, you cherry picked our three worst games in the last 2 years to disparage App as well as a game where we beat up on your West Division champ with an interim coach. What has LA Techy done other than win a conference championship every 10 years (2 Since 1984)?
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RE: Let this put an end to SBC vs CUSA
(09-20-2020 01:00 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 11:52 AM)Appvette Wrote:  What a ridiculous thread. App lost the Sunbelt defensive player of the year to graduation (4th round pick). Also had arguably the best RB (3rd round pick) in the conference leave early for the NFL and arguably the best WR (NFL talent) is sitting out due to COVID. They also lost their head coach and lots of assistants to Missouri and their first year head coach is trying to learn on the job during a pandemic. None of this takes away from Marshall's win, but it is a giant stretch to say this somehow shows that CUSA > Sunbelt when everyone knew it was very likely App would drop off this year or at least take a while to get rolling. I don't think many people would argue against the fact that the Sunbelt overall is looking better this year and was better the previous 2 years and CUSA was better before that.

Marshall didn't dominate App yesterday... they had a similar amount of yards but the main difference was the additional turnover for App and a major strength from last year is now a weakness after we lost our Special Teams coach. And it was also a 10 point game... not a 30 point game. Marshall was consistently starting with way better field position and we couldn't kick a field goal. I heard a lot of people say they were surprised with the lack of trash talk from two old rivals. I think this is because Marshall wasn't too confident since App has been better recently and was ranked. App fans weren't talking trash since they saw how sloppy we looked against Charlotte and we knew we lost several major pieces from our 13 win season last year.

Regardless of all that, it was a great win for Marshall and all the fans we encountered were super nice and didn't live up to the crazy stories from the 80s and 90s (that's a good thing). I hope we can make this a regular game and rekindle the rivalry. Congrats MU!

You had made the comment that Marshall didn't dominate yesterday. I respectfully disagree.

Our offensive line was really winning the line of scrimmage. App State had a very athletic defense, and took it to our passing game, but that offensive line and that running game for Marshall was churning.

I agree that your oline looked great. But that doesn't mean Marshall dominated overall. Heck, App held Marshall's "Heisman candidate QB" to 44% passing 163 yards 1 int 0 TDs. Just because we dominated that phase doesn't mean we dominated the game. It was pretty even other than turnovers and special teams. Again, that doesn't take away from their win at all but shows that MU didn't dominate.
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RE: Let this put an end to SBC vs CUSA
(09-20-2020 01:00 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 11:52 AM)Appvette Wrote:  What a ridiculous thread. App lost the Sunbelt defensive player of the year to graduation (4th round pick). Also had arguably the best RB (3rd round pick) in the conference leave early for the NFL and arguably the best WR (NFL talent) is sitting out due to COVID. They also lost their head coach and lots of assistants to Missouri and their first year head coach is trying to learn on the job during a pandemic. None of this takes away from Marshall's win, but it is a giant stretch to say this somehow shows that CUSA > Sunbelt when everyone knew it was very likely App would drop off this year or at least take a while to get rolling. I don't think many people would argue against the fact that the Sunbelt overall is looking better this year and was better the previous 2 years and CUSA was better before that.

Marshall didn't dominate App yesterday... they had a similar amount of yards but the main difference was the additional turnover for App and a major strength from last year is now a weakness after we lost our Special Teams coach. And it was also a 10 point game... not a 30 point game. Marshall was consistently starting with way better field position and we couldn't kick a field goal. I heard a lot of people say they were surprised with the lack of trash talk from two old rivals. I think this is because Marshall wasn't too confident since App has been better recently and was ranked. App fans weren't talking trash since they saw how sloppy we looked against Charlotte and we knew we lost several major pieces from our 13 win season last year.

Regardless of all that, it was a great win for Marshall and all the fans we encountered were super nice and didn't live up to the crazy stories from the 80s and 90s (that's a good thing). I hope we can make this a regular game and rekindle the rivalry. Congrats MU!

You had made the comment that Marshall didn't dominate yesterday. I respectfully disagree.

Our offensive line was really winning the line of scrimmage. App State had a very athletic defense, and took it to our passing game, but that offensive line and that running game for Marshall was churning.

