(09-16-2020 08:15 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 09:22 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 09:08 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  

(09-15-2020 07:03 PM)rileylives Wrote:  I have to be completely honest. I'm a little shocked so many on here do not see the big picture ramifications on the line.

So far 66% of the vote is going towards "no"

Or the counter point could be we are shocked at the self inflated importance one has of their program....with all due respect.

I don't think you read all of the posts, but that's a weird take.

I made it pretty clear how I feel.

The point that you actually made....

if someone disagrees with your point. They must be wrong. I havent read all the post or counted but my guess, at least 3 times and probably more. You told people they were wrong for not seeing it the way you do.

I voted no because lets be honest...its not very important to CUSA at all. Win or lose. Its good for Marshall and Appy to get a game on national TV but that's the end of it.

If Marshall win by 30 or if Appy wins by 30..once the Big10 and SEC starts playing. People will look at this game just as what it is. A filler game between two team that means nothing in the big picture of college football. Two good little programs.

Nothing personal in my comment I just dont see it as important in the short or long term. Didnt FAU play a P5 team on ABC last year? How many games did past CUSA schools play on national TV? Honestly it really dont matter for something to be important for a conference...

something national needs to be on the line. No I'm not talking about poll ranking in a season where the Big 10 and Pac 12 are not in the polls.

Good Post. This earlier in the season this game doesn’t mean a whole lot.

Let’s be honest the rankings don’t mean much either right now especially since 3 conferences that usually have ranked teams would be ranked ahead of Appy.

Now the primetime slot has meaning but it is against a G5 school that no one sees as a football power.

Now if Marshall was playing say big time P5 and won, yes that would be a game worth remembering.

When Boise took down #5 Oregon earlier in the season 10 years ago, Now that is a game I remember. A fight broke out after the game and Oregon running back knock a Boise player out.

(09-16-2020 07:39 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  I've come to find on this thread and on others, that there is a correlation with the football fans who resort to attacking another fanbase intelligence, academics, or location with a lack of football success or tradition. This whole week I have never seen Marshall fans resort to any personal attacks of any kind, I wonder if that's a correlation to the proud tradition numerous examples they have with their football program?
I will ask this, Marshall has earned their respect, has your program???

I am super excited about this matchup. Hope it's a well played, injury free ball game that both fan bases can be proud of their team's performance no matter the outcome. Go Apps!

LOL if you guys can't take a punch don't throw one. Respect, academics and correlation whoa look at this appy talking crazy big words for his kindergarten standards LOLOL. Let me be honest nobody gives a **** on this board to any of those words you uttered. I don't think there is enough of that to pass around on a message board of all places. One thing is pretty clear you guys absolutely suck at smack and should join the smack talk satellite center down there in Statesboro, they'll teach you a thing or two. Now continue with your back patting and your bloated sense of attention for respect. I hope Marshall creams the **** out of you guys and you make the trek back to Appalachia with your ass on fire. Take care Yosef.

(09-17-2020 06:03 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 07:39 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  I've come to find on this thread and on others, that there is a correlation with the football fans who resort to attacking another fanbase intelligence, academics, or location with a lack of football success or tradition. This whole week I have never seen Marshall fans resort to any personal attacks of any kind, I wonder if that's a correlation to the proud tradition numerous examples they have with their football program?
I will ask this, Marshall has earned their respect, has your program???

I am super excited about this matchup. Hope it's a well played, injury free ball game that both fan bases can be proud of their team's performance no matter the outcome. Go Apps!

LOL if you guys can't take a punch don't throw one. Respect, academics and correlation whoa look at this appy talking crazy big words for his kindergarten standards LOLOL. Let me be honest nobody gives a **** on this board to any of those words you uttered. I don't think there is enough of that to pass around on a message board of all places. One thing is pretty clear you guys absolutely suck at smack and should join the smack talk satellite center down there in Statesboro, they'll teach you a thing or two. Now continue with your back patting and your bloated sense of attention for respect. I hope Marshall creams the **** out of you guys and you make the trek back to Appalachia with your ass on fire. Take care Yosef.

