(09-20-2020 07:54 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Ugh, hopefully they meet soon! Tuesday, I'm hearing?

I was saying earlier basketball season approaching too. Any movement on that?

(09-19-2020 06:03 PM)george14 Wrote:  I think the best plan is to play a short season (6 games) and try to play teams close geographically. No divisions, just a conference.

Talking out of my arse here but there will be irreparable harm done if every conference is playing minus the MAC. That looks terrible for recruiting and even worse for the dignity of our conference financially.

Save me the “OMG ITS DANGEROUS” rhetoric. These athletes are under supervision and tested. They are safer than any of us.

At this point it's a testing/budget thing. NCAA is mandating at least daily tests for all involved. At $100/test, that adds up quick.

Not every conference is playing. The PAC & MW are still sitting. The other G5 conferences were fortunate they were able to have a money game.

Nobody is doing daily. Weekly (1x or 2x), but not daily.

(09-21-2020 02:56 PM)shankapotamus1 Wrote:  

(09-20-2020 07:54 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Ugh, hopefully they meet soon! Tuesday, I'm hearing?

I was saying earlier basketball season approaching too. Any movement on that?

(09-19-2020 06:03 PM)george14 Wrote:  I think the best plan is to play a short season (6 games) and try to play teams close geographically. No divisions, just a conference.

Talking out of my arse here but there will be irreparable harm done if every conference is playing minus the MAC. That looks terrible for recruiting and even worse for the dignity of our conference financially.

Save me the “OMG ITS DANGEROUS” rhetoric. These athletes are under supervision and tested. They are safer than any of us.

At this point it's a testing/budget thing. NCAA is mandating at least daily tests for all involved. At $100/test, that adds up quick.

Not every conference is playing. The PAC & MW are still sitting. The other G5 conferences were fortunate they were able to have a money game.

Nobody is doing daily. Weekly (1x or 2x), but not daily.

See I'm under the impression it's daily & that's why it'd be such a big hit financially. If 1 or 2X a week, then I go from 'wanting a fall season but understanding why it can't be done' to 'WTF are we doing not playing'.

My plan would be to schedule 8 games, but prepare for some teams to only play 6 or 7 if something breaks out. I also believe they are at less risk on campus than roaming around their communities.
I think it's important to play now for a myriad of reasons...and I also think this IS the window. The teams that started playing earlier this month were right. We probably have until year end of a leveling off with small scale hotspots here and there. During January-Spring we will probably see seasonal rises in virus transmission like we always do for every virus.

As I've said before.., I don't think as a nation we should become so scared of dying (or getting sick) that we forget to live. Schedule some football games and let's play.

Well stated i agree

According to an article in the Dayton Daily News today The Big Ten will play their games this season with no fans. The article also says they are playing strictly because they need the TV money and possibly playoff and/or Bowl money to keep from cutting huge numbers of sports.

So if we have no fans this Fall, wouldn't we be better off playing in the Spring where we might get at least partial attendance. Either way the season is likely to be 8 league games and a championship game. TV money might be better in the Spring, weather might be better. I kind of lost interest in the Fall when I read that the Big Ten will allow no fans. I am assuming we would do the same.

(09-21-2020 10:34 PM)DICK Wrote:  According to an article in the Dayton Daily News today The Big Ten will play their games this season with no fans. The article also says they are playing strictly because they need the TV money and possibly playoff and/or Bowl money to keep from cutting huge numbers of sports.

So if we have no fans this Fall, wouldn't we be better off playing in the Spring where we might get at least partial attendance. Either way the season is likely to be 8 league games and a championship game. TV money might be better in the Spring, weather might be better. I kind of lost interest in the Fall when I read that the Big Ten will allow no fans. I am assuming we would do the same.

I mostly agree. Don't really see the benefit to playing a shortened fall season with the pandemic still a very real issue. plus, with the big10 and all jumping back in that just directs attention elsewhere. spring football with actual fans seems more fun, especially since there will be no non-conf play either way. just feels like the MAC will get lost in the shuffle next month while losing any moral collateral they built up by being the first league to postpone play and put safety first. i mean, i'll still watch some games, but not convinced.

Fans do not come on beautiful fall days no fan is going to come in a sleet storm in march. Spring is insanity. Numbets continue to decrease along with death rate. With testing and proper protocols in place i think MAC can return safely.

(09-22-2020 04:52 AM)pono Wrote:  

(09-21-2020 10:34 PM)DICK Wrote:  According to an article in the Dayton Daily News today The Big Ten will play their games this season with no fans. The article also says they are playing strictly because they need the TV money and possibly playoff and/or Bowl money to keep from cutting huge numbers of sports.

