(08-12-2020 11:19 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(08-12-2020 11:01 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Nebraska is not going anywhere. It would be interference on any other conferences to let them in for 1 season.

Second, once these players on Oklahoma and Oklahoma State starts showing signs of that heart condition after they caught the virus last month? Those 2 schools my postpone until spring so that they will look at these players medically for them not to have a heartattack.

Third, Baylor may decide to sit out since they do have an infectious virus expert on their staff. I think Texas and Texas A&M also have experts who would agree no football this fall.

4th, since Kansas became a blue state with a blue governor? I think they may lean towards a spring play.

I think that is where we might be seeing the Big 12 be apart.

Kansas is not a blue state even though the Democrats won the governorship. The state is trending blue thanks to suburb growth, but the Republicans dominate the legislature. Saying Kansas is blue because of the governor is like saying Vermont is red because they have a Republican governor.

Both parties in that state are working together to fixed the education budget problems after the last governor almost completely destroyed it. As it is with this virus? Both parties have been working together since the people who died from it were people that Republicans knew. If that the two top state schools delay to spring? The Republican leadership there will be on board. Same with Oklahoma leadership. They are not willing to push this either.

(08-11-2020 11:12 PM)johnintx Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 07:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  All Warren has done is to invite Nebraska to open Pandora's Box, and to do so under the only circumstance that could have arisen to highlight this vulnerability. It's a highly irresponsible move in my opinion. The Big 10 retains its unity by granting permission, not by withholding it. E.G. Of course N.D. may play hockey in a hockey league inasmuch as it doesn't impact their relationship with the ACC.

I can guarantee you this, any chance they had at landing an Oklahoma or Texas just left the building for good!

I think you're right. OU's administration might still try to move to the B1G, but the boosters and fans would now riot in opposition. The politicians would now line up against it. The SEC would still be on the table.

I think the B12 took a huge step toward saving itself tonight. If we can successfully play a season without a Covid outbreak, and if Nebraska can come back (temporarily first, then maybe permanently), the B12 will improve its position greatly.

Or destroy it completely if there is a big Covid Outbreak.

Deal, or No Deal?

(08-11-2020 07:00 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Kirk Herbstreit was on SportsCenter and he said he can't imagine the Big Ten permitting one of its members to play in another conference this fall.

I can't really see why not? If the B1G isn't sponsoring football this Fall, why would it care especially if it is made clear this is a one-time thing?

Maybe a solution would be that say Nebraska could play as an independent, or else even have a scheduling alignment with another conference, but not be an official member?

But I don't really see what rational grounds the B1G would have for opposing individual schools playing football.

(08-13-2020 08:28 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 07:00 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Kirk Herbstreit was on SportsCenter and he said he can't imagine the Big Ten permitting one of its members to play in another conference this fall.

I can't really see why not? If the B1G isn't sponsoring football this Fall, why would it care especially if it is made clear this is a one-time thing?

Maybe a solution would be that say Nebraska could play as an independent, or else even have a scheduling alignment with another conference, but not be an official member?

But I don't really see what rational grounds the B1G would have for opposing individual schools playing football.

EGO

This is about EGO and CONTROL. Covid is a smokescreen for the real issues.

(08-13-2020 08:34 AM)Statefan Wrote:  

(08-13-2020 08:28 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 07:00 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Kirk Herbstreit was on SportsCenter and he said he can't imagine the Big Ten permitting one of its members to play in another conference this fall.

I can't really see why not? If the B1G isn't sponsoring football this Fall, why would it care especially if it is made clear this is a one-time thing?

Maybe a solution would be that say Nebraska could play as an independent, or else even have a scheduling alignment with another conference, but not be an official member?

But I don't really see what rational grounds the B1G would have for opposing individual schools playing football.

EGO

This is about EGO and CONTROL. Covid is a smokescreen for the real issues.

Yes, that would seem to be about it.

Nebraska's president put out a statement trying to throw a blanket on the fire.



It's not worded very strongly. It doesn't seem like they're going to be forgetting about this any time soon. I know the fans aren't.

(08-13-2020 09:12 AM)Mav Wrote:  Nebraska's president put out a statement trying to throw a blanket on the fire.