Ah, perfect timing. Here's a great example of a fanbase trash talking with absolutely zero football success and tradition. Thank you for sharing.

(09-17-2020 06:14 AM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 06:03 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 07:39 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  I've come to find on this thread and on others, that there is a correlation with the football fans who resort to attacking another fanbase intelligence, academics, or location with a lack of football success or tradition. This whole week I have never seen Marshall fans resort to any personal attacks of any kind, I wonder if that's a correlation to the proud tradition numerous examples they have with their football program?
I will ask this, Marshall has earned their respect, has your program???

I am super excited about this matchup. Hope it's a well played, injury free ball game that both fan bases can be proud of their team's performance no matter the outcome. Go Apps!

LOL if you guys can't take a punch don't throw one. Respect, academics and correlation whoa look at this appy talking crazy big words for his kindergarten standards LOLOL. Let me be honest nobody gives a **** on this board to any of those words you uttered. I don't think there is enough of that to pass around on a message board of all places. One thing is pretty clear you guys absolutely suck at smack and should join the smack talk satellite center down there in Statesboro, they'll teach you a thing or two. Now continue with your back patting and your bloated sense of attention for respect. I hope Marshall creams the **** out of you guys and you make the trek back to Appalachia with your ass on fire. Take care Yosef.

Ah, perfect timing. Here's a great example of a fanbase trash talking with absolutely zero football success and tradition. Thank you for sharing.

You gotta do better than that. Trash talking, that is not even close.

P.S The invitation still stands and if you guys want to go at it i suggest you head to our board where we can have fun with out interrupting our conference brethren.

(09-17-2020 06:17 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 06:14 AM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 06:03 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 07:39 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  I've come to find on this thread and on others, that there is a correlation with the football fans who resort to attacking another fanbase intelligence, academics, or location with a lack of football success or tradition. This whole week I have never seen Marshall fans resort to any personal attacks of any kind, I wonder if that's a correlation to the proud tradition numerous examples they have with their football program?
I will ask this, Marshall has earned their respect, has your program???

I am super excited about this matchup. Hope it's a well played, injury free ball game that both fan bases can be proud of their team's performance no matter the outcome. Go Apps!

LOL if you guys can't take a punch don't throw one. Respect, academics and correlation whoa look at this appy talking crazy big words for his kindergarten standards LOLOL. Let me be honest nobody gives a **** on this board to any of those words you uttered. I don't think there is enough of that to pass around on a message board of all places. One thing is pretty clear you guys absolutely suck at smack and should join the smack talk satellite center down there in Statesboro, they'll teach you a thing or two. Now continue with your back patting and your bloated sense of attention for respect. I hope Marshall creams the **** out of you guys and you make the trek back to Appalachia with your ass on fire. Take care Yosef.

Ah, perfect timing. Here's a great example of a fanbase trash talking with absolutely zero football success and tradition. Thank you for sharing.

You gotta do better than that. Trash talking, that is not even close.

P.S The invitation still stands and if you guys want to go at it i suggest you head to our board where we can have fun with out interrupting our conference brethren.

Remember that guy that showed up at your high school party with wine coolers? He would come in with his chest out thinking he was really cool, but everyone was really laughing behind his back. Trash talk from ODU fans is comical, just like wine cooler kid. Keep it up. You're embarrassing yourself.

(09-17-2020 06:14 AM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 06:03 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 07:39 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  I've come to find on this thread and on others, that there is a correlation with the football fans who resort to attacking another fanbase intelligence, academics, or location with a lack of football success or tradition. This whole week I have never seen Marshall fans resort to any personal attacks of any kind, I wonder if that's a correlation to the proud tradition numerous examples they have with their football program?
I will ask this, Marshall has earned their respect, has your program???

I am super excited about this matchup. Hope it's a well played, injury free ball game that both fan bases can be proud of their team's performance no matter the outcome. Go Apps!