App was manhandled in the trenches. Period, amen, end of story. Quit crying about losing players. We lost Obialo who was our best wr not to mention Jaquan Yulee who was our best lb. suck it up, buttercup.

If you’re allowing 8+ yards on the ground multiple times on 3rd down, then you’re getting manhandled.

How many sacks did App have. Want to venture a guess? Just Stop and give credit where credit is due. App is a quality team and this rivalry should continue.
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RE: Let this put an end to SBC vs CUSA
(09-20-2020 01:25 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 01:00 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 11:52 AM)Appvette Wrote:  What a ridiculous thread. App lost the Sunbelt defensive player of the year to graduation (4th round pick). Also had arguably the best RB (3rd round pick) in the conference leave early for the NFL and arguably the best WR (NFL talent) is sitting out due to COVID. They also lost their head coach and lots of assistants to Missouri and their first year head coach is trying to learn on the job during a pandemic. None of this takes away from Marshall's win, but it is a giant stretch to say this somehow shows that CUSA > Sunbelt when everyone knew it was very likely App would drop off this year or at least take a while to get rolling. I don't think many people would argue against the fact that the Sunbelt overall is looking better this year and was better the previous 2 years and CUSA was better before that.

Marshall didn't dominate App yesterday... they had a similar amount of yards but the main difference was the additional turnover for App and a major strength from last year is now a weakness after we lost our Special Teams coach. And it was also a 10 point game... not a 30 point game. Marshall was consistently starting with way better field position and we couldn't kick a field goal. I heard a lot of people say they were surprised with the lack of trash talk from two old rivals. I think this is because Marshall wasn't too confident since App has been better recently and was ranked. App fans weren't talking trash since they saw how sloppy we looked against Charlotte and we knew we lost several major pieces from our 13 win season last year.

Regardless of all that, it was a great win for Marshall and all the fans we encountered were super nice and didn't live up to the crazy stories from the 80s and 90s (that's a good thing). I hope we can make this a regular game and rekindle the rivalry. Congrats MU!

You had made the comment that Marshall didn't dominate yesterday. I respectfully disagree.

Our offensive line was really winning the line of scrimmage. App State had a very athletic defense, and took it to our passing game, but that offensive line and that running game for Marshall was churning.

App was manhandled in the trenches. Period, amen, end of story. Quit crying about losing players. We lost Obialo who was our best wr not to mention Jaquan Yulee who was our best lb. suck it up, buttercup.

If you’re allowing 8+ yards on the ground multiple times on 3rd down, then you’re getting manhandled.

How many sacks did App have. Want to venture a guess? Just Stop and give credit where credit is due. App is a quality team and this rivalry should continue.

WTF.... i was very clear that my point isn't that we lost players but rather we aren't nearly the same team as last year and therefore you can't draw conclusions about conference strength based on this game. And you say give credit where credit is due right after i gave Marshall credit for the win. Do they teach you all to read up there?
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RE: Let this put an end to SBC vs CUSA
(09-20-2020 02:07 PM)Appvette Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 01:25 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 01:00 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 11:52 AM)Appvette Wrote:  What a ridiculous thread. App lost the Sunbelt defensive player of the year to graduation (4th round pick). Also had arguably the best RB (3rd round pick) in the conference leave early for the NFL and arguably the best WR (NFL talent) is sitting out due to COVID. They also lost their head coach and lots of assistants to Missouri and their first year head coach is trying to learn on the job during a pandemic. None of this takes away from Marshall's win, but it is a giant stretch to say this somehow shows that CUSA > Sunbelt when everyone knew it was very likely App would drop off this year or at least take a while to get rolling. I don't think many people would argue against the fact that the Sunbelt overall is looking better this year and was better the previous 2 years and CUSA was better before that.

Marshall didn't dominate App yesterday... they had a similar amount of yards but the main difference was the additional turnover for App and a major strength from last year is now a weakness after we lost our Special Teams coach. And it was also a 10 point game... not a 30 point game. Marshall was consistently starting with way better field position and we couldn't kick a field goal. I heard a lot of people say they were surprised with the lack of trash talk from two old rivals. I think this is because Marshall wasn't too confident since App has been better recently and was ranked. App fans weren't talking trash since they saw how sloppy we looked against Charlotte and we knew we lost several major pieces from our 13 win season last year.

