(06-30-2020 03:28 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 02:39 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 02:37 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Missed the biggest one - UConn returning home to the Big East.

Well, not exactly returning home. They stayed with the old Big East, and now they're joining the new one.

The Big East Conference, Inc., a New York corporation, acquired the rights and most of the assets of The Big East Conference, a Delaware partnership, now defunct.

There is no old Big East. The American Athletic Conference was founded in 2013, not 1979. The New York company is legally the Big East. It's like claiming NBC isn't the network founded in 1926 because Comcast now owns it instead of RCA.

It can get complicated, of course. The Big 12, for example, is not the Big 8+4. The Big 12 was a new organization and did not maintain the lineage of the Big 8, which was defunct after 1995, as was the SWC. However, the Pac-12 maintains lineage to the PCC and AAWU conferences, even though none were owned or acquired by the current Pac-12.

Thats incorrect. The AAC is actually the old Big East charter and their tax filings are still found by searching the old Big East name using the same old tax number in this search system. The C7 version of the Big East is the new corporation. Basically, the old Big East sold the name and historical league play records to the C7. The C7 did not get the old corporate charter. If you notice, the C7 paid the exit fee, not the AAC teams. The C7 had to create a new league and a new charter. The AAC did not have to petition the NCAA for a auto-bid---the C7 did. The Big East got the ownership of the name---I suspect that was a pretty important for their TV deal with FOX.

https://990finder.foundationcenter.org/9...&st=RI&ei=

(06-30-2020 11:04 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well, they're all official...

D1 now has 357 programs. Have a feeling that number will go down some- don't think some schools survive.

Could be a sad day in the DavidSt household. Who do you have going down?

(06-30-2020 11:26 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 11:04 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well, they're all official...

D1 now has 357 programs. Have a feeling that number will go down some- don't think some schools survive.

Could be a sad day in the DavidSt household. Who do you have going down?

I agree with the number going down. I could see Chicago St, UMES, Coppin St, Morgan St, and South Carolina St moving down. A couple of those schools may have life rafts. There are quite a few other schools like Presbyterian, Wagner, and Bryant that should look into it as well.

Division One Conference Changes – effective July 1st, 2020:

1) CSU-Bakersfield to Big West Conference (leaving WAC)
2) UC-San Diego to Big West Conference (leaving Division 2 CCAA)
3) Dixie State to Western Athletic Conference (leaving Division 2 RMAC) - FCS football becomes Independent
4) Tarleton State to Western Athletic Conference (leaving Division 2 LSC) - FCS football becomes Independent
5) UM-Kansas City to Summit League (leaving WAC)
6) Purdue-Ft Wayne to Horizon League (leaving Summit League)
7) Robert Morris to Horizon League (leaving NEC) - FCS football joins Big South effective July 1, 2021
8) Bellarmine to Atlantic Sun Conference (leaving Division 2 GLVC)
9) NJIT to America East Conference (leaving Atlantic Sun)
10) UConn to the Big East (leaving AAC) - FBS football becomes Independent

Updated & corrected.

(06-30-2020 10:58 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I think the key of when they did it was that they had already incorporated Marquette and DePaul in. Having those extra 2 schools to the 5 really helped things out IMO. Made it where they could add just 3 more to get to 10...

Not only that, but the original continuity rules were seven schools that have played annually for a set number of years, and they would have been conscious of that rule when they pushed for Marquette and DePaul to be added.

(07-01-2020 01:12 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 11:26 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 11:04 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well, they're all official...

D1 now has 357 programs. Have a feeling that number will go down some- don't think some schools survive.

Could be a sad day in the DavidSt household. Who do you have going down?

I agree with the number going down. I could see Chicago St, UMES, Coppin St, Morgan St, and South Carolina St moving down. A couple of those schools may have life rafts. There are quite a few other schools like Presbyterian, Wagner, and Bryant that should look into it as well.

It'll be really interesting to see how the new move ups fare. Terrible timing to move up.

(07-01-2020 11:11 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 01:12 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 11:26 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 11:04 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well, they're all official...

D1 now has 357 programs. Have a feeling that number will go down some- don't think some schools survive.

Could be a sad day in the DavidSt household. Who do you have going down?

I agree with the number going down. I could see Chicago St, UMES, Coppin St, Morgan St, and South Carolina St moving down. A couple of those schools may have life rafts. There are quite a few other schools like Presbyterian, Wagner, and Bryant that should look into it as well.

