(07-12-2020 06:09 PM)Guitarman Wrote:  Again, not interested in arguing about it because the numbers that come out next year will tell us the truth.

Not sure of the accuracy of this, but it appears we are getting close to year end data:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid...deaths.htm


The graph is fairly useful. It looks like this. But if you click the link and scroll down the page you'll find it interactive:

https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/20/cdc-...-covid-19/

To be exact, the researchers reported that 299,028 more people died from Jan. 26 to Oct. 3 this year than on average during the same stretch from 2015 to 2019. Excess deaths also occurred at higher rates among Latinx, Asian, American Indian, and Black people than among white people, mirroring the disparities in official U.S. Covid-19 death counts.

Most likely, the excess deaths account for some otherwise untallied Covid-19 deaths — those who may have died without being tested or who died at home and whose deaths were not counted as caused by the coronavirus. But the 300,000 number probably also includes people who died because they were scared to seek out medical care because of the pandemic or had their care interrupted, and because of other causes. One limitation of the study, the researchers noted, was that the U.S. population is growing and getting older, so more deaths might have occurred in 2020 versus recent years without a pandemic, making a direct comparison harder.

Deaths among white people in 2020 were just 11.9% higher than average years, a much lower increase than deaths among Latinx people (53.6% higher than average), Asian people (36.6% higher), Black people (32.9% higher), and American Indians and Alaska Natives (28.9% higher). “These disproportionate increases among certain racial and ethnic groups are consistent with noted disparities in Covid-19 mortality,” the researchers wrote.

Gotta wait for the total deaths of all causes before I can make assumptions.

Will 650k people die in the next two weeks? Doubt it, but doesn't matter what I think until January 1st.

Whatever happened to the prisoner that lived down here?

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/...d-74797059

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. -- One in every 5 state and federal prisoners in the United States has tested positive for the coronavirus, a rate more than four times as high as the general population. In some states, more than half of prisoners have been infected, according to data collected by The Associated Press and The Marshall Project.

As the pandemic enters its 10th month — and as the first Americans begin to receive a long-awaited COVID-19 vaccine — at least 275,000 prisoners have been infected, more than 1,700 have died and the spread of the virus behind bars shows no sign of slowing. New cases in prisons this week reached their highest level since testing began in the spring, far outstripping previous peaks in April and August.

“That number is a vast undercount,” said Homer Venters, the former chief medical officer at New York’s Rikers Island jail complex.

Sounds like going to jail is not a good thing. Who woulda thought.