With the P5 and some of the G5 having cancelled non-conference games, this presents a number of G5 and select P5 schools with a chance to reassess their FBS schedules. Will a number of schools with limited income listen to Liberty when they come calling offering an obscene amount of guaranteed money to come to Lynchburg or do they hang up?

I don’t think Liberty will be hurt if they don’t play this year. They aren’t losing out on millions in tv revenue if they don’t. They are probably better off cancelling (and citing scheduling problems as the cause) than shelling out and only partially filling a small stadium

As of right now, they've only officially lost 2 games, & all 3 ACC matchups are at their opponents' stadiums, 2 of 3 of which are within hours of them, which means they have a good shot at maintaining them, though they may be played at different times.

3 games are against CUSA (allowing teams to decide how many nonconference games they want to keep), 1 is against Sun Belt (not altering 12-game schedule), 1 is against MAC (undecided on Football as of yet), 1 is against another Independent (UMass), & 1 is against an FCS opponent.

Does a lot remain up the in the air? Yes.

But let's not paint them as desperate until we know what those ACC opponents & UMass are going to do.

ODU has lost at least 3 if not all 4 of our OOC games now. We'd likely agree to play an early season game. I stil don't think it's going to happen though. The dominoes will continue to fall until there's officially no CFB this year.

For the indy's I think a playable season is 7 or 8 games.
Uconn - already packed it in
New Mexico State - down to 8 games scheduled, looks like they signed a game with New Mexico which would bring them to 9. The New Mexico governor is predicted to not allow CFB
Umass - Currently at 9 games, would have 7 games left if the New Mexico schools aren't allowed to play
Liberty - down to 7 games
BYU - down to 6 games, the report as of this morning is that they are essentially begging the MWC to add them for the year, not sure it happens with the bad blood on how they left.
Army - down to 8 games. Cuomo is a wild card but I can't see Army getting shot down by a governor even one as erratic as him.
Notre Dame - safe and sound

BYU has a tv contract to worry about, it'll be interesting to see what they do.

(08-05-2020 05:07 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  For the indy's I think a playable season is 7 or 8 games.
Uconn - already packed it in
New Mexico State - down to 8 games scheduled, looks like they signed a game with New Mexico which would bring them to 9. The New Mexico governor is predicted to not allow CFB
Umass - Currently at 9 games, would have 7 games left if the New Mexico schools aren't allowed to play
Liberty - down to 7 games
BYU - down to 6 games, the report as of this morning is that they are essentially begging the MWC to add them for the year, not sure it happens with the bad blood on how they left.
Army - down to 8 games. Cuomo is a wild card but I can't see Army getting shot down by a governor even one as erratic as him.
Notre Dame - safe and sound

BYU has a tv contract to worry about, it'll be interesting to see what they do.

NMSU plays UNM every year, they just changed the date of it. No extra game was added for either team.

(08-05-2020 05:18 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 05:07 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  For the indy's I think a playable season is 7 or 8 games.
Uconn - already packed it in
New Mexico State - down to 8 games scheduled, looks like they signed a game with New Mexico which would bring them to 9. The New Mexico governor is predicted to not allow CFB
Umass - Currently at 9 games, would have 7 games left if the New Mexico schools aren't allowed to play
Liberty - down to 7 games
BYU - down to 6 games, the report as of this morning is that they are essentially begging the MWC to add them for the year, not sure it happens with the bad blood on how they left.
Army - down to 8 games. Cuomo is a wild card but I can't see Army getting shot down by a governor even one as erratic as him.
Notre Dame - safe and sound

BYU has a tv contract to worry about, it'll be interesting to see what they do.

NMSU plays UNM every year, they just changed the date of it. No extra game was added for either team.

Thanks, that's what I get for using FBSchedules as a source.

(08-05-2020 05:07 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  For the indy's I think a playable season is 7 or 8 games.
Uconn - already packed it in
New Mexico State - down to 8 games scheduled, looks like they signed a game with New Mexico which would bring them to 9. The New Mexico governor is predicted to not allow CFB
Umass - Currently at 9 games, would have 7 games left if the New Mexico schools aren't allowed to play
Liberty - down to 7 games
BYU - down to 6 games, the report as of this morning is that they are essentially begging the MWC to add them for the year, not sure it happens with the bad blood on how they left.
Army - down to 8 games. Cuomo is a wild card but I can't see Army getting shot down by a governor even one as erratic as him.
Notre Dame - safe and sound

BYU has a tv contract to worry about, it'll be interesting to see what they do.