Regardless of all that, it was a great win for Marshall and all the fans we encountered were super nice and didn't live up to the crazy stories from the 80s and 90s (that's a good thing). I hope we can make this a regular game and rekindle the rivalry. Congrats MU!

You had made the comment that Marshall didn't dominate yesterday. I respectfully disagree.

Our offensive line was really winning the line of scrimmage. App State had a very athletic defense, and took it to our passing game, but that offensive line and that running game for Marshall was churning.

App was manhandled in the trenches. Period, amen, end of story. Quit crying about losing players. We lost Obialo who was our best wr not to mention Jaquan Yulee who was our best lb. suck it up, buttercup.

If you’re allowing 8+ yards on the ground multiple times on 3rd down, then you’re getting manhandled.

How many sacks did App have. Want to venture a guess? Just Stop and give credit where credit is due. App is a quality team and this rivalry should continue.

WTF.... i was very clear that my point isn't that we lost players but rather we aren't nearly the same team as last year and therefore you can't draw conclusions about conference strength based on this game. And you say give credit where credit is due right after i gave Marshall credit for the win. Do they teach you all to read up there?

I mean, come on dude.

Yes, this may not have been the electric team you were used to seeing in the last few years. How much of that was the Marshall defense yesterday?

I'm not going to lie and say I watched App State games the last few years. However, I know that Marshall played with fire yesterday, and controlled the line of scrimmage. If we can go forward with that personality, we should be good.
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(09-20-2020 12:58 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Good post and I totally agree. They are decent G5 program and of course the cream of the weak Sunbelt. They played against a weak Tennessee team at home and got man handled.

Marshall should view the result as a decent win against a decent program. Nothing more. Now if Marshall would have beat Boise last year now that would have been a good win against a top G5 team.

Tech is undefeated (includes beating the undefeated Sunbelt champ) against the Sunbelt for a reason.

Your posturing game is on point.

Too bad no one's buying it.
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(09-19-2020 10:37 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  
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(09-19-2020 10:33 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  
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(09-19-2020 10:09 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  No sir, YOU are delusional. We beat #6 Kansas st who won the big 12. We beat #25 BYU. We beat App.. no, wait, dominated App tonight. Something Troy hasn’t done.

If you don’t want to be delusional, the only reason the Belt is better is that you schedule our weaker teams with a couple of exceptions and our bottom is the dregs. This was the first best on best. Oooopsie..

We’d have pounded your ass tonight. So don’t come over her crowing when you’ve never finished a season ranked. Buhbye now.

Troy beat Ranked LSU “the next year they won the national championship”
Troy beat Ranked Oklahoma State
Troy beat Ranked Missouri

We all have games like that!

Just soak it in! It’s not every day you guys take down an average Sunbelt school.

Let me get the facts straight. You root for Troy and live in alabama? The poorest state in our country. I just want to know where you sit before we address each other.

I don't know where he sits but ODU is sitting at home lol

Is that as hard as you can hit? I guess you share the same lot?

And father.
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(09-20-2020 01:13 PM)Appvette Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 12:28 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 12:03 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 12:00 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(09-19-2020 10:11 PM)rileylives Wrote:  2014 champions vs champions CUSA > Sun Belt
2015 champions vs champions CUSA > Sun Belt
2016 champions vs champions CUSA > Sun Belt
2017 champions vs champions CUSA > Sun Belt

2018 champions vs champions Sun Belt > CUSA
2019 champions vs champions Sun Belt > CUSA

2020 best vs best CUSA > Sun Belt (too early to tell about champs)

So that's two years out of 7.
I don't buy that. I think Florida Atlantic could have beat App last year. We destroyed smu without our coach and many of our best players.

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Yeah, I was waiting for some of the UAB and FAU posters to kind of add to that.

But that's definitely the perception right now. Especially because last year's App team was a top 25 team. I think they probably were better than us last year. But I think we have the opportunity to turn that tide now.

I still believe App is a strong team in 2020, and it looks like we might hold serve this year.