It'll be really interesting to see how the new move ups fare. Terrible timing to move up.

I agree. I’m not sure Division I is the right place for Tarleton St, Dixie St, California Baptist, North Alabama, Merrimack, etc. I think the sweet spot for Division I is more like in the 200-250 range instead of the 350-400 range.

(07-01-2020 11:17 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 11:11 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 01:12 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 11:26 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 11:04 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well, they're all official...

D1 now has 357 programs. Have a feeling that number will go down some- don't think some schools survive.

Could be a sad day in the DavidSt household. Who do you have going down?

I agree with the number going down. I could see Chicago St, UMES, Coppin St, Morgan St, and South Carolina St moving down. A couple of those schools may have life rafts. There are quite a few other schools like Presbyterian, Wagner, and Bryant that should look into it as well.

It'll be really interesting to see how the new move ups fare. Terrible timing to move up.

I agree. I’m not sure Division I is the right place for Tarleton St, Dixie St, California Baptist, North Alabama, Merrimack, etc. I think the sweet spot for Division I is more like in the 200-250 range instead of the 350-400 range.

Time will tell. I have a lot of family that went to Tarleton, heck I considered attending it, so I definitely want to keep an eye out on them. They have a lot of work to do facilities wise though.

Anyone got a full list for the changes for next year?

Off the top of my head I have Bethune Cookman and Florida A&M to the SWAC, Robert Morris NC A&T to the Big South, Presbyterian to the Pioneer, and St Thomas to the Summit (pending approval)

(07-01-2020 11:17 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 11:11 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 01:12 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 11:26 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 11:04 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well, they're all official...

D1 now has 357 programs. Have a feeling that number will go down some- don't think some schools survive.

Could be a sad day in the DavidSt household. Who do you have going down?

I agree with the number going down. I could see Chicago St, UMES, Coppin St, Morgan St, and South Carolina St moving down. A couple of those schools may have life rafts. There are quite a few other schools like Presbyterian, Wagner, and Bryant that should look into it as well.

It'll be really interesting to see how the new move ups fare. Terrible timing to move up.

I agree. I’m not sure Division I is the right place for Tarleton St, Dixie St, California Baptist, North Alabama, Merrimack, etc. I think the sweet spot for Division I is more like in the 200-250 range instead of the 350-400 range.

This COVID thing will definitely have unknown issues on D1 sports. It’s a lot easier being D1 in basketball only and not having a football team. This year’s group will probably be the last for awhile.

How college basketball conference alignments are changing for the 2020-21 season
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...21-season/

(07-01-2020 12:02 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Anyone got a full list for the changes for next year?

Off the top of my head I have Bethune Cookman and Florida A&M to the SWAC, Robert Morris NC A&T to the Big South, Presbyterian to the Pioneer, and St Thomas to the Summit (pending approval)

Also in 2021, don't forget the 7 members of the WCHA departing and re-forming the CCHA:
Bemidji State
Bowling Green
Ferris State
Lake Superior State
Michigan Tech
Minnesota State
Northern Michigan

...and leaving Alaska-Anchorage, Alaska-Fairbanks and Alabama-Huntsville high & dry...

(07-01-2020 02:28 PM)jukeboxhero Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 12:02 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Anyone got a full list for the changes for next year?

Off the top of my head I have Bethune Cookman and Florida A&M to the SWAC, Robert Morris NC A&T to the Big South, Presbyterian to the Pioneer, and St Thomas to the Summit (pending approval)

Also in 2021, don't forget the 7 members of the WCHA departing and re-forming the CCHA:
Bemidji State
Bowling Green
Ferris State
Lake Superior State
Michigan Tech
Minnesota State
Northern Michigan

...and leaving Alaska-Anchorage, Alaska-Fairbanks and Alabama-Huntsville high & dry...

Screw them. I hope they're a one-bid league and get clobbered in the first round. I hope the three remaining WCHA members can stick around for more than just this one year, but with how the state of Alaska's struggling, something tells me that's not happening.

Any word on if they're going to stay a conference and try to invite either Arizona State or LIU?

(07-01-2020 12:02 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Anyone got a full list for the changes for next year?

Off the top of my head I have Bethune Cookman and Florida A&M to the SWAC, Robert Morris NC A&T to the Big South, Presbyterian to the Pioneer, and St Thomas to the Summit (pending approval)

SIU-Edwardsville soccer from MAC affiliate to MVC affiliate, effective 2021 season. Drops MAC to 5, raises MVC to 6.