LOL if you guys can't take a punch don't throw one. Respect, academics and correlation whoa look at this appy talking crazy big words for his kindergarten standards LOLOL. Let me be honest nobody gives a **** on this board to any of those words you uttered. I don't think there is enough of that to pass around on a message board of all places. One thing is pretty clear you guys absolutely suck at smack and should join the smack talk satellite center down there in Statesboro, they'll teach you a thing or two. Now continue with your back patting and your bloated sense of attention for respect. I hope Marshall creams the **** out of you guys and you make the trek back to Appalachia with your ass on fire. Take care Yosef.

Ah, perfect timing. Here's a great example of a fanbase trash talking with absolutely zero football success and tradition. Thank you for sharing.

I can see why App fans might have the view you shared. But the correlation is due to App fans coming into threads (at least this thread) and taking jabs at those programs (and only those programs) that as you say "lack...football success or tradition", namely Charlotte and ODU. We were pulled into this by App fans, we were participating in the thread and didn't say jack about our own program or yours until provoked. So if you throw **** at us we're going to throw some back. But we didn't make personal attacks or talk about your lack of an airport, we attacked the online behavior of your fanbase. You guys want to act the bully and pretend that we're the ones that are insecure? Try testing your theory and taking a shot at Marshall like you did at us and see if they don't respond in kind. I know they will, personal experience. But I don't think you will, not out of respect but because you're not sure of the outcome. And I guarantee that if you win at some point in the future you'll be crowing about it and about your overall record against CUSA programs in some form of smack talk. So that makes you cowards. And to reiterate, if you really want to go at it with ODU fans we are game we're a proud fanbase and you're not our betters but let's take it somewhere else, this thread is not about us.

GO HERD!!!

(09-16-2020 08:37 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  App State, even as successful as they've been, are only 1-7 against P5 competition since joining the Sun Belt.

Splitting hairs...2-7

App beat 2 P5’s just last season, UNC and USC. Lost to Michigan, Clemson, Georgia, Miami, Wake (would be game-winning FG blocked), Tennessee (OT), Penn State (OT). All pretty high level competition.

Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades but just adding context. That record could be 5-4. (Or it could be 0-7 if we don’t block a game-tying NC field goal or the SC lineman doesn’t jump offsides on the would-be game-winning TD pass). Context matters.

clt says appys are posting on weather related chat pages here. their obsession with cusa is not healthy.

2-7 vs P5 with 2 more going to OT and an additional game winning FG blocked

App vs G5 since 2014 is a much different story

App vs CUSA: 7-1
App vs G5 OOC: 12-1

(09-17-2020 09:12 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says appys are posting on weather related chat pages here. their obsession with cusa is not healthy.

Don't you have a basketball team to cheer for or something? You know, the one that lost to App last year.


Edit: Oh that's right. All your sports are failing except tennis

(09-17-2020 09:08 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 08:37 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  App State, even as successful as they've been, are only 1-7 against P5 competition since joining the Sun Belt.

Splitting hairs...2-7

App beat 2 P5’s just last season, UNC and USC. Lost to Michigan, Clemson, Georgia, Miami, Wake (would be game-winning FG blocked), Tennessee (OT), Penn State (OT). All pretty high level competition.

Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades but just adding context. That record could be 5-4. (Or it could be 0-7 if we don’t block a game-tying NC field goal or the SC lineman doesn’t jump offsides on the would-be game-winning TD pass). Context matters.

How does one get to play Wake Forest?

(09-17-2020 09:29 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 09:08 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 08:37 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  App State, even as successful as they've been, are only 1-7 against P5 competition since joining the Sun Belt.

Splitting hairs...2-7

App beat 2 P5’s just last season, UNC and USC. Lost to Michigan, Clemson, Georgia, Miami, Wake (would be game-winning FG blocked), Tennessee (OT), Penn State (OT). All pretty high level competition.

Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades but just adding context. That record could be 5-4. (Or it could be 0-7 if we don’t block a game-tying NC field goal or the SC lineman doesn’t jump offsides on the would-be game-winning TD pass). Context matters.

How does one get to play Wake Forest?

Pre COVID you gotta be ducking lucky, to be honest. App and Wake set up their H:H years ago after App moved to FBS but before it was obvious they wouldn't be a push over. COVID actually played into App's favor in regards to Wake vs App. Losing the away game this year got App a home game plus a rescheduled away game with them.

(09-17-2020 09:08 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 08:37 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  App State, even as successful as they've been, are only 1-7 against P5 competition since joining the Sun Belt.

Splitting hairs...2-7

App beat 2 P5’s just last season, UNC and USC. Lost to Michigan, Clemson, Georgia, Miami, Wake (would be game-winning FG blocked), Tennessee (OT), Penn State (OT). All pretty high level competition.

Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades but just adding context. That record could be 5-4. (Or it could be 0-7 if we don’t block a game-tying NC field goal or the SC lineman doesn’t jump offsides on the would-be game-winning TD pass). Context matters.

nobody (outside of UT and PSU fans) specifically remembers the close calls, but it plays into the narrative of App being a competitive program.

(09-17-2020 09:30 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 09:29 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 09:08 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 08:37 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  App State, even as successful as they've been, are only 1-7 against P5 competition since joining the Sun Belt.

Splitting hairs...2-7

App beat 2 P5’s just last season, UNC and USC. Lost to Michigan, Clemson, Georgia, Miami, Wake (would be game-winning FG blocked), Tennessee (OT), Penn State (OT). All pretty high level competition.

Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades but just adding context. That record could be 5-4. (Or it could be 0-7 if we don’t block a game-tying NC field goal or the SC lineman doesn’t jump offsides on the would-be game-winning TD pass). Context matters.

How does one get to play Wake Forest?

Pre COVID you gotta be ducking lucky, to be honest. App and Wake set up their H:H years ago after App moved to FBS but before it was obvious they wouldn't be a push over. COVID actually played into App's favor in regards to Wake vs App. Losing the away game this year got App a home game plus a rescheduled away game with them.

We were scheduled to start the season with them at home this year. Hopefully it gets rescheduled but haven't heard word on that or our UVA home game.

(09-17-2020 09:30 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 09:29 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 09:08 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 08:37 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  App State, even as successful as they've been, are only 1-7 against P5 competition since joining the Sun Belt.

Splitting hairs...2-7

App beat 2 P5’s just last season, UNC and USC. Lost to Michigan, Clemson, Georgia, Miami, Wake (would be game-winning FG blocked), Tennessee (OT), Penn State (OT). All pretty high level competition.

Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades but just adding context. That record could be 5-4. (Or it could be 0-7 if we don’t block a game-tying NC field goal or the SC lineman doesn’t jump offsides on the would-be game-winning TD pass). Context matters.

How does one get to play Wake Forest?

Pre COVID you gotta be ducking lucky, to be honest. App and Wake set up their H:H years ago after App moved to FBS but before it was obvious they wouldn't be a push over. COVID actually played into App's favor in regards to Wake vs App. Losing the away game this year got App a home game plus a rescheduled away game with them.

Good to know.

FAU has been extremely bad against the P5 opposition. Granted, recently, year after year, our P5 opposition is limited to top 10 teams (#9 Wisconsin in 2017, #7 Oklahoma in 2018, #5 Ohio State in 2019)

(09-17-2020 09:08 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 08:37 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  App State, even as successful as they've been, are only 1-7 against P5 competition since joining the Sun Belt.

Splitting hairs...2-7

App beat 2 P5’s just last season, UNC and USC. Lost to Michigan, Clemson, Georgia, Miami, Wake (would be game-winning FG blocked), Tennessee (OT), Penn State (OT). All pretty high level competition.

Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades but just adding context. That record could be 5-4. (Or it could be 0-7 if we don’t block a game-tying NC field goal or the SC lineman doesn’t jump offsides on the would-be game-winning TD pass). Context matters.