Puleeze. Enough about Appy. I've seen Appy play 4 times now over the past 2 years, and the results were mixed:

- Two were losses against GA Southern last year and Marshall this year. And the Marshall game wasn't really close. Doc Holliday played very conservatively in the 2nd half because he knew a 10-point lead was golden.
- A very narrow win against a Charlotte team playing with an obviously injured QB.
- A nice win over a 2019 UAB team that overachieved in CUSA, but did not consider it "their year".

I'm still not impressed with Appy St. And that's not a posturing statement. It's just a statement of fact. I don't get what's "all that" about Appy. They are okay....I'm not saying they suck or anything, but I think my own LA Tech --who has still never lost a game to a Sunbelt opponent and currently rides a 6-game win streak in bowl games-- would compete just fine with Appy year in and year out.

Ha, you cherry picked our three worst games in the last 2 years to disparage App as well as a game where we beat up on your West Division champ with an interim coach. What has LA Techy done other than win a conference championship every 10 years (2 Since 1984)?

I didn't "cherry pick" the games, you paranoid goofball. LOL! Those are the 4 Appy games I've watched. I watched the Appy-GA Southern game because it was on national TV at night last year, and you guys had just cracked the Top 25. And, it was the only game on TV. All of the remaining Appy games I've watched involved CUSA teams; UAB, Charlotte & Marshall. Maybe those are some of your worst performances because you finally stepped up to the big leagues? LOL!

You don't actually think I would watch Appy play another Sunbelt school do ya? LOL!
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(09-20-2020 02:07 PM)Appvette Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 01:25 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 01:00 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 11:52 AM)Appvette Wrote:  What a ridiculous thread. App lost the Sunbelt defensive player of the year to graduation (4th round pick). Also had arguably the best RB (3rd round pick) in the conference leave early for the NFL and arguably the best WR (NFL talent) is sitting out due to COVID. They also lost their head coach and lots of assistants to Missouri and their first year head coach is trying to learn on the job during a pandemic. None of this takes away from Marshall's win, but it is a giant stretch to say this somehow shows that CUSA > Sunbelt when everyone knew it was very likely App would drop off this year or at least take a while to get rolling. I don't think many people would argue against the fact that the Sunbelt overall is looking better this year and was better the previous 2 years and CUSA was better before that.

Marshall didn't dominate App yesterday... they had a similar amount of yards but the main difference was the additional turnover for App and a major strength from last year is now a weakness after we lost our Special Teams coach. And it was also a 10 point game... not a 30 point game. Marshall was consistently starting with way better field position and we couldn't kick a field goal. I heard a lot of people say they were surprised with the lack of trash talk from two old rivals. I think this is because Marshall wasn't too confident since App has been better recently and was ranked. App fans weren't talking trash since they saw how sloppy we looked against Charlotte and we knew we lost several major pieces from our 13 win season last year.

Regardless of all that, it was a great win for Marshall and all the fans we encountered were super nice and didn't live up to the crazy stories from the 80s and 90s (that's a good thing). I hope we can make this a regular game and rekindle the rivalry. Congrats MU!

You had made the comment that Marshall didn't dominate yesterday. I respectfully disagree.

Our offensive line was really winning the line of scrimmage. App State had a very athletic defense, and took it to our passing game, but that offensive line and that running game for Marshall was churning.

App was manhandled in the trenches. Period, amen, end of story. Quit crying about losing players. We lost Obialo who was our best wr not to mention Jaquan Yulee who was our best lb. suck it up, buttercup.

If you’re allowing 8+ yards on the ground multiple times on 3rd down, then you’re getting manhandled.

How many sacks did App have. Want to venture a guess? Just Stop and give credit where credit is due. App is a quality team and this rivalry should continue.

