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(08-07-2020 03:00 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Clearly the Coronavirus pandemic is a secret plot hatched by Duke Medical School in conjunction with UVA and UNC to drive a wedge between Notre Dame and Navy.
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The Space Force assisted too in hopes to create a scheduling opportunity to their yet to be established football team to play Navy.
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Same old story: tail wags dog. The only question is, is Notre Dame the tail or the dog?

It certainly isn't independent.
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(08-07-2020 02:59 PM)orangefan Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 02:09 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 12:37 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 07:42 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(08-06-2020 07:25 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  Not a good start for ND being in a conference, first action by the ACC strong armed ND's only remaining rivalry game of 2020 off the schedule.

Whiskey...Notre Dame knew what they were getting. Is it the ACC's fault that Notre Dame has an 11 game schedule and full distribution of ACC TV money this year and access to all the bowls? I think ND came out very well.

Not playing Navy one year isn't the end of the world...heck we aren't even sure limited fans will be allowed and games played. Strange times...

They obviously take the shelter this year and be thankful for it. What I'm saying is the Navy game is very important to ND and having to cancel it because the ACC voted to make their +1 game an in state game is a prime example of why they prefer independence. The 6 game scheduling agreement they have with the ACC is the most they're willing to do and it's more than any other conference would get from them.

The conferences have no power over teams' nonconference slate; all they can do is make recommendations.

If Notre Dame told the ACC, "We're playing Navy in Maryland," within an hour the ACC would have granted Notre Dame an exception to their ridiculous rule.

Do you honestly think the ACC would have kicked Notre Dame off their schedule this year just because of a game in Maryland?

Bottom line: the reason this game isn't happening is because Notre Dame decided they'd rather play a home game against Western Michigan than play in Annapolis.

ACC rules prohibited ND from playing at Annapolis. The game would have had to be played in Indiana, presumably as an ND home game, but potentially I suppose at a neutral site as a Navy home game.

My guess is that the primary factors in ND's decision were 1) ND was on the hook to pay WMU for a buy game, regardless of whether it was played; and 2) ND is committed to providing NBC 7 games every season or having their rights fees reduced. Playing Navy would have meant giving up a paying home game in a future year with no obligation to make a guaranty payment since Navy is an alternating home and home series. If ND wanted to play WMU in a future year, they would have to make a second guaranty payment.
Playing Navy as a Navy home game at a neutral site in Indiana (as required by the ACC) would also have meant providing NBC with only 5 home games, not 6 as they are doing or 7 as they have promised to do, thereby suffering a two game reduction in payments.

ACC "rules" don't mean **** regarding ND and Navy.

If ND wanted to play Navy in Somalia, the ACC would have said fine.

The game is of minimal value to Navy if there is no attendance.
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(08-07-2020 04:59 PM)Statefan Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 02:59 PM)orangefan Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 02:09 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 12:37 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 07:42 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Whiskey...Notre Dame knew what they were getting. Is it the ACC's fault that Notre Dame has an 11 game schedule and full distribution of ACC TV money this year and access to all the bowls? I think ND came out very well.

Not playing Navy one year isn't the end of the world...heck we aren't even sure limited fans will be allowed and games played. Strange times...

They obviously take the shelter this year and be thankful for it. What I'm saying is the Navy game is very important to ND and having to cancel it because the ACC voted to make their +1 game an in state game is a prime example of why they prefer independence. The 6 game scheduling agreement they have with the ACC is the most they're willing to do and it's more than any other conference would get from them.

The conferences have no power over teams' nonconference slate; all they can do is make recommendations.

If Notre Dame told the ACC, "We're playing Navy in Maryland," within an hour the ACC would have granted Notre Dame an exception to their ridiculous rule.

Do you honestly think the ACC would have kicked Notre Dame off their schedule this year just because of a game in Maryland?

Bottom line: the reason this game isn't happening is because Notre Dame decided they'd rather play a home game against Western Michigan than play in Annapolis.

ACC rules prohibited ND from playing at Annapolis. The game would have had to be played in Indiana, presumably as an ND home game, but potentially I suppose at a neutral site as a Navy home game.

