(11-16-2020 06:24 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I'm bumping up this thread for hell's bells (whatever that means).

Everyone were all over the place: No 2020 season, spring 2021 season, etc.

I wanted to play the season early as other sports (e.g., NBA, NHL, MLB, etc.) were albeit some in a bubble.

I do think what NCAA FB came up with was the WORST option, start the 2020 season late, minus OOC games, etc. and run it into cold weather and exploding number of Covid cases. As discussed in another thread, Dr. Fauci, correctly, predicted a 'second wave' as the weather got colder.

My only NEW comment (here) is that the problem with CFB is that it doesn't have a commish. The NCAA is an ASSOCIATION not like the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc.

Decisions in the NCAA are made by committee (insert committee joke here). The NCAA is an umbrella organization. Conferences here made their own independent and yes they were INDEPENDENT!!!

Maybe: #CovidConfusion2020

So we have 50 states each being run differently, each conference being run differently, etc. etc.

yeah this is a case where the NCAA should have rolled out a more unified solution at the start rather than let individual conferences make up their own plans.

(11-16-2020 06:58 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 06:24 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I'm bumping up this thread for hell's bells (whatever that means).

Everyone were all over the place: No 2020 season, spring 2021 season, etc.

I wanted to play the season early as other sports (e.g., NBA, NHL, MLB, etc.) were albeit some in a bubble.

I do think what NCAA FB came up with was the WORST option, start the 2020 season late, minus OOC games, etc. and run it into cold weather and exploding number of Covid cases. As discussed in another thread, Dr. Fauci, correctly, predicted a 'second wave' as the weather got colder.

My only NEW comment (here) is that the problem with CFB is that it doesn't have a commish. The NCAA is an ASSOCIATION not like the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc.

Decisions in the NCAA are made by committee (insert committee joke here). The NCAA is an umbrella organization. Conferences here made their own independent and yes they were INDEPENDENT!!!

Maybe: #CovidConfusion2020

So we have 50 states each being run differently, each conference being run differently, etc. etc.

yeah this is a case where the NCAA should have rolled out a more unified solution at the start rather than let individual conferences make up their own plans.

You both are probably correct in your observations about a unified, national approach.

Nevertheless the President of the USA does not have the power to order a Michigan mask or shutdown mandate and the NCAA president does not have the authority to dictate college football scheduling. With respect to the POTUS, we have chosen to be a Republic, any action deviating from that would require constitutional change. The NCAA change would be far easier. It is what it is.

(11-16-2020 08:30 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 06:58 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 06:24 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I'm bumping up this thread for hell's bells (whatever that means).

Everyone were all over the place: No 2020 season, spring 2021 season, etc.

I wanted to play the season early as other sports (e.g., NBA, NHL, MLB, etc.) were albeit some in a bubble.

I do think what NCAA FB came up with was the WORST option, start the 2020 season late, minus OOC games, etc. and run it into cold weather and exploding number of Covid cases. As discussed in another thread, Dr. Fauci, correctly, predicted a 'second wave' as the weather got colder.

My only NEW comment (here) is that the problem with CFB is that it doesn't have a commish. The NCAA is an ASSOCIATION not like the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc.

Decisions in the NCAA are made by committee (insert committee joke here). The NCAA is an umbrella organization. Conferences here made their own independent and yes they were INDEPENDENT!!!

Maybe: #CovidConfusion2020

So we have 50 states each being run differently, each conference being run differently, etc. etc.

yeah this is a case where the NCAA should have rolled out a more unified solution at the start rather than let individual conferences make up their own plans.

You both are probably correct in your observations about a unified, national approach.

Nevertheless the President of the USA does not have the power to order a Michigan mask or shutdown mandate and the NCAA president does not have the authority to dictate college football scheduling. With respect to the POTUS, we have chosen to be a Republic, any action deviating from that would require constitutional change. The NCAA change would be far easier. It is what it is.

if mark emmert wasnt a coward he would have circled the wagons over the summer with every conference and university and come up with a plan. instead he let the conferences handle it themselves because he abdicated his responsibility.

The one thing, I think, we're missing is how the P5 played into the process.

The most obvious thing is that they didn't want all of those OOC games vs. G5 teams. Why? Who wants to pay a MAC team 1M bucks for a game which will be played before zero fans?

So like MLB, less games = less of a loss. More games = greater loss. In each case where income is constrained because of constraints on ticket sales, that means the goal is to reduce operating expenses.

So the B1G has a FB season. MAC has a mini-MAC FB season.

My only other thought is that I hope that schools have contingency plans and 'rain day funds' to handle the unexpected. In corporate American it is a line of credit with banks. As I suggested in another thread, maybe universities can refinance their debt and defer some principal for say two years although university debt is mostly publicly held so refinancing is both a big legal and market problem.

(11-17-2020 07:13 AM)emu steve Wrote:  The one thing, I think, we're missing is how the P5 played into the process.

The most obvious thing is that they didn't want all of those OOC games vs. G5 teams. Why? Who wants to pay a MAC team 1M bucks for a game which will be played before zero fans?

So like MLB, less games = less of a loss. More games = greater loss. In each case where income is constrained because of constraints on ticket sales, that means the goal is to reduce operating expenses.

So the B1G has a FB season. MAC has a mini-MAC FB season.

My only other thought is that I hope that schools have contingency plans and 'rain day funds' to handle the unexpected. In corporate American it is a line of credit with banks. As I suggested in another thread, maybe universities can refinance their debt and defer some principal for say two years although university debt is mostly publicly held so refinancing is both a big legal and market problem.

Awfully keen financial analysis my friend. The Power 5 schools claimed they wanted conference control of virus protocol and that was the reason for only playing in conference contests. You called out that as BS, those $1M payouts are chump change for a sold out Big House at U-M but a real loser with no gate receipts. Thus their conference protocol concern.

Unfortunately comparing the private and public sector economic discipline is indeed apples to oranges. Private business operates under the threat of bankruptcy and becoming extinct, their financial support base of shareholders is finite unlike the the taxpayers that largely backup the public sector. That said, I think when the dust clears we will all be amazed at the red ink these schools have.