WTF.... i was very clear that my point isn't that we lost players but rather we aren't nearly the same team as last year and therefore you can't draw conclusions about conference strength based on this game. And you say give credit where credit is due right after i gave Marshall credit for the win. Do they teach you all to read up there?
I can read on a level higher than most. I went to Wheeling Jesuit. Lived in Huntington nearly my whole life and have credits from Marshall is the state police academy. So yeah. I’m good. I was just refuting your other points. No need to be insulting man.
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(09-20-2020 01:23 PM)Appvette Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 01:00 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 11:52 AM)Appvette Wrote:  What a ridiculous thread. App lost the Sunbelt defensive player of the year to graduation (4th round pick). Also had arguably the best RB (3rd round pick) in the conference leave early for the NFL and arguably the best WR (NFL talent) is sitting out due to COVID. They also lost their head coach and lots of assistants to Missouri and their first year head coach is trying to learn on the job during a pandemic. None of this takes away from Marshall's win, but it is a giant stretch to say this somehow shows that CUSA > Sunbelt when everyone knew it was very likely App would drop off this year or at least take a while to get rolling. I don't think many people would argue against the fact that the Sunbelt overall is looking better this year and was better the previous 2 years and CUSA was better before that.

Marshall didn't dominate App yesterday... they had a similar amount of yards but the main difference was the additional turnover for App and a major strength from last year is now a weakness after we lost our Special Teams coach. And it was also a 10 point game... not a 30 point game. Marshall was consistently starting with way better field position and we couldn't kick a field goal. I heard a lot of people say they were surprised with the lack of trash talk from two old rivals. I think this is because Marshall wasn't too confident since App has been better recently and was ranked. App fans weren't talking trash since they saw how sloppy we looked against Charlotte and we knew we lost several major pieces from our 13 win season last year.

Regardless of all that, it was a great win for Marshall and all the fans we encountered were super nice and didn't live up to the crazy stories from the 80s and 90s (that's a good thing). I hope we can make this a regular game and rekindle the rivalry. Congrats MU!

You had made the comment that Marshall didn't dominate yesterday. I respectfully disagree.

Our offensive line was really winning the line of scrimmage. App State had a very athletic defense, and took it to our passing game, but that offensive line and that running game for Marshall was churning.

I agree that your oline looked great. But that doesn't mean Marshall dominated overall. Heck, App held Marshall's "Heisman candidate QB" to 44% passing 163 yards 1 int 0 TDs. Just because we dominated that phase doesn't mean we dominated the game. It was pretty even other than turnovers and special teams. Again, that doesn't take away from their win at all but shows that MU didn't dominate.

My God, you Appy people are paranoid. LOL! You lost by DOUBLE DIGITS yesterday. It wasn't even close. And what's this "Heisman candidate QB" stuff you're razzing Marshall fans about? Are you referring to Marshall's Redshirt Freshman QB? You know you were beaten by a redshirt freshman QB. 07-coffee3
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(09-20-2020 04:39 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
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(09-20-2020 12:00 PM)Ragu Wrote:  I don't buy that. I think Florida Atlantic could have beat App last year. We destroyed smu without our coach and many of our best players.

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Yeah, I was waiting for some of the UAB and FAU posters to kind of add to that.

But that's definitely the perception right now. Especially because last year's App team was a top 25 team. I think they probably were better than us last year. But I think we have the opportunity to turn that tide now.

I still believe App is a strong team in 2020, and it looks like we might hold serve this year.

Puleeze. Enough about Appy. I've seen Appy play 4 times now over the past 2 years, and the results were mixed:

- Two were losses against GA Southern last year and Marshall this year. And the Marshall game wasn't really close. Doc Holliday played very conservatively in the 2nd half because he knew a 10-point lead was golden.
- A very narrow win against a Charlotte team playing with an obviously injured QB.
- A nice win over a 2019 UAB team that overachieved in CUSA, but did not consider it "their year".

I'm still not impressed with Appy St. And that's not a posturing statement. It's just a statement of fact. I don't get what's "all that" about Appy. They are okay....I'm not saying they suck or anything, but I think my own LA Tech --who has still never lost a game to a Sunbelt opponent and currently rides a 6-game win streak in bowl games-- would compete just fine with Appy year in and year out.

Ha, you cherry picked our three worst games in the last 2 years to disparage App as well as a game where we beat up on your West Division champ with an interim coach. What has LA Techy done other than win a conference championship every 10 years (2 Since 1984)?

