Can the Big 10 vote to kick Nebraska out of their conference?

(09-12-2020 10:20 AM)Big Frog II Wrote:  Can the Big 10 vote to kick Nebraska out of their conference?

The Big 12 hopes so.

Information about the Big Ten's "Return to Competition Task Force":
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...l-in-2020/

The "Steering Committee" consists of presidents/chancellors from the following universities: Northwestern (Council of Presidents and Chancellors Chair), Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, Rutgers, Ohio State, Illinois, and Michigan State. All three of the schools rumored to have wanted to play are on the committee so that can help push towards playing.

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More details from Yahoo Sports...

Quote:For the Big Ten potentially returning to college football this fall, sources said the league has taken the step before the final step.

As part of the league’s return-to-competition task force, the medical committee made a lengthy presentation to the steering committee of eight presidents and chancellors on Saturday afternoon. Sources said that league officials have decided to present the league’s plan to return to play — medical, scheduling and television — formally to the full Big Ten Council of Presidents and Chancellors (COPC), sources told Yahoo Sports. That presentation is expected to take place on Sunday and culminate eventually with a vote, but that COPC vote isn’t guaranteed to take place directly after the expected presentation on Sunday.

While a vote on Sunday isn’t guaranteed, it’s likely to come at some point in the next 72 hours. That vote would likely determine both if and when the Big Ten would return to play this season.

The most optimistic date being discussed is Oct. 17, with a Big Ten championship game in late December. Still, nothing is certain. The league has two programs, Maryland and Wisconsin, currently on pause that would struggle to start on that date. The presidents could also decide to start later, as other dates that have been discussed include late November and January.

The Zoom call Saturday featured the steering committee of the return-to-play task force. This includes Morty Shapiro of Northwestern, who is the chair of the COPC. It also includes seven other university leaders — Joan Gabel of Minnesota, Ronnie Green of Nebraska, Bruce Harreld of Iowa, Jonathan Holloway of Rutgers, Kristina Johnson of Ohio State, Robert Jones of Illinois and Samuel Stanley of Michigan State.

It was essentially up to that group to evaluate the medical information brought forth today by the task force to decide whether the entire group of 14 presidents and chancellors should see the presentation and eventually vote on it. That was successful.

The medical information presented on Saturday was expected to be the most scrutinized. If the Big Ten is to return, sources made it clear to Yahoo Sports that they’d have to present a distinctly different picture medically than when they decided to postpone the season nearly six weeks ago. The league’s presidents and chancellors voted to postpone 11-3 at that time.

The biggest medical difference available today compared to Aug. 11, when the Big Ten decided to postpone the season, is mainstream availability of daily rapid testing. So far, the Pac-12 and Big 12 have announced partnerships to provide the testing for their schools.

Will it result in a vote to play ASAP?

(09-12-2020 07:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-12-2020 07:27 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(09-11-2020 11:10 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  What is the Big Slow?

It’s what insecure fans from weaker, underperforming conferences call the very stable, highly academically respected, and well compensated for their tv rights Big Ten Conference.

They are very big words for fans of a conference where, if you took away their best team in 2019, they were basically the AAC.

The ACC *was* basically the AAC last year, even with the ACC's best team factored in to the assessments.

What???

(09-12-2020 04:34 PM)usffan Wrote:  

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Well that would be bogus.

Lol. Big 10 feeling left out after the second week. Seeing the ACC football on OTA. G5 schools having prime time spots. Recruiting must be nosediving.
Question will be do the liberal governors allow them to play?

I would say I'm shocked that all of you somehow willed this into existence with your collective hollering and refusal to ever stop Being Mad Online Forever serving as some sort of gravy-drenched eldrich incantation, but this is 2020 and my brain is just numb at this point.

Whatever other latent superpowers y'all have, please don't aim them at me. You can have my wallet, credit cards, don't hurt me!

I'm pretty surprised B$G $0 is seriously reconsidering.

(09-12-2020 09:11 PM)bullet Wrote:  I'm pretty surprised B$G $0 is seriously reconsidering.

Given the results of today's games, i wouldn't be surprised if the Big 12 was reconsidering playing this season.

(09-12-2020 07:36 PM)HatterFan Wrote:  I would say I'm shocked that all of you somehow willed this into existence with your collective hollering and refusal to ever stop Being Mad Online Forever serving as some sort of gravy-drenched eldrich incantation, but this is 2020 and my brain is just numb at this point.

Whatever other latent superpowers y'all have, please don't aim them at me. You can have my wallet, credit cards, don't hurt me!

I have no idea what you're talking about, but my PMs are always open if you want to share your Mastercard with me

(09-12-2020 09:11 PM)bullet Wrote:  I'm pretty surprised B$G $0 is seriously reconsidering.

The lawsuit in Lincoln is making them sweat hard. As soon as the word "discovery" starts getting thrown around, you see tones changing.

(09-12-2020 10:07 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(09-12-2020 09:11 PM)bullet Wrote:  I'm pretty surprised B$G $0 is seriously reconsidering.

The lawsuit in Lincoln is making them sweat hard. As soon as the word "discovery" starts getting thrown around, you see tones changing.