It's not worded very strongly. It doesn't seem like they're going to be forgetting about this any time soon. I know the fans aren't.

Sounds like they are moving. The ol adage of being proud members then next week an announcement is made of a move.

(08-13-2020 09:12 AM)Mav Wrote:  Nebraska's president put out a statement trying to throw a blanket on the fire.



It's not worded very strongly. It doesn't seem like they're going to be forgetting about this any time soon. I know the fans aren't.

And you are trying to add to the fire. Nebraska is not going back to the Big XII. It sucks that we aren't playing this fall. We need to get over it and move on.

(08-13-2020 09:52 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(08-13-2020 09:12 AM)Mav Wrote:  Nebraska's president put out a statement trying to throw a blanket on the fire.



It's not worded very strongly. It doesn't seem like they're going to be forgetting about this any time soon. I know the fans aren't.

Sounds like they are moving. The ol adage or being proud members then next week an announcement is made of a move.

Yeah, I don't feel like searching for it but didn't Pitt & Syracuse make similar statements before leaving for the ACC?

(08-13-2020 09:54 AM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(08-13-2020 09:52 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(08-13-2020 09:12 AM)Mav Wrote:  Nebraska's president put out a statement trying to throw a blanket on the fire.



It's not worded very strongly. It doesn't seem like they're going to be forgetting about this any time soon. I know the fans aren't.

Sounds like they are moving. The ol adage or being proud members then next week an announcement is made of a move.

Yeah, I don't feel like searching for it but didn't Pitt & Syracuse make similar statements before leaving for the ACC?

It was boilerplat copy for each school that left the Big East.

(08-13-2020 09:54 AM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(08-13-2020 09:52 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(08-13-2020 09:12 AM)Mav Wrote:  Nebraska's president put out a statement trying to throw a blanket on the fire.



It's not worded very strongly. It doesn't seem like they're going to be forgetting about this any time soon. I know the fans aren't.

Sounds like they are moving. The ol adage or being proud members then next week an announcement is made of a move.

Yeah, I don't feel like searching for it but didn't Pitt & Syracuse make similar statements before leaving for the ACC?

But they were moving for more money and more stability. The XII offers neither of those things.

NO

The Big12 should pursue Nebraska and Iowa behind closed doors to see if there would be any interest. Regardless of money that is brought to the table they should look into expanding to 14 teams and bring in Cincinnati and Memphis.

(08-12-2020 11:37 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(08-11-2020 11:12 PM)johnintx Wrote:  I think the B12 took a huge step toward saving itself tonight. If we can successfully play a season without a Covid outbreak, and if Nebraska can come back (temporarily first, then maybe permanently), the B12 will improve its position greatly.

Or destroy it completely if there is a big Covid Outbreak.

This seems like going overboard ... if the Big12 tries, and Covid19 outbreaks prevents it from finishing the season, that is not going to destroy the Big12.

Maybe a better question is how long the Penn State fans stay satisfied 2nd or 3rd place in the Big 10 East and never playing for even a Big 10 title. As good as PSU is under Franklin he is 1-5 against Ohio State and 4-8 against schools from the State of Michigan. As week as the ACC Coastal is, they could have played several times for the ACC title, even won one or two and made the playoffs. Oh well.

(08-13-2020 06:23 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Maybe a better question is how long the Penn State fans stay satisfied 2nd or 3rd place in the Big 10 East and never playing for even a Big 10 title. As good as PSU is under Franklin he is 1-5 against Ohio State and 4-8 against schools from the State of Michigan. As week as the ACC Coastal is, they could have played several times for the ACC title, even won one or two and made the playoffs. Oh well.

Penn State has won a Big Ten Eastern Division/Championship Game.

(08-13-2020 09:07 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(08-13-2020 06:23 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Maybe a better question is how long the Penn State fans stay satisfied 2nd or 3rd place in the Big 10 East and never playing for even a Big 10 title. As good as PSU is under Franklin he is 1-5 against Ohio State and 4-8 against schools from the State of Michigan. As week as the ACC Coastal is, they could have played several times for the ACC title, even won one or two and made the playoffs. Oh well.

Penn State has won a Big Ten Eastern Division/Championship Game.

Yeah, but you lost to Pitt that year.