I didn't "cherry pick", you paranoid prick. Those are the 4 Appy games I've watched. I watched the Appy-GA Southern game because it was on national TV at night last year, and it was the only game on. All of the remaining Appy games I've watched have been against CUSA teams; UAB, Charlotte & Marshall. Maybe those are some of your worst performances because you finally stepped up to the big leagues? LOL!

You don't actually think I would watch Appy play another Sunbelt school do ya? LOL!

Easy Hog. He’s new. 100 posts. Cut him some slack. We don’t want to be intolerable over here. He made a case for his team as we would ours. Stay frosty brother.
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(09-20-2020 04:53 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  
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(09-20-2020 12:03 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Yeah, I was waiting for some of the UAB and FAU posters to kind of add to that.

But that's definitely the perception right now. Especially because last year's App team was a top 25 team. I think they probably were better than us last year. But I think we have the opportunity to turn that tide now.

I still believe App is a strong team in 2020, and it looks like we might hold serve this year.

Puleeze. Enough about Appy. I've seen Appy play 4 times now over the past 2 years, and the results were mixed:

- Two were losses against GA Southern last year and Marshall this year. And the Marshall game wasn't really close. Doc Holliday played very conservatively in the 2nd half because he knew a 10-point lead was golden.
- A very narrow win against a Charlotte team playing with an obviously injured QB.
- A nice win over a 2019 UAB team that overachieved in CUSA, but did not consider it "their year".

I'm still not impressed with Appy St. And that's not a posturing statement. It's just a statement of fact. I don't get what's "all that" about Appy. They are okay....I'm not saying they suck or anything, but I think my own LA Tech --who has still never lost a game to a Sunbelt opponent and currently rides a 6-game win streak in bowl games-- would compete just fine with Appy year in and year out.

Ha, you cherry picked our three worst games in the last 2 years to disparage App as well as a game where we beat up on your West Division champ with an interim coach. What has LA Techy done other than win a conference championship every 10 years (2 Since 1984)?

I didn't "cherry pick", you paranoid goofball. Those are the 4 Appy games I've watched. I watched the Appy-GA Southern game because it was on national TV at night last year, and it was the only game on. All of the remaining Appy games I've watched have been against CUSA teams; UAB, Charlotte & Marshall. Maybe those are some of your worst performances because you finally stepped up to the big leagues? LOL!

You don't actually think I would watch Appy play another Sunbelt school do ya? LOL!

Easy Hog. He’s new. 100 posts. Cut him some slack. We don’t want to be intolerable over here. He made a case for his team as we would ours. Stay frosty brother.

Fair enough. Well, congratulations on the big win yesterday. Marshall played a really nice game yesterday, and THAT'S what should be getting recognized from Appy fans here instead of all the sniping. I look forward to our meeting with you guys in Ruston.
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(09-20-2020 04:59 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 04:53 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 04:39 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 01:13 PM)Appvette Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 12:28 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  Puleeze. Enough about Appy. I've seen Appy play 4 times now over the past 2 years, and the results were mixed:

- Two were losses against GA Southern last year and Marshall this year. And the Marshall game wasn't really close. Doc Holliday played very conservatively in the 2nd half because he knew a 10-point lead was golden.
- A very narrow win against a Charlotte team playing with an obviously injured QB.
- A nice win over a 2019 UAB team that overachieved in CUSA, but did not consider it "their year".

I'm still not impressed with Appy St. And that's not a posturing statement. It's just a statement of fact. I don't get what's "all that" about Appy. They are okay....I'm not saying they suck or anything, but I think my own LA Tech --who has still never lost a game to a Sunbelt opponent and currently rides a 6-game win streak in bowl games-- would compete just fine with Appy year in and year out.

Ha, you cherry picked our three worst games in the last 2 years to disparage App as well as a game where we beat up on your West Division champ with an interim coach. What has LA Techy done other than win a conference championship every 10 years (2 Since 1984)?

I didn't "cherry pick", you paranoid goofball. Those are the 4 Appy games I've watched. I watched the Appy-GA Southern game because it was on national TV at night last year, and it was the only game on. All of the remaining Appy games I've watched have been against CUSA teams; UAB, Charlotte & Marshall. Maybe those are some of your worst performances because you finally stepped up to the big leagues? LOL!