My guess is that the primary factors in ND's decision were 1) ND was on the hook to pay WMU for a buy game, regardless of whether it was played; and 2) ND is committed to providing NBC 7 games every season or having their rights fees reduced. Playing Navy would have meant giving up a paying home game in a future year with no obligation to make a guaranty payment since Navy is an alternating home and home series. If ND wanted to play WMU in a future year, they would have to make a second guaranty payment.
Playing Navy as a Navy home game at a neutral site in Indiana (as required by the ACC) would also have meant providing NBC with only 5 home games, not 6 as they are doing or 7 as they have promised to do, thereby suffering a two game reduction in payments.

ACC "rules" don't mean **** regarding ND and Navy.

If ND wanted to play Navy in Somalia, the ACC would have said fine.

The game is of minimal value to Navy if there is no attendance.

Navy was ready to play the game at NMCMS, in front of limited capacity (season ticket holders were braced for shock on the expected cost), the Brigade only, or zero.

It sounds like ND asked - even after the SEC backed out making the in-state requirement less significant - and the ACC did NOT say "fine". From our local beat writer:
Quote: After a week of uncertainty, Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick told Gladchuk it simply was not possible.

“We talked about all kinds of possibilities, but it became obvious there was no gray area. I spoke with Jack this week and learned there would be no exceptions. I had to face the reality there was no flexibility in the way Notre Dame had to operate,” Gladchuk said.
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(08-08-2020 08:28 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 04:59 PM)Statefan Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 02:59 PM)orangefan Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 02:09 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 12:37 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  They obviously take the shelter this year and be thankful for it. What I'm saying is the Navy game is very important to ND and having to cancel it because the ACC voted to make their +1 game an in state game is a prime example of why they prefer independence. The 6 game scheduling agreement they have with the ACC is the most they're willing to do and it's more than any other conference would get from them.

The conferences have no power over teams' nonconference slate; all they can do is make recommendations.

If Notre Dame told the ACC, "We're playing Navy in Maryland," within an hour the ACC would have granted Notre Dame an exception to their ridiculous rule.

Do you honestly think the ACC would have kicked Notre Dame off their schedule this year just because of a game in Maryland?

Bottom line: the reason this game isn't happening is because Notre Dame decided they'd rather play a home game against Western Michigan than play in Annapolis.

ACC rules prohibited ND from playing at Annapolis. The game would have had to be played in Indiana, presumably as an ND home game, but potentially I suppose at a neutral site as a Navy home game.

My guess is that the primary factors in ND's decision were 1) ND was on the hook to pay WMU for a buy game, regardless of whether it was played; and 2) ND is committed to providing NBC 7 games every season or having their rights fees reduced. Playing Navy would have meant giving up a paying home game in a future year with no obligation to make a guaranty payment since Navy is an alternating home and home series. If ND wanted to play WMU in a future year, they would have to make a second guaranty payment.
Playing Navy as a Navy home game at a neutral site in Indiana (as required by the ACC) would also have meant providing NBC with only 5 home games, not 6 as they are doing or 7 as they have promised to do, thereby suffering a two game reduction in payments.

ACC "rules" don't mean **** regarding ND and Navy.

If ND wanted to play Navy in Somalia, the ACC would have said fine.

The game is of minimal value to Navy if there is no attendance.

Navy was ready to play the game at NMCMS, in front of limited capacity (season ticket holders were braced for shock on the expected cost), the Brigade only, or zero.

It sounds like ND asked - even after the SEC backed out making the in-state requirement less significant - and the ACC did NOT say "fine". From our local beat writer:
Quote: After a week of uncertainty, Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick told Gladchuk it simply was not possible.

“We talked about all kinds of possibilities, but it became obvious there was no gray area. I spoke with Jack this week and learned there would be no exceptions. I had to face the reality there was no flexibility in the way Notre Dame had to operate,” Gladchuk said.

Notre Dame is "in".
The reaction from some ND fans ........now that we have missed a (Navy) game...do we ever have to play them again? Not exactly what would be referred to as "heartbroken".

With Notre Dame now committed to full membership........can Texas be far behind?
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(08-08-2020 08:54 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(08-08-2020 08:28 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 04:59 PM)Statefan Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 02:59 PM)orangefan Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 02:09 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  The conferences have no power over teams' nonconference slate; all they can do is make recommendations.

If Notre Dame told the ACC, "We're playing Navy in Maryland," within an hour the ACC would have granted Notre Dame an exception to their ridiculous rule.

Do you honestly think the ACC would have kicked Notre Dame off their schedule this year just because of a game in Maryland?

Bottom line: the reason this game isn't happening is because Notre Dame decided they'd rather play a home game against Western Michigan than play in Annapolis.

