Sure its self-serving but he's right, right?

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...d-seasons?

I’m sure if he was still working in the PAC 12 he’d be singing a different tune

The majority of the PAC 12 players do not think it is safe to play. I only see a small loud mouth spoil brat players in the Big 10 want to.

(08-19-2020 04:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Sure its self-serving but he's right, right?

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...d-seasons?

If the school you are attending doesn’t offer a sport it seems way wrong to tell a student they can not leave and play else where. I guess you could keep believing in the spring football ruse.

(08-19-2020 04:46 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  The majority of the PAC 12 players do not think it is safe to play. I only see a small loud mouth spoil brat players in the Big 10 want to.

David, I can't tell, but do you think college football should not be played this Fall?

(08-19-2020 04:52 PM)UABGrad Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Sure its self-serving but he's right, right?

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...d-seasons?

If the school you are attending doesn’t offer a sport it seems way wrong to tell a student they can not leave and play else where. I guess you could keep believing in the spring football ruse.

I agree. You signed on with the understanding that you would play fall football. The B1G and PAC have essentially terminated the agreement.

(08-19-2020 05:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:52 PM)UABGrad Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Sure its self-serving but he's right, right?

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...d-seasons?

If the school you are attending doesn’t offer a sport it seems way wrong to tell a student they can not leave and play else where. I guess you could keep believing in the spring football ruse.

I agree. You signed on with the understanding that you would play fall football. The B1G and PAC have essentially terminated the agreement.

They also signed on with the understanding they would attend class and maintain a certain GPA. The players have been ignoring that one for years.

(08-19-2020 04:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Sure its self-serving but he's right, right?

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...d-seasons?

(08-19-2020 05:47 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 05:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:52 PM)UABGrad Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Sure its self-serving but he's right, right?

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...d-seasons?

If the school you are attending doesn’t offer a sport it seems way wrong to tell a student they can not leave and play else where. I guess you could keep believing in the spring football ruse.

I agree. You signed on with the understanding that you would play fall football. The B1G and PAC have essentially terminated the agreement.

They also signed on with the understanding they would attend class and maintain a certain GPA. The players have been ignoring that one for years.

I agree, but, flip a coin. Yeah, the kids forget that one, but, schools let it get this far.

(08-20-2020 06:03 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 05:47 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 05:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:52 PM)UABGrad Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Sure its self-serving but he's right, right?

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...d-seasons?

If the school you are attending doesn’t offer a sport it seems way wrong to tell a student they can not leave and play else where. I guess you could keep believing in the spring football ruse.

I agree. You signed on with the understanding that you would play fall football. The B1G and PAC have essentially terminated the agreement.

They also signed on with the understanding they would attend class and maintain a certain GPA. The players have been ignoring that one for years.

I agree, but, flip a coin. Yeah, the kids forget that one, but, schools let it get this far.

Yes, enforcing GPA and class attendance is the school's responsibility.

(08-20-2020 08:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 06:03 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 05:47 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 05:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:52 PM)UABGrad Wrote:  If the school you are attending doesn’t offer a sport it seems way wrong to tell a student they can not leave and play else where. I guess you could keep believing in the spring football ruse.

I agree. You signed on with the understanding that you would play fall football. The B1G and PAC have essentially terminated the agreement.

They also signed on with the understanding they would attend class and maintain a certain GPA. The players have been ignoring that one for years.

I agree, but, flip a coin. Yeah, the kids forget that one, but, schools let it get this far.

Yes, enforcing GPA and class attendance is the school's responsibility.

So your saying the schools violated that end of the contract too.

If the season in cancelled I don’t see why they wouldn’t get a waiver

Has there ever been a coach both loathed and loved at the same time?

(08-20-2020 08:27 AM)panite Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 08:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 06:03 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 05:47 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 05:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I agree. You signed on with the understanding that you would play fall football. The B1G and PAC have essentially terminated the agreement.

They also signed on with the understanding they would attend class and maintain a certain GPA. The players have been ignoring that one for years.

I agree, but, flip a coin. Yeah, the kids forget that one, but, schools let it get this far.

Yes, enforcing GPA and class attendance is the school's responsibility.

So your saying the schools violated that end of the contract too.