Not splitting hairs at all. I missed the South Carolina game, so thanks for the correction. I also knew about a couple of those close calls. Like someone else said though, people without a direct affiliation to a school unfortunately only remember it when we win because it comes down to whether we fall in the "W" or the "L" column.

My experience has been that the perception among many t-shirt fans is that when a G5 plays a Cartel Member close but loses, the P5 just took 'em lightly but turned it up enough in the end to get the win. It's the rare occasions when we actually beat 'em that people sit up and take notice, so congrats on doing that twice last year. Not bad at all!

(09-17-2020 09:01 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 06:14 AM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 06:03 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 07:39 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  I've come to find on this thread and on others, that there is a correlation with the football fans who resort to attacking another fanbase intelligence, academics, or location with a lack of football success or tradition. This whole week I have never seen Marshall fans resort to any personal attacks of any kind, I wonder if that's a correlation to the proud tradition numerous examples they have with their football program?
I will ask this, Marshall has earned their respect, has your program???

I am super excited about this matchup. Hope it's a well played, injury free ball game that both fan bases can be proud of their team's performance no matter the outcome. Go Apps!

LOL if you guys can't take a punch don't throw one. Respect, academics and correlation whoa look at this appy talking crazy big words for his kindergarten standards LOLOL. Let me be honest nobody gives a **** on this board to any of those words you uttered. I don't think there is enough of that to pass around on a message board of all places. One thing is pretty clear you guys absolutely suck at smack and should join the smack talk satellite center down there in Statesboro, they'll teach you a thing or two. Now continue with your back patting and your bloated sense of attention for respect. I hope Marshall creams the **** out of you guys and you make the trek back to Appalachia with your ass on fire. Take care Yosef.

Ah, perfect timing. Here's a great example of a fanbase trash talking with absolutely zero football success and tradition. Thank you for sharing.

I can see why App fans might have the view you shared. But the correlation is due to App fans coming into threads (at least this thread) and taking jabs at those programs (and only those programs) that as you say "lack...football success or tradition", namely Charlotte and ODU. We were pulled into this by App fans, we were participating in the thread and didn't say jack about our own program or yours until provoked. So if you throw **** at us we're going to throw some back. But we didn't make personal attacks or talk about your lack of an airport, we attacked the online behavior of your fanbase. You guys want to act the bully and pretend that we're the ones that are insecure? Try testing your theory and taking a shot at Marshall like you did at us and see if they don't respond in kind. I know they will, personal experience. But I don't think you will, not out of respect but because you're not sure of the outcome. And I guarantee that if you win at some point in the future you'll be crowing about it and about your overall record against CUSA programs in some form of smack talk. So that makes you cowards. And to reiterate, if you really want to go at it with ODU fans we are game we're a proud fanbase and you're not our betters but let's take it somewhere else, this thread is not about us.

GO HERD!!!

1) This is a thread about Marshall vs App, naturally you're going to have App fans.
2) No need to take shots at Marshall as they have earned the respect as a football program.
3) Sure, it's brave to talk smack when you suck, but at the end of the day, no matter how much smack you talk, you still suck
4) The narrative that App fans started it and ODU didn't take jabs until "provoked" is a straight up lie and you know it.
5) What a complete waste of time for me to "go at it" on some other forum with a fanbase who's football program isn't even playing this year. That would be the definition of ignorance.

With all due respect, I think because ODU doesn't have games this year they have to do something - so why not talk trash. I don't blame them, what else is there to do?

And I find that App State's success causes some jealousy, some hype and excitement about CUSA and Sun Belt heavy weights going at it, and some of the App State fans being a bit - whats the word - confident.

Let ODU, or anyone for that matter, give any team hell on these forums, flex, etc. all they want. This is football, not chess.