ACC rules prohibited ND from playing at Annapolis. The game would have had to be played in Indiana, presumably as an ND home game, but potentially I suppose at a neutral site as a Navy home game.

My guess is that the primary factors in ND's decision were 1) ND was on the hook to pay WMU for a buy game, regardless of whether it was played; and 2) ND is committed to providing NBC 7 games every season or having their rights fees reduced. Playing Navy would have meant giving up a paying home game in a future year with no obligation to make a guaranty payment since Navy is an alternating home and home series. If ND wanted to play WMU in a future year, they would have to make a second guaranty payment.
Playing Navy as a Navy home game at a neutral site in Indiana (as required by the ACC) would also have meant providing NBC with only 5 home games, not 6 as they are doing or 7 as they have promised to do, thereby suffering a two game reduction in payments.

ACC "rules" don't mean **** regarding ND and Navy.

If ND wanted to play Navy in Somalia, the ACC would have said fine.

The game is of minimal value to Navy if there is no attendance.

Navy was ready to play the game at NMCMS, in front of limited capacity (season ticket holders were braced for shock on the expected cost), the Brigade only, or zero.

It sounds like ND asked - even after the SEC backed out making the in-state requirement less significant - and the ACC did NOT say "fine". From our local beat writer:
Quote: After a week of uncertainty, Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick told Gladchuk it simply was not possible.

“We talked about all kinds of possibilities, but it became obvious there was no gray area. I spoke with Jack this week and learned there would be no exceptions. I had to face the reality there was no flexibility in the way Notre Dame had to operate,” Gladchuk said.

Notre Dame is "in".
The reaction from some ND fans ........now that we have missed a (Navy) game...do we ever have to play them again? Not exactly what would be referred to as "heartbroken".

With Notre Dame now committed to full membership........can Texas be far behind?
Two points:

1) Its a one year lease with the ACC, and

2) Navy and ND just extended their series through 2032.
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(08-08-2020 11:13 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(08-08-2020 08:54 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(08-08-2020 08:28 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 04:59 PM)Statefan Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 02:59 PM)orangefan Wrote:  ACC rules prohibited ND from playing at Annapolis. The game would have had to be played in Indiana, presumably as an ND home game, but potentially I suppose at a neutral site as a Navy home game.

My guess is that the primary factors in ND's decision were 1) ND was on the hook to pay WMU for a buy game, regardless of whether it was played; and 2) ND is committed to providing NBC 7 games every season or having their rights fees reduced. Playing Navy would have meant giving up a paying home game in a future year with no obligation to make a guaranty payment since Navy is an alternating home and home series. If ND wanted to play WMU in a future year, they would have to make a second guaranty payment.
Playing Navy as a Navy home game at a neutral site in Indiana (as required by the ACC) would also have meant providing NBC with only 5 home games, not 6 as they are doing or 7 as they have promised to do, thereby suffering a two game reduction in payments.

ACC "rules" don't mean **** regarding ND and Navy.

If ND wanted to play Navy in Somalia, the ACC would have said fine.

The game is of minimal value to Navy if there is no attendance.

Navy was ready to play the game at NMCMS, in front of limited capacity (season ticket holders were braced for shock on the expected cost), the Brigade only, or zero.

It sounds like ND asked - even after the SEC backed out making the in-state requirement less significant - and the ACC did NOT say "fine". From our local beat writer:
Quote: After a week of uncertainty, Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick told Gladchuk it simply was not possible.

“We talked about all kinds of possibilities, but it became obvious there was no gray area. I spoke with Jack this week and learned there would be no exceptions. I had to face the reality there was no flexibility in the way Notre Dame had to operate,” Gladchuk said.

Notre Dame is "in".
The reaction from some ND fans ........now that we have missed a (Navy) game...do we ever have to play them again? Not exactly what would be referred to as "heartbroken".

With Notre Dame now committed to full membership........can Texas be far behind?
Two points:

1) Its a one year lease with the ACC, and

2) Navy and ND just extended their series through 2032.