Yeah, but more so, it’s schools bringing in kids who have no basis of being there. It’s also, at best, having football operations run with the athletes as contractors. I’m recruited, told I’m a big deal, but am never meant to feel safe in my spot. I have to go where’s best for me. The schools fail on those fronts.

(08-20-2020 06:42 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  If the season in cancelled I don’t see why they wouldn’t get a waiver

Yes. Of course, covidoids will say the season has just been "postponed" to the Spring, not canceled.

But even if so, surely the draft implications and the drastic nature of a shift from Fall to Spring should be grounds for immediate transfers with no penalty from Fall non-playing to playing schools.

Funny that some of the most vocal posters here in favor of athlete's rights are suddenly backing the canceling conferences on this.

(08-19-2020 05:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:52 PM)UABGrad Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Sure its self-serving but he's right, right?

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...d-seasons?

If the school you are attending doesn’t offer a sport it seems way wrong to tell a student they can not leave and play else where. I guess you could keep believing in the spring football ruse.

I agree. You signed on with the understanding that you would play fall football. The B1G and PAC have essentially terminated the agreement.

But, nobody ever aspected that there is a very deadly pandemic going around. So, nobody broke any contracts.

(08-21-2020 06:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 05:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:52 PM)UABGrad Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Sure its self-serving but he's right, right?

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...d-seasons?

If the school you are attending doesn’t offer a sport it seems way wrong to tell a student they can not leave and play else where. I guess you could keep believing in the spring football ruse.

I agree. You signed on with the understanding that you would play fall football. The B1G and PAC have essentially terminated the agreement.

But, nobody ever aspected that there is a very deadly pandemic going around. So, nobody broke any contracts.

It doesn't matter what the cause of the Fall season cancellation is, if your school cancels football because Martians are landing and yet other schools are still playing, you should be able to transfer to the playing schools.

And really, why would the B1G or PAC resist this? They're not playing, so why should they be allowed to hold the athletes hostage to their covid policy?

(08-21-2020 06:23 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-21-2020 06:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 05:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:52 PM)UABGrad Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Sure its self-serving but he's right, right?

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...d-seasons?

If the school you are attending doesn’t offer a sport it seems way wrong to tell a student they can not leave and play else where. I guess you could keep believing in the spring football ruse.

I agree. You signed on with the understanding that you would play fall football. The B1G and PAC have essentially terminated the agreement.

But, nobody ever aspected that there is a very deadly pandemic going around. So, nobody broke any contracts.

It doesn't matter what the cause of the Fall season cancellation is, if your school cancels football because Martians are landing and yet other schools are still playing, you should be able to transfer to the playing schools.

And really, why would the B1G or PAC resist this? They're not playing, so why should they be allowed to hold the athletes hostage to their covid policy?

No one has played a down yet. You dont even know if any games will be played.

(08-21-2020 06:23 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-21-2020 06:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 05:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:52 PM)UABGrad Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 04:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Sure its self-serving but he's right, right?

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...d-seasons?

If the school you are attending doesn’t offer a sport it seems way wrong to tell a student they can not leave and play else where. I guess you could keep believing in the spring football ruse.

I agree. You signed on with the understanding that you would play fall football. The B1G and PAC have essentially terminated the agreement.

But, nobody ever aspected that there is a very deadly pandemic going around. So, nobody broke any contracts.

It doesn't matter what the cause of the Fall season cancellation is, if your school cancels football because Martians are landing and yet other schools are still playing, you should be able to transfer to the playing schools.

And really, why would the B1G or PAC resist this? They're not playing, so why should they be allowed to hold the athletes hostage to their covid policy?

Quo I agree with all you are saying here. I am just curious. Are you a libertarian?

(08-21-2020 07:55 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 06:42 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  If the season in cancelled I don’t see why they wouldn’t get a waiver

Yes. Of course, covidoids will say the season has just been "postponed" to the Spring, not canceled.

But even if so, surely the draft implications and the drastic nature of a shift from Fall to Spring should be grounds for immediate transfers with no penalty from Fall non-playing to playing schools.

Funny that some of the most vocal posters here in favor of athlete's rights are suddenly backing the canceling conferences on this.

Exactly - to me this is quite cut and dry.