(09-17-2020 12:55 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 09:01 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 06:14 AM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 06:03 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 07:39 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  I've come to find on this thread and on others, that there is a correlation with the football fans who resort to attacking another fanbase intelligence, academics, or location with a lack of football success or tradition. This whole week I have never seen Marshall fans resort to any personal attacks of any kind, I wonder if that's a correlation to the proud tradition numerous examples they have with their football program?
I will ask this, Marshall has earned their respect, has your program???

I am super excited about this matchup. Hope it's a well played, injury free ball game that both fan bases can be proud of their team's performance no matter the outcome. Go Apps!

LOL if you guys can't take a punch don't throw one. Respect, academics and correlation whoa look at this appy talking crazy big words for his kindergarten standards LOLOL. Let me be honest nobody gives a **** on this board to any of those words you uttered. I don't think there is enough of that to pass around on a message board of all places. One thing is pretty clear you guys absolutely suck at smack and should join the smack talk satellite center down there in Statesboro, they'll teach you a thing or two. Now continue with your back patting and your bloated sense of attention for respect. I hope Marshall creams the **** out of you guys and you make the trek back to Appalachia with your ass on fire. Take care Yosef.

Ah, perfect timing. Here's a great example of a fanbase trash talking with absolutely zero football success and tradition. Thank you for sharing.

I can see why App fans might have the view you shared. But the correlation is due to App fans coming into threads (at least this thread) and taking jabs at those programs (and only those programs) that as you say "lack...football success or tradition", namely Charlotte and ODU. We were pulled into this by App fans, we were participating in the thread and didn't say jack about our own program or yours until provoked. So if you throw **** at us we're going to throw some back. But we didn't make personal attacks or talk about your lack of an airport, we attacked the online behavior of your fanbase. You guys want to act the bully and pretend that we're the ones that are insecure? Try testing your theory and taking a shot at Marshall like you did at us and see if they don't respond in kind. I know they will, personal experience. But I don't think you will, not out of respect but because you're not sure of the outcome. And I guarantee that if you win at some point in the future you'll be crowing about it and about your overall record against CUSA programs in some form of smack talk. So that makes you cowards. And to reiterate, if you really want to go at it with ODU fans we are game we're a proud fanbase and you're not our betters but let's take it somewhere else, this thread is not about us.

GO HERD!!!

1) This is a thread about Marshall vs App, naturally you're going to have App fans.
2) No need to take shots at Marshall as they have earned the respect as a football program.
3) Sure, it's brave to talk smack when you suck, but at the end of the day, no matter how much smack you talk, you still suck
4) The narrative that App fans started it and ODU didn't take jabs until "provoked" is a straight up lie and you know it.
5) What a complete waste of time for me to "go at it" on some other forum with a fanbase who's football program isn't even playing this year. That would be the definition of ignorance.

1) Naturally
2) Have it your way. You don't like pregame smack talk that's fine with me, just don't gloat afterwards.
3) Ah, a jab at ODU. From an App fan. When we're not even on your schedule. What's this about? So we haven't earned your respect so we're free game? Well, your fanbase is weak and you should be embarrassed. See how that works? Respect goes both ways.
4) Receipts : https://csnbbs.com/thread-906877-post-16...id16995824 I ignored this one, 12thmonarch replied with something of the nature of "our coach sucked and we fired him" pretty harmless. Then you sloppies came back and it was game on. You can read it. If there were fires shot before this let me know.
5) Again, your fanbase is weak and insecure.

(09-17-2020 01:06 PM)Goronic Wrote:  With all due respect, I think because ODU doesn't have games this year they have to do something - so why not talk trash. I don't blame them, what else is there to do?

And I find that App State's success causes some jealousy, some hype and excitement about CUSA and Sun Belt heavy weights going at it, and some of the App State fans being a bit - whats the word - confident.

Let ODU, or anyone for that matter, give any team hell on these forums, flex, etc. all they want. This is football, not chess.

App fans are only confident in games they've already won. That's their problem. ODU fans? We live here and as anyone else that lives here will attest to we are easily provoked whether we're playing or not. Should be a great game on primetime TV. Congrats and congrats on all your recent success.