Yep!
Looks like the Irish are going to keep Navy (a game they can move anywhere around the world) and kick California to the curb.
Stanford (a relatively new "rivalry") looks like it terminates after the 2024 season (you will owe me $20 when it's official) and the biggest surprise of all.........USC is not on the schedule beyond 2026.
Perhaps the biggest tell of all FBSchedules.com no longer lists Notre Dame as an independent but as a member of the ACC.
https://fbschedules.com/future-college-f...schedules/

Looks like someone intends to exercise the option to renew on that one year lease.
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(08-08-2020 11:37 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(08-08-2020 11:13 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(08-08-2020 08:54 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(08-08-2020 08:28 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 04:59 PM)Statefan Wrote:  ACC "rules" don't mean **** regarding ND and Navy.

If ND wanted to play Navy in Somalia, the ACC would have said fine.

The game is of minimal value to Navy if there is no attendance.

Navy was ready to play the game at NMCMS, in front of limited capacity (season ticket holders were braced for shock on the expected cost), the Brigade only, or zero.

It sounds like ND asked - even after the SEC backed out making the in-state requirement less significant - and the ACC did NOT say "fine". From our local beat writer:
Quote: After a week of uncertainty, Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick told Gladchuk it simply was not possible.

“We talked about all kinds of possibilities, but it became obvious there was no gray area. I spoke with Jack this week and learned there would be no exceptions. I had to face the reality there was no flexibility in the way Notre Dame had to operate,” Gladchuk said.

Notre Dame is "in".
The reaction from some ND fans ........now that we have missed a (Navy) game...do we ever have to play them again? Not exactly what would be referred to as "heartbroken".

With Notre Dame now committed to full membership........can Texas be far behind?
Two points:

1) Its a one year lease with the ACC, and

2) Navy and ND just extended their series through 2032.

Yep!
Looks like the Irish are going to keep Navy (a game they can move anywhere around the world) and kick California to the curb.
Stanford (a relatively new "rivalry") looks like it terminates after the 2024 season (you will owe me $20 when it's official) and the biggest surprise of all.........USC is not on the schedule beyond 2026.
Perhaps the biggest tell of all FBSchedules.com no longer lists Notre Dame as an independent but as a member of the ACC.
https://fbschedules.com/future-college-f...schedules/

Looks like someone intends to exercise the option to renew on that one year lease.
If the season gets pushed to spring I wonder if we would stay for Fall 2021 season also.
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(08-08-2020 08:28 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 04:59 PM)Statefan Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 02:59 PM)orangefan Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 02:09 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 12:37 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  They obviously take the shelter this year and be thankful for it. What I'm saying is the Navy game is very important to ND and having to cancel it because the ACC voted to make their +1 game an in state game is a prime example of why they prefer independence. The 6 game scheduling agreement they have with the ACC is the most they're willing to do and it's more than any other conference would get from them.

The conferences have no power over teams' nonconference slate; all they can do is make recommendations.

If Notre Dame told the ACC, "We're playing Navy in Maryland," within an hour the ACC would have granted Notre Dame an exception to their ridiculous rule.

Do you honestly think the ACC would have kicked Notre Dame off their schedule this year just because of a game in Maryland?

Bottom line: the reason this game isn't happening is because Notre Dame decided they'd rather play a home game against Western Michigan than play in Annapolis.

ACC rules prohibited ND from playing at Annapolis. The game would have had to be played in Indiana, presumably as an ND home game, but potentially I suppose at a neutral site as a Navy home game.

My guess is that the primary factors in ND's decision were 1) ND was on the hook to pay WMU for a buy game, regardless of whether it was played; and 2) ND is committed to providing NBC 7 games every season or having their rights fees reduced. Playing Navy would have meant giving up a paying home game in a future year with no obligation to make a guaranty payment since Navy is an alternating home and home series. If ND wanted to play WMU in a future year, they would have to make a second guaranty payment.
Playing Navy as a Navy home game at a neutral site in Indiana (as required by the ACC) would also have meant providing NBC with only 5 home games, not 6 as they are doing or 7 as they have promised to do, thereby suffering a two game reduction in payments.

ACC "rules" don't mean **** regarding ND and Navy.

If ND wanted to play Navy in Somalia, the ACC would have said fine.

The game is of minimal value to Navy if there is no attendance.

Navy was ready to play the game at NMCMS, in front of limited capacity (season ticket holders were braced for shock on the expected cost), the Brigade only, or zero.

It sounds like ND asked - even after the SEC backed out making the in-state requirement less significant - and the ACC did NOT say "fine". From our local beat writer:
Quote: After a week of uncertainty, Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick told Gladchuk it simply was not possible.