Well that and the Nebraska lawsuit strikes hard at the weakest point of a College Sports GOR involving state non profits. Can an outside governing body or contract supersede what's best for the taxpayers of a state? This case is a back door for that in that the issue is the Big 10 placing a constraint upon Nebraska's right to earn by playing.

Oddly, privates are much more likely to be bound by GOR's. These contracts were mostly used for professional entertainers with regard to non performance. I'm not sure that stretching them to non profits is really workable but heretofore the money involved wasn't worth the lawsuits to test them.

When Florida State (hypothetical) wants to leave the SEC for what was in 2010 say 7 million more in media money in the SEC the cost of the case simply wasn't worth it. But when you talk about the shutting down an Athletic Department of a state school costing them nearly 130 million for the year you bet your arse it's worth the suit, especially if the state attorney general initiates the case.

I suspect that this singular aspect is more concerning to the Big 10 than even player's unions.

(09-12-2020 10:17 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-12-2020 10:07 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(09-12-2020 09:11 PM)bullet Wrote:  I'm pretty surprised B$G $0 is seriously reconsidering.

The lawsuit in Lincoln is making them sweat hard. As soon as the word "discovery" starts getting thrown around, you see tones changing.

Well that and the Nebraska lawsuit strikes hard at the weakest point of a College Sports GOR involving state non profits. Can an outside governing body or contract supersede what's best for the taxpayers of a state? This case is a back door for that in that the issue is the Big 10 placing a constraint upon Nebraska's right to earn by playing.

Oddly, privates are much more likely to be bound by GOR's. These contracts were mostly used for professional entertainers with regard to non performance. I'm not sure that stretching them to non profits is really workable but heretofore the money involved wasn't worth the lawsuits to test them.

When Florida State (hypothetical) wants to leave the SEC for what was in 2010 say 7 million more in media money in the SEC the cost of the case simply wasn't worth it. But when you talk about the shutting down an Athletic Department of a state school costing them nearly 130 million for the year you bet your arse it's worth the suit, especially if the state attorney general initiates the case.

I suspect that this singular aspect is more concerning to the Big 10 than even player's unions.

I think the issue could be thrown out of court as well. Big 12 is losing money from canceled/postponed games which gives the Big Ten more of a case because it cost schools more money to quarantine players for 14 days and on top of that, the testing the players. There is a chance a player could get seriously ill, and all the Big Ten will show is that they are doing this to protect the health and safety of the players. Second, Hippa Laws in place where the Big Ten to reveal them for the players who did caught the virus, and have health issues after they got better. Big Ten is being forced by Nebraska's judge, the lawyers, the players and Nebraska's State AG to show those medical records which is against the law. I don't think anybody in Nebraska have a case to get those records.

(09-12-2020 10:39 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-12-2020 10:17 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-12-2020 10:07 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(09-12-2020 09:11 PM)bullet Wrote:  I'm pretty surprised B$G $0 is seriously reconsidering.

The lawsuit in Lincoln is making them sweat hard. As soon as the word "discovery" starts getting thrown around, you see tones changing.

Well that and the Nebraska lawsuit strikes hard at the weakest point of a College Sports GOR involving state non profits. Can an outside governing body or contract supersede what's best for the taxpayers of a state? This case is a back door for that in that the issue is the Big 10 placing a constraint upon Nebraska's right to earn by playing.

Oddly, privates are much more likely to be bound by GOR's. These contracts were mostly used for professional entertainers with regard to non performance. I'm not sure that stretching them to non profits is really workable but heretofore the money involved wasn't worth the lawsuits to test them.

When Florida State (hypothetical) wants to leave the SEC for what was in 2010 say 7 million more in media money in the SEC the cost of the case simply wasn't worth it. But when you talk about the shutting down an Athletic Department of a state school costing them nearly 130 million for the year you bet your arse it's worth the suit, especially if the state attorney general initiates the case.

I suspect that this singular aspect is more concerning to the Big 10 than even player's unions.

I think the issue could be thrown out of court as well. Big 12 is losing money from canceled/postponed games which gives the Big Ten more of a case because it cost schools more money to quarantine players for 14 days and on top of that, the testing the players. There is a chance a player could get seriously ill, and all the Big Ten will show is that they are doing this to protect the health and safety of the players. Second, Hippa Laws in place where the Big Ten to reveal them for the players who did caught the virus, and have health issues after they got better. Big Ten is being forced by Nebraska's judge, the lawyers, the players and Nebraska's State AG to show those medical records which is against the law. I don't think anybody in Nebraska have a case to get those records.

If the Big Slow is forced by the court to release the information then the release of information is legal.

If they start at the end of October, It will be too late to have say at least 8 or 9 games in before they select teams for CFP. They would no room for error for a makeup game for COVID or anything else like severe weather. All the other conferences already did their schedule and shouldn't change it just to allow the Big10 to come in beyond fashionably late.

(09-12-2020 11:31 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  If they start at the end of October, It will be too late to have say at least 8 or 9 games in before they select teams for CFP. They would no room for error for a makeup game for COVID or anything else like severe weather. All the other conferences already did their schedule and shouldn't change it just to allow the Big10 to come in beyond fashionably late.

Wonder if they have lost any players. Texas played a receiver who transferred from Oregon after they cancelled. Guy only had 15 days of practice. I suspect their senior and junior serious NFL prospects will sit out if they play in the spring.

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