(07-29-2020 04:01 PM)TerryD Wrote:  



Notre Dame’s schedule lost: USC, Stanford, Wisconsin, Western Michigan and Arkansas

Notre Dame’s schedule added: North Carolina (A), Syracuse (H), Boston College (A) and Florida State (H).

We’ll see on Navy, but that’s the game ND wants to keep.

It is interesting that ND would rather keep an away game against Navy than a home game against Arkansas.

Loyalty to Navy above any team really.

(07-29-2020 03:29 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

https://www.si.com/college/tmg/_storyPre...6051776052

Quote:As an enticement to accept that, the ACC added the offer of a full ACC revenue payout, which combined with Notre Dame's share of its television contract with NBC would be a boost in income for ND of more than 35 million dollars.

For that, however, he ACC clearly wants Notre Dame to accept a permanent position in football sooner rather than later, a move which would guarantee ND's financial athletic security.

They're going for it, if what they're offering in the article is true I think they pull it off.

But it does not fit the "ND is greedy" narrative, giving up the home game revenues like that to show loyalty to Navy.

ACC plans on keeping the ACC-SEC rivalry games, but SEC channels Lee Corso and says, "Not so fast, my friend!"

(07-29-2020 04:09 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 03:29 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

https://www.si.com/college/tmg/_storyPre...6051776052

Quote:As an enticement to accept that, the ACC added the offer of a full ACC revenue payout, which combined with Notre Dame's share of its television contract with NBC would be a boost in income for ND of more than 35 million dollars.

For that, however, he ACC clearly wants Notre Dame to accept a permanent position in football sooner rather than later, a move which would guarantee ND's financial athletic security.

They're going for it, if what they're offering in the article is true I think they pull it off.

But it does not fit the "ND is greedy" narrative, giving up the home game revenues like that to show loyalty to Navy.

I think you replied to the wrong post. But I'll respond anyways. The schedule announcement does say the non-conference games must be played at home or in the teams state. The game would have to move to South Bend and likely just flip next years to be home for Navy.

(07-29-2020 04:16 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 04:09 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 03:29 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

https://www.si.com/college/tmg/_storyPre...6051776052

Quote:As an enticement to accept that, the ACC added the offer of a full ACC revenue payout, which combined with Notre Dame's share of its television contract with NBC would be a boost in income for ND of more than 35 million dollars.

For that, however, he ACC clearly wants Notre Dame to accept a permanent position in football sooner rather than later, a move which would guarantee ND's financial athletic security.

They're going for it, if what they're offering in the article is true I think they pull it off.

But it does not fit the "ND is greedy" narrative, giving up the home game revenues like that to show loyalty to Navy.

I think you replied to the wrong post. But I'll respond anyways. The schedule announcement does say the non-conference games must be played at home or in the teams state. The game would have to move to South Bend and likely just flip next years to be home for Navy.

Yes on both counts.

I responded to the wrong post and I just saw that and was about to post it.

"ACC schools can select one non-conference game, but it must be played in a state of an ACC school.

Maryland, where the Naval Academy is located, does not have an ACC program within its borders. By these rules, Notre Dame cannot face Navy in Annapolis."

(07-29-2020 04:01 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Notre Dame’s schedule lost: USC, Stanford, Wisconsin, Western Michigan and Arkansas

Notre Dame’s schedule added: North Carolina (A), Syracuse (H), Boston College (A) and Florida State (H).

We’ll see on Navy, but that’s the game ND wants to keep.

It is interesting that ND would rather keep an away game against Navy than a home game against Arkansas.

That's a significant weakening, in terms of marquee value, in ND's schedule, but oh well.

Given ND's long history with Navy, it does not surprise me that this game is prioritized over Arkansas.

(07-29-2020 04:01 PM)TerryD Wrote:  



Notre Dame’s schedule lost: USC, Stanford, Wisconsin, Western Michigan and Arkansas

Notre Dame’s schedule added: North Carolina (A), Syracuse (H), Boston College (A) and Florida State (H).

We’ll see on Navy, but that’s the game ND wants to keep.

It is interesting that ND would rather keep an away game against Navy than a home game against Arkansas.

Except that Navy would have to play in Indiana per the ACC guidelines.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...notre-dame

The nonconference game must take place in the home state of the ACC institution, and all nonconference opponents must have met the medical protocol requirements as agreed upon by the ACC.

(07-29-2020 04:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 04:01 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Notre Dame’s schedule lost: USC, Stanford, Wisconsin, Western Michigan and Arkansas

Notre Dame’s schedule added: North Carolina (A), Syracuse (H), Boston College (A) and Florida State (H).

We’ll see on Navy, but that’s the game ND wants to keep.

It is interesting that ND would rather keep an away game against Navy than a home game against Arkansas.

That's a significant weakening, in terms of marquee value, in ND's schedule, but oh well.