Liberty will play no matter what. As long as Jerry Jr is around and the online program is swimming in dough, they will play. UMass and NMSU don't have money to throw in.

Let's look:

2020

09/05 - at Virginia Tech Canceled
09/12 - North Carolina A&T Canceled
09/19 - at WKU
09/26 - FIU
10/03 - at Bowling Green
10/10 - ULM
10/17 - at Syracuse Canceled
10/24 - Southern Miss
10/31 - at UConn Canceled
11/14 - Western Carolina
11/21 - at NC State Canceled
11/28 - UMass

WCU is FCS, which makes them very likely to cancel the season, as half the schools in FCS already have.

One has to wonder how many of those other schools on their schedule will fold shop. Dicey proposition.

Who exactly could they buy to play them?

(08-05-2020 06:53 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Let's look:

2020

09/05 - at Virginia Tech Canceled
09/12 - North Carolina A&T Canceled
09/19 - at WKU
09/26 - FIU
10/03 - at Bowling Green
10/10 - ULM
10/17 - at Syracuse Canceled
10/24 - Southern Miss
10/31 - at UConn Canceled
11/14 - Western Carolina
11/21 - at NC State Canceled
11/28 - UMass

WCU is FCS, which makes them very likely to cancel the season, as half the schools in FCS already have.

One has to wonder how many of those other schools on their schedule will fold shop. Dicey proposition.

Who exactly could they buy to play them?

A couple CUSA schools, a couple Sun Belt schools, maybe a low level AAC school. Not a pay game per se, but the Va Tech game could be rescheduled.

(08-05-2020 07:10 PM)whittx Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 06:53 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Let's look:

2020

09/05 - at Virginia Tech Canceled
09/12 - North Carolina A&T Canceled
09/19 - at WKU
09/26 - FIU
10/03 - at Bowling Green
10/10 - ULM
10/17 - at Syracuse Canceled
10/24 - Southern Miss
10/31 - at UConn Canceled
11/14 - Western Carolina
11/21 - at NC State Canceled
11/28 - UMass

WCU is FCS, which makes them very likely to cancel the season, as half the schools in FCS already have.

One has to wonder how many of those other schools on their schedule will fold shop. Dicey proposition.

Who exactly could they buy to play them?

A couple CUSA schools, a couple Sun Belt schools, maybe a low level AAC school. Not a pay game per se, but the Va Tech game could be rescheduled.

So all in all patch working a season together for them this year with CUSA & Sunbelt teams would end up costing them more than what they were trying to buy their way into CUSA and Sunbelt membership for.

(08-05-2020 07:25 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 07:10 PM)whittx Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 06:53 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Let's look:

2020

09/05 - at Virginia Tech Canceled
09/12 - North Carolina A&T Canceled
09/19 - at WKU
09/26 - FIU
10/03 - at Bowling Green
10/10 - ULM
10/17 - at Syracuse Canceled
10/24 - Southern Miss
10/31 - at UConn Canceled
11/14 - Western Carolina
11/21 - at NC State Canceled
11/28 - UMass

WCU is FCS, which makes them very likely to cancel the season, as half the schools in FCS already have.

One has to wonder how many of those other schools on their schedule will fold shop. Dicey proposition.

Who exactly could they buy to play them?

A couple CUSA schools, a couple Sun Belt schools, maybe a low level AAC school. Not a pay game per se, but the Va Tech game could be rescheduled.

So all in all patch working a season together for them this year with CUSA & Sunbelt teams would end up costing them more than what they were trying to buy their way into CUSA and Sunbelt membership for.

Jerry Jr is that pigheaded.

And where did you read that the Liberty at NC State game was cancelled?

whittx,

ACC is not playing any OOC games. Their +1 was for their SEC rivals with ND vs Navy as an afterthought. But I think they are all out. Navy will be content with Army and maybe Air Force for their 10th, and the SEC opted to be internal only. So no ACC "+1" will happen.

Reschedule is possible ... for a future year. And I suspect that will happen with many games.

Even the American, in saying you can play OOC games at their member's discretion appears to just be a couple B12 pay dates and a couple hosted games against nearby schools that wont necessarily be cancelled. But mostly it was to allow Navy to play Army, and possibly Air Force or Notre Dame if they want.