You don't actually think I would watch Appy play another Sunbelt school do ya? LOL!

Easy Hog. He’s new. 100 posts. Cut him some slack. We don’t want to be intolerable over here. He made a case for his team as we would ours. Stay frosty brother.

Fair enough. Well, congratulations on the big win yesterday. Marshall played a really nice game yesterday, and THAT'S what should be getting recognized from Appy fans here instead of all the sniping. I look forward to our meeting with you guys in Ruston.

I’m with you on that. Of course, fans make excuses. To be expected, but the realist fb fans can accept that they got beaten and that their mistakes, for the most part, were as a result of the defense/offense they were facing.

I am really looking forward to our first trip to Ruston in SEVEN years. Wish I could go. Maybe I can.. time will tell..
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And thanks for the congrats on the win.
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App played 9 games on National TV last year sorry you missed all the ones we played well, every G5 program would have enjoyed the NC and SC games.
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(09-20-2020 06:08 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  App played 9 games on National TV last year sorry you missed all the ones we played well, every G5 program would have enjoyed the NC and SC games.

Congratulations.
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(09-20-2020 12:58 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 12:28 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 12:03 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
(09-20-2020 12:00 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(09-19-2020 10:11 PM)rileylives Wrote:  2014 champions vs champions CUSA > Sun Belt
2015 champions vs champions CUSA > Sun Belt
2016 champions vs champions CUSA > Sun Belt
2017 champions vs champions CUSA > Sun Belt

2018 champions vs champions Sun Belt > CUSA
2019 champions vs champions Sun Belt > CUSA

2020 best vs best CUSA > Sun Belt (too early to tell about champs)

So that's two years out of 7.
I don't buy that. I think Florida Atlantic could have beat App last year. We destroyed smu without our coach and many of our best players.

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Yeah, I was waiting for some of the UAB and FAU posters to kind of add to that.

But that's definitely the perception right now. Especially because last year's App team was a top 25 team. I think they probably were better than us last year. But I think we have the opportunity to turn that tide now.

I still believe App is a strong team in 2020, and it looks like we might hold serve this year.

Puleeze. Enough about Appy. I've seen Appy play 4 times now over the past 2 years, and the results were mixed:

- Two were losses against GA Southern last year and Marshall this year. And the Marshall game wasn't really close. Doc Holliday played very conservatively in the 2nd half because he knew a 10-point lead was golden.
- A very narrow win against a Charlotte team playing with an obviously injured QB.
- A nice win over a 2019 UAB team that overachieved in CUSA, but did not consider it "their year".

I'm still not impressed with Appy St. And that's not a posturing statement. It's just a statement of fact. I don't get what's "all that" about Appy. They are okay....I'm not saying they suck or anything, but I think my own LA Tech --who has still never lost a game to a Sunbelt opponent and currently rides a 6-game win streak in bowl games-- would compete just fine with Appy year in and year out.

Good post and I totally agree. They are decent G5 program and of course the cream of the weak Sunbelt. They played against a weak Tennessee team at home and got man handled.

Marshall should view the result as a decent win against a decent program. Nothing more. Now if Marshall would have beat Boise last year now that would have been a good win against a top G5 team.

Tech is undefeated (includes beating the undefeated Sunbelt champ) against the Sunbelt for a reason.

Good post Dawgxas, completely agree.
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As an FAU fan I am confident we would’ve beaten App State last year.
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(09-22-2020 07:04 AM)Seminowl Wrote:  As an FAU fan I am confident we would’ve beaten App State last year.

It would have to appear so, based on common opposition:

FAU @ Charlotte W 45-27
FAU vs. UAB W 49-6

App State vs. Charlotte W 56-41
App State vs. UAB W 31-17
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(09-22-2020 07:10 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(09-22-2020 07:04 AM)Seminowl Wrote:  As an FAU fan I am confident we would’ve beaten App State last year.

It would have to appear so, based on common opposition:

FAU @ Charlotte W 45-27
FAU vs. UAB W 49-6

App State vs. Charlotte W 56-41
App State vs. UAB W 31-17


Ah, the good ole’ transitive property in a sports argument...


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