Given ND's long history with Navy, it does not surprise me that this game is prioritized over Arkansas.

Do you think a game vs Arkansas is stronger than a game vs Navy? Definitely not this year with the coaching change.

(07-29-2020 04:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 04:01 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Notre Dame’s schedule lost: USC, Stanford, Wisconsin, Western Michigan and Arkansas

Notre Dame’s schedule added: North Carolina (A), Syracuse (H), Boston College (A) and Florida State (H).

We’ll see on Navy, but that’s the game ND wants to keep.

It is interesting that ND would rather keep an away game against Navy than a home game against Arkansas.

That's a significant weakening, in terms of marquee value, in ND's schedule.

Given ND's long history with Navy, it does not surprise me that this game is prioritized over Arkansas.

If the Hogs get a buy game at home out of this they likely come out ahead. I would think most ND fans would be more acclimated to playing Navy annually.

The sticking point for me is ESPN's hand in this as they try to prop up the value of the ACC schedule. There were 7 games with the SEC scheduled. South Carolina and Florida are the only ones who want to play those games as their ticket donation priority system is predicated upon those tickets. Everyone else makes more by not playing them. It's an ESPN thing. It's fine that ESPN owns the ACC and SEC rights fully past 2025 but it's an irksome and complicating factor accommodating them on this kind of stuff. Auburn / UNC has been off, then back on, and now somewhat in limbo. I'm assuming it will be played.

The issue for the SEC is we aren't looking at a 10 or 11 game schedule, at least not yet, and rescheduling this late, Arkansas's problem, isn't easy to do, nor will it be for Auburn if that one gets canned. If the ACC wanted to play 10 conferences games almost 2 months ago that's their business, but it's a crappy deal waiting to see if we need to reschedule as we are currently planning to play a full season.

I'm assuming it's a 2020 only deal since the headline isn't NOTRE DAME JOINS ACC!

(07-29-2020 04:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 04:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 04:01 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Notre Dame’s schedule lost: USC, Stanford, Wisconsin, Western Michigan and Arkansas

Notre Dame’s schedule added: North Carolina (A), Syracuse (H), Boston College (A) and Florida State (H).

We’ll see on Navy, but that’s the game ND wants to keep.

It is interesting that ND would rather keep an away game against Navy than a home game against Arkansas.

That's a significant weakening, in terms of marquee value, in ND's schedule.

Given ND's long history with Navy, it does not surprise me that this game is prioritized over Arkansas.

If the Hogs get a buy game at home out of this they likely come out ahead. I would think most ND fans would be more acclimated to playing Navy annually.

The sticking point for me is ESPN's hand in this as they try to prop up the value of the ACC schedule. There were 7 games with the SEC scheduled. South Carolina and Florida are the only ones who want to play those games as their ticket donation priority system is predicated upon those tickets. Everyone else makes more by not playing them. It's an ESPN thing. It's fine that ESPN owns the ACC and SEC rights fully past 2025 but it's an irksome and complicating factor accommodating them on this kind of stuff. Auburn / UNC has been off, then back on, and now somewhat in limbo. I'm assuming it will be played.

The issue for the SEC is we aren't looking at a 10 or 11 game schedule, at least not yet, and rescheduling this late, Arkansas's problem, isn't easy to do, nor will it be for Auburn if that one gets canned. If the ACC wanted to play 10 conferences games almost 2 months ago that's their business, but it's a crappy deal waiting to see if we need to reschedule as we are currently planning to play a full season.

Really?

https://www.si.com/college/2020/07/29/se...rence-only

(07-29-2020 04:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 04:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 04:01 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Notre Dame’s schedule lost: USC, Stanford, Wisconsin, Western Michigan and Arkansas

Notre Dame’s schedule added: North Carolina (A), Syracuse (H), Boston College (A) and Florida State (H).

We’ll see on Navy, but that’s the game ND wants to keep.

It is interesting that ND would rather keep an away game against Navy than a home game against Arkansas.

That's a significant weakening, in terms of marquee value, in ND's schedule.

Given ND's long history with Navy, it does not surprise me that this game is prioritized over Arkansas.

If the Hogs get a buy game at home out of this they likely come out ahead. I would think most ND fans would be more acclimated to playing Navy annually.

The sticking point for me is ESPN's hand in this as they try to prop up the value of the ACC schedule. There were 7 games with the SEC scheduled. South Carolina and Florida are the only ones who want to play those games as their ticket donation priority system is predicated upon those tickets. Everyone else makes more by not playing them. It's an ESPN thing. It's fine that ESPN owns the ACC and SEC rights fully past 2025 but it's an irksome and complicating factor accommodating them on this kind of stuff. Auburn / UNC has been off, then back on, and now somewhat in limbo. I'm assuming it will be played.