“We talked about all kinds of possibilities, but it became obvious there was no gray area. I spoke with Jack this week and learned there would be no exceptions. I had to face the reality there was no flexibility in the way Notre Dame had to operate,” Gladchuk said.

What's preventing you from going there now?
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(08-08-2020 01:50 PM)Statefan Wrote:  
(08-08-2020 08:28 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 04:59 PM)Statefan Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 02:59 PM)orangefan Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 02:09 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  The conferences have no power over teams' nonconference slate; all they can do is make recommendations.

If Notre Dame told the ACC, "We're playing Navy in Maryland," within an hour the ACC would have granted Notre Dame an exception to their ridiculous rule.

Do you honestly think the ACC would have kicked Notre Dame off their schedule this year just because of a game in Maryland?

Bottom line: the reason this game isn't happening is because Notre Dame decided they'd rather play a home game against Western Michigan than play in Annapolis.

ACC rules prohibited ND from playing at Annapolis. The game would have had to be played in Indiana, presumably as an ND home game, but potentially I suppose at a neutral site as a Navy home game.

My guess is that the primary factors in ND's decision were 1) ND was on the hook to pay WMU for a buy game, regardless of whether it was played; and 2) ND is committed to providing NBC 7 games every season or having their rights fees reduced. Playing Navy would have meant giving up a paying home game in a future year with no obligation to make a guaranty payment since Navy is an alternating home and home series. If ND wanted to play WMU in a future year, they would have to make a second guaranty payment.
Playing Navy as a Navy home game at a neutral site in Indiana (as required by the ACC) would also have meant providing NBC with only 5 home games, not 6 as they are doing or 7 as they have promised to do, thereby suffering a two game reduction in payments.

ACC "rules" don't mean **** regarding ND and Navy.

If ND wanted to play Navy in Somalia, the ACC would have said fine.

The game is of minimal value to Navy if there is no attendance.

Navy was ready to play the game at NMCMS, in front of limited capacity (season ticket holders were braced for shock on the expected cost), the Brigade only, or zero.

It sounds like ND asked - even after the SEC backed out making the in-state requirement less significant - and the ACC did NOT say "fine". From our local beat writer:
Quote: After a week of uncertainty, Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick told Gladchuk it simply was not possible.

“We talked about all kinds of possibilities, but it became obvious there was no gray area. I spoke with Jack this week and learned there would be no exceptions. I had to face the reality there was no flexibility in the way Notre Dame had to operate,” Gladchuk said.

What's preventing you from going there now?

What do you mean? Now that WMU fell off their schedule?
We have a conference game on 19 September.

ACC should have granted an exception to the "in-state" rule - a contrivance that had been rendered pointless by the SEC - for ND to travel to play one of the three teams safer from COVID than anyone else (we can and do lock down our twenty year olds) and keep intact the longest continuous intersectional rivalry in college football.

Heres the article with more on the process:
https://www.capitalgazette.com/sports/na...story.html

Nothing mentioned on the Indianapolis option, but South Bend couldnt get worked out.
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Not sure why Notre Dame chose to keep Western Michigan instead of Navy, but they get a do-over now, so the Irish may still play the Midshipmen... unless they choose to play Army instead.
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(08-08-2020 02:53 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-08-2020 01:50 PM)Statefan Wrote:  
(08-08-2020 08:28 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 04:59 PM)Statefan Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 02:59 PM)orangefan Wrote:  ACC rules prohibited ND from playing at Annapolis. The game would have had to be played in Indiana, presumably as an ND home game, but potentially I suppose at a neutral site as a Navy home game.

My guess is that the primary factors in ND's decision were 1) ND was on the hook to pay WMU for a buy game, regardless of whether it was played; and 2) ND is committed to providing NBC 7 games every season or having their rights fees reduced. Playing Navy would have meant giving up a paying home game in a future year with no obligation to make a guaranty payment since Navy is an alternating home and home series. If ND wanted to play WMU in a future year, they would have to make a second guaranty payment.
Playing Navy as a Navy home game at a neutral site in Indiana (as required by the ACC) would also have meant providing NBC with only 5 home games, not 6 as they are doing or 7 as they have promised to do, thereby suffering a two game reduction in payments.

ACC "rules" don't mean **** regarding ND and Navy.

If ND wanted to play Navy in Somalia, the ACC would have said fine.

The game is of minimal value to Navy if there is no attendance.