So if we have no fans this Fall, wouldn't we be better off playing in the Spring where we might get at least partial attendance. Either way the season is likely to be 8 league games and a championship game. TV money might be better in the Spring, weather might be better. I kind of lost interest in the Fall when I read that the Big Ten will allow no fans. I am assuming we would do the same.

I mostly agree. Don't really see the benefit to playing a shortened fall season with the pandemic still a very real issue. plus, with the big10 and all jumping back in that just directs attention elsewhere. spring football with actual fans seems more fun, especially since there will be no non-conf play either way. just feels like the MAC will get lost in the shuffle next month while losing any moral collateral they built up by being the first league to postpone play and put safety first. i mean, i'll still watch some games, but not convinced.

What do you think a Spring season would actually do for the MAC? If you factor in weather and the need to rest players ahead of starting camps for Fall 2021 season, you're looking at maybe a 4-5 game spring season. You're also looking at a situation where players injured in the Spring wouldn't be healthy in time for Fall 2021 full season campaigns.

Not even to mention that there's no guarantee COVID will be any better in March than it is now. If anything, things may get worse as we get into December-February up north.

My thought as well

Gents, don't forget the MAC will likely need to play this fall to guarantee its share of the CFP money.

FIRE UP CHIPS! :)

I don't think fans in the stadium is a good measure of fall vs spring. With restrictions who knows how many will be in attendance? I think it can be done but unless the league, CFP money, whatever, pays for testing the Presidents are going to be hesitant to spend money that they don't have. Lots of faculty/staff layoffs are or will be occurring on campuses and saying we need a couple hundred million to ensure football can be played is going to be a tough sell for the Presidents.

And cases were going down, the 7-day average has been trending up again for the past week or so.

Was hoping after the BigTen that the MAC would definitely follow, Lisa Freeman/NIU or not.

The MAC could not cancel their season fast enough, without any real data and without even exploring the possibility of a delayed start...
...and they will be last to come back if they do at all.

https://twitter.com/TonyPaul1984/status/...7321821184

(09-22-2020 01:12 PM)zrb2 Wrote:  The MAC could not cancel their season fast enough, without any real data and without even exploring the possibility of a delayed start...
...and they will be last to come back if they do at all.

https://twitter.com/TonyPaul1984/status/...7321821184

Many on Twitter are saying a decision could be announced anytime from tonight until Monday. WOTS is pointing to a November 7 start date.

My guess is they are playing a 6 game season.

Yeah this is according to sir yacht. Not sure how credible he is but he has some whispers it appears. Hopefully soon news is announced soon

No decision till Monday... but time is of the essence?>

(09-22-2020 01:20 PM)george14 Wrote:  

(09-22-2020 01:12 PM)zrb2 Wrote:  The MAC could not cancel their season fast enough, without any real data and without even exploring the possibility of a delayed start...
...and they will be last to come back if they do at all.

https://twitter.com/TonyPaul1984/status/...7321821184

Many on Twitter are saying a decision could be announced anytime from tonight until Monday. WOTS is pointing to a November 7 start date.

My guess is they are playing a 6 game season.

If a season comes to fruition, it's to keep players engaged and out of the transfer portal, get us a little money from the CFP pot, and minimize recruiting damage we would've seen if we opt out. All valid reasons.

We'll get our MAC "fix". But we all know it'll just be a series of glorified scrimmages, not unlike the rest of the college football world. No fun OOC games, no fans or bands, no bowls except maybe the MAC champion.

Likely a few postponements and cancellations along the way, and starting in early November (into the thick of regular flu season) instead of early September like CUSA, AAC and SBC may bite us.

That said, we've got players and coaches on pins and needles. Would rather they not lead them on and wait 6 more days to decide.

(09-22-2020 01:55 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  No decision till Monday... but time is of the essence?>

Monday FFS why wait? Again this appears just kicking the can. Ridiculous leadership

(09-22-2020 02:26 PM)cmufanatic Wrote:  

(09-22-2020 01:55 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  No decision till Monday... but time is of the essence?>

Monday FFS why wait? Again this appears just kicking the can. Ridiculous leadership

You must be talking about certain presidents as have always great respect for Jon Steinbrecher. Feel he is one of the best G5 and non FBS conference commissioners.

(09-22-2020 01:55 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  No decision till Monday... but time is of the essence?>

It said "by Monday", so no, it's not necessarily Monday. It may be sooner.