The issue for the SEC is we aren't looking at a 10 or 11 game schedule, at least not yet, and rescheduling this late, Arkansas's problem, isn't easy to do, nor will it be for Auburn if that one gets canned. If the ACC wanted to play 10 conferences games almost 2 months ago that's their business, but it's a crappy deal waiting to see if we need to reschedule as we are currently planning to play a full season.

BYU has plenty of room on the schedule. And, we're looking to replace FOUR road games so far, mostly in September. So, lots of flexibility.

We assume that Mississippi State is not coming to Raleigh.

I would not rule out anything yet regarding Navy. Navy has some strong relations with ACC schools that are not apparent on the surface. If anyone got tossed a bone by the ACC it is likely them.

(07-29-2020 04:40 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 04:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 04:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 04:01 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Notre Dame’s schedule lost: USC, Stanford, Wisconsin, Western Michigan and Arkansas

Notre Dame’s schedule added: North Carolina (A), Syracuse (H), Boston College (A) and Florida State (H).

We’ll see on Navy, but that’s the game ND wants to keep.

It is interesting that ND would rather keep an away game against Navy than a home game against Arkansas.

That's a significant weakening, in terms of marquee value, in ND's schedule.

Given ND's long history with Navy, it does not surprise me that this game is prioritized over Arkansas.

If the Hogs get a buy game at home out of this they likely come out ahead. I would think most ND fans would be more acclimated to playing Navy annually.

The sticking point for me is ESPN's hand in this as they try to prop up the value of the ACC schedule. There were 7 games with the SEC scheduled. South Carolina and Florida are the only ones who want to play those games as their ticket donation priority system is predicated upon those tickets. Everyone else makes more by not playing them. It's an ESPN thing. It's fine that ESPN owns the ACC and SEC rights fully past 2025 but it's an irksome and complicating factor accommodating them on this kind of stuff. Auburn / UNC has been off, then back on, and now somewhat in limbo. I'm assuming it will be played.

The issue for the SEC is we aren't looking at a 10 or 11 game schedule, at least not yet, and rescheduling this late, Arkansas's problem, isn't easy to do, nor will it be for Auburn if that one gets canned. If the ACC wanted to play 10 conferences games almost 2 months ago that's their business, but it's a crappy deal waiting to see if we need to reschedule as we are currently planning to play a full season.

BYU has plenty of room on the schedule. And, we're looking to replace FOUR road games so far, mostly in September. So, lots of flexibility.

BYU may end up playing a quasi AAC or MWC schedule
Pac 12, Big 10 are conference only, SEC is expected to announce the same soon. Report: SEC ADs approve a conference-only schedule -- but it's not a done deal yet
ACC just announced their +1 schedule
The Big 12 is now calling meeting to discuss their scheduling plans.

Here’s the entire ACC schedule. 15 teams, no divisions. I don’t love 10 league games but I hope this kills the division requirement across the board, even if ND goes back to independence.

(07-29-2020 04:23 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 04:16 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 04:09 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 03:29 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

https://www.si.com/college/tmg/_storyPre...6051776052

Quote:As an enticement to accept that, the ACC added the offer of a full ACC revenue payout, which combined with Notre Dame's share of its television contract with NBC would be a boost in income for ND of more than 35 million dollars.

For that, however, he ACC clearly wants Notre Dame to accept a permanent position in football sooner rather than later, a move which would guarantee ND's financial athletic security.

They're going for it, if what they're offering in the article is true I think they pull it off.

But it does not fit the "ND is greedy" narrative, giving up the home game revenues like that to show loyalty to Navy.

I think you replied to the wrong post. But I'll respond anyways. The schedule announcement does say the non-conference games must be played at home or in the teams state. The game would have to move to South Bend and likely just flip next years to be home for Navy.

Yes on both counts.

I responded to the wrong post and I just saw that and was about to post it.

"ACC schools can select one non-conference game, but it must be played in a state of an ACC school.

Maryland, where the Naval Academy is located, does not have an ACC program within its borders. By these rules, Notre Dame cannot face Navy in Annapolis."

They could play them in Philadelphia.

If the ACC is going to have one division, they are going to need an NCAA waiver.

ND and Navy have played in Florida recently (Jacksonville and Orlando). Would be very easy to move game there IMO.

So who does the ACC invite for #16, if Notre Dame stays in Conf play? Uconn, Cincy, WVU????

(07-29-2020 07:07 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  So who does the ACC invite for #16, if Notre Dame stays in Conf play? Uconn, Cincy, WVU????

If they can get the rules changed and can make the league division less, the ACC won't need to add anyone.

(07-29-2020 07:10 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 07:07 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  So who does the ACC invite for #16, if Notre Dame stays in Conf play? Uconn, Cincy, WVU????

If they can get the rules changed and can make the league division less, the ACC won't need to add anyone.