Navy was ready to play the game at NMCMS, in front of limited capacity (season ticket holders were braced for shock on the expected cost), the Brigade only, or zero.

It sounds like ND asked - even after the SEC backed out making the in-state requirement less significant - and the ACC did NOT say "fine". From our local beat writer:
Quote: After a week of uncertainty, Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick told Gladchuk it simply was not possible.

“We talked about all kinds of possibilities, but it became obvious there was no gray area. I spoke with Jack this week and learned there would be no exceptions. I had to face the reality there was no flexibility in the way Notre Dame had to operate,” Gladchuk said.

What's preventing you from going there now?

What do you mean? Now that WMU fell off their schedule?
We have a conference game on 19 September.

ACC should have granted an exception to the "in-state" rule - a contrivance that had been rendered pointless by the SEC - for ND to travel to play one of the three teams safer from COVID than anyone else (we can and do lock down our twenty year olds) and keep intact the longest continuous intersectional rivalry in college football.

Heres the article with more on the process:
https://www.capitalgazette.com/sports/na...story.html

Nothing mentioned on the Indianapolis option, but South Bend couldnt get worked out.

And now you have the rest of the story:

"Gladchuk acknowledged he and Swarbrick discussed the idea of Navy going to Indiana to play at Notre Dame Stadium this season but said, “we both agreed that three in a row in South Bend didn’t make sense.”

The guy writing the story seems to spend most of his time covering sailing. It's obvious that Navy had reasons not to go to South Bend and ND certainly had a spot open for Navy in South Bend. The ACC's fiduciary obligation is toward ND, not Navy as much as some folks in the ACC like Navy. Sounds to me like the article is a quickie CYA. But what do I know.
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RE: Notre Dame in talks to join the ACC for 2020 football
(08-08-2020 05:53 PM)Statefan Wrote:  
(08-08-2020 02:53 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-08-2020 01:50 PM)Statefan Wrote:  
(08-08-2020 08:28 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-07-2020 04:59 PM)Statefan Wrote:  ACC "rules" don't mean **** regarding ND and Navy.

If ND wanted to play Navy in Somalia, the ACC would have said fine.

The game is of minimal value to Navy if there is no attendance.

Navy was ready to play the game at NMCMS, in front of limited capacity (season ticket holders were braced for shock on the expected cost), the Brigade only, or zero.

It sounds like ND asked - even after the SEC backed out making the in-state requirement less significant - and the ACC did NOT say "fine". From our local beat writer:
Quote: After a week of uncertainty, Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick told Gladchuk it simply was not possible.

“We talked about all kinds of possibilities, but it became obvious there was no gray area. I spoke with Jack this week and learned there would be no exceptions. I had to face the reality there was no flexibility in the way Notre Dame had to operate,” Gladchuk said.

What's preventing you from going there now?

What do you mean? Now that WMU fell off their schedule?
We have a conference game on 19 September.

ACC should have granted an exception to the "in-state" rule - a contrivance that had been rendered pointless by the SEC - for ND to travel to play one of the three teams safer from COVID than anyone else (we can and do lock down our twenty year olds) and keep intact the longest continuous intersectional rivalry in college football.

Heres the article with more on the process:
https://www.capitalgazette.com/sports/na...story.html

Nothing mentioned on the Indianapolis option, but South Bend couldnt get worked out.

And now you have the rest of the story:

"Gladchuk acknowledged he and Swarbrick discussed the idea of Navy going to Indiana to play at Notre Dame Stadium this season but said, “we both agreed that three in a row in South Bend didn’t make sense.”

The guy writing the story seems to spend most of his time covering sailing. It's obvious that Navy had reasons not to go to South Bend and ND certainly had a spot open for Navy in South Bend. The ACC's fiduciary obligation is toward ND, not Navy as much as some folks in the ACC like Navy. Sounds to me like the article is a quickie CYA. But what do I know.
Wags does cover sailing, but job 1 is to be the Navy football / Navy sports beat writer. He's one of the best in the business. And he's able to be that good because our SID is one of the best in the business.
Access and frank quotes from the AD and Coach Niumat. Yeah, there's a little "AD- speak" in there; other than Swarbrick, Gladchuk and maybe a couple others, we'll never really know all of what was explored, offered, or rejected.
Why wouldn't Navy just go to South Bend? Umm, our home game? If there are any fans allowed for the BYU game, it's a couple million bucks. Plus we deliver content for the AAC-ESPN contract.
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