CUSA and SBC said they will keep their schedule, in what is an obvious attempt to extract some money from their cancelled pay dates. It is not a serious attempt to play a full schedule or add new games outside of their conference schedule. To add any would mean opening up the Liberty checkbook.

Army is where I'd start. But looking over that list UMass and WCU will probably fall off the schedule, and I wouldn't bet on BGSU happening

(08-05-2020 07:33 PM)whittx Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 07:25 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 07:10 PM)whittx Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 06:53 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Let's look:

2020

09/05 - at Virginia Tech Canceled
09/12 - North Carolina A&T Canceled
09/19 - at WKU
09/26 - FIU
10/03 - at Bowling Green
10/10 - ULM
10/17 - at Syracuse Canceled
10/24 - Southern Miss
10/31 - at UConn Canceled
11/14 - Western Carolina
11/21 - at NC State Canceled
11/28 - UMass

WCU is FCS, which makes them very likely to cancel the season, as half the schools in FCS already have.

One has to wonder how many of those other schools on their schedule will fold shop. Dicey proposition.

Who exactly could they buy to play them?

A couple CUSA schools, a couple Sun Belt schools, maybe a low level AAC school. Not a pay game per se, but the Va Tech game could be rescheduled.

So all in all patch working a season together for them this year with CUSA & Sunbelt teams would end up costing them more than what they were trying to buy their way into CUSA and Sunbelt membership for.

Jerry Jr is that pigheaded.

My point was raise the offer to CUSA or Sunbelt conferences and solve the problem of playing as an indy. If there's a season this year and your indy team doesn't play you might as well drop down to FCS. It's a self imposed death sentence. Ask SMU how easy recovery from that is. And before everyone points to Uconn they already made their decision of football before covid. Scrapping football would save them a ton of money, in 2019 their football program lost them $13.3 mil. They might be the only ones coming out ahead by cancelling football this year.

(08-05-2020 07:39 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  whittx,

ACC is not playing any OOC games. Their +1 was for their SEC rivals with ND vs Navy as an afterthought. But I think they are all out. Navy will be content with Army and maybe Air Force for their 10th, and the SEC opted to be internal only. So no ACC "+1" will happen.

Reschedule is possible ... for a future year. And I suspect that will happen with many games.

Even the American, in saying you can play OOC games at their member's discretion appears to just be a couple B12 pay dates and a couple hosted games against nearby schools that wont necessarily be cancelled. But mostly it was to allow Navy to play Army, and possibly Air Force or Notre Dame if they want.

CUSA and SBC said they will keep their schedule, in what is an obvious attempt to extract some money from their cancelled pay dates. It is not a serious attempt to play a full schedule or add new games outside of their conference schedule. To add any would mean opening up the Liberty checkbook.

Army is where I'd start. But looking over that list UMass and WCU will probably fall off the schedule, and I wouldn't bet on BGSU happening

Where did you read that ACC schools were not playing an 11th game? I am curious

https://caneswarning.com/2020/08/05/miam...of%202020.

The Miami football program will play their one non-conference game in 2020 against UAB according to Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald.
Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald tweeted on Wednesday afternoon that the Miami football program will host UAB in their one allotted non-conference game of 2020. The Hurricanes and Blazers are scheduled to play September 17 at Hard Rock Stadium. The 2020 schedule will be released Thursday at 9 AM.

The full schedule will be known tomorrow when the ACC releases the dates and times at 9 AM ET. Miami previously was scheduled to begin its 2020 season against Temple September 5 at Hard Rock Stadium. The Hurricanes have non-conferenced games scheduled against Temple, Wagner on September 12 and UAB.

Syracuse I think will be playing Liberty this Fall. We'll know tomorrow morning.

(08-05-2020 09:15 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Syracuse I think will be playing Liberty this Fall. We'll know tomorrow morning.

What I have heard so far is Liberty at State and Syracuse. UAB at Miami. Citadel at Clemson, VMI and UVa, and Samford at FSU.

Essentially the ACC taking care of the SoCon. I guess that could change, but I stlll don't know where Stug heard his info.

So will Va Tech keep the Liberty game or add James Madison or ODU?

LU keeps all three ACC games for the 2020 season.
https://www.aseaofred.com/liberty-to-kee...-november/

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