CSU Bakersfield, UC San Diego Officially Join Big West Conference
https://bigwest.org/news/2020/7/1/cross-...rence.aspx

(07-01-2020 02:43 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 12:02 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Anyone got a full list for the changes for next year?

Off the top of my head I have Bethune Cookman and Florida A&M to the SWAC, Robert Morris NC A&T to the Big South, Presbyterian to the Pioneer, and St Thomas to the Summit (pending approval)

SIU-Edwardsville soccer from MAC affiliate to MVC affiliate, effective 2021 season. Drops MAC to 5, raises MVC to 6.

I wonder if the MAC will try to pull EIU from the Summit. That would put the Summit in trouble, instead.

(07-01-2020 02:58 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 02:43 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 12:02 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Anyone got a full list for the changes for next year?

Off the top of my head I have Bethune Cookman and Florida A&M to the SWAC, Robert Morris NC A&T to the Big South, Presbyterian to the Pioneer, and St Thomas to the Summit (pending approval)

SIU-Edwardsville soccer from MAC affiliate to MVC affiliate, effective 2021 season. Drops MAC to 5, raises MVC to 6.

I wonder if the MAC will try to pull EIU from the Summit. That would put the Summit in trouble, instead.

St. Thomas would give the Summit a 6th men's soccer team back if EIU left.

I know the Sun Belt is short a men's soccer team with App State dropping the sport. The WAC has an excess of men's soccer teams -- maybe Chicago State would enjoy some Southern exposure with their new program? Travel would be a little better.

(07-01-2020 05:13 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 02:58 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 02:43 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 12:02 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Anyone got a full list for the changes for next year?

Off the top of my head I have Bethune Cookman and Florida A&M to the SWAC, Robert Morris NC A&T to the Big South, Presbyterian to the Pioneer, and St Thomas to the Summit (pending approval)

SIU-Edwardsville soccer from MAC affiliate to MVC affiliate, effective 2021 season. Drops MAC to 5, raises MVC to 6.

I wonder if the MAC will try to pull EIU from the Summit. That would put the Summit in trouble, instead.

St. Thomas would give the Summit a 6th men's soccer team back if EIU left.

I know the Sun Belt is short a men's soccer team with App State dropping the sport. The WAC has an excess of men's soccer teams -- maybe Chicago State would enjoy some Southern exposure with their new program? Travel would be a little better. [/quote]

Hang on there a minute, travel for Chicago State would be a LOT better in the MAC. 2hrs to NIU, 2.5hrs to WMU, 6hrs to the University of Akron, only WVU is a real long trip at 8.5hrs driving, but shuttle flight to Pittsburgh and it's only 1.5hrs from there.

(07-02-2020 12:46 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 05:13 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 02:58 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 02:43 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 12:02 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Anyone got a full list for the changes for next year?

Off the top of my head I have Bethune Cookman and Florida A&M to the SWAC, Robert Morris NC A&T to the Big South, Presbyterian to the Pioneer, and St Thomas to the Summit (pending approval)

SIU-Edwardsville soccer from MAC affiliate to MVC affiliate, effective 2021 season. Drops MAC to 5, raises MVC to 6.

I wonder if the MAC will try to pull EIU from the Summit. That would put the Summit in trouble, instead.

St. Thomas would give the Summit a 6th men's soccer team back if EIU left.

I know the Sun Belt is short a men's soccer team with App State dropping the sport. The WAC has an excess of men's soccer teams -- maybe Chicago State would enjoy some Southern exposure with their new program? Travel would be a little better.

Hang on there a minute, travel for Chicago State would be a LOT better in the MAC. 2hrs to NIU, 2.5hrs to WMU, 6hrs to the University of Akron, only WVU is a real long trip at 8.5hrs driving, but shuttle flight to Pittsburgh and it's only 1.5hrs from there.

Right, but if the MAC takes EIU instead of Chicago State, the Sun Belt is still short a member.

(07-01-2020 02:58 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 02:43 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 12:02 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Anyone got a full list for the changes for next year?

Off the top of my head I have Bethune Cookman and Florida A&M to the SWAC, Robert Morris NC A&T to the Big South, Presbyterian to the Pioneer, and St Thomas to the Summit (pending approval)

SIU-Edwardsville soccer from MAC affiliate to MVC affiliate, effective 2021 season. Drops MAC to 5, raises MVC to 6.

I wonder if the MAC will try to pull EIU from the Summit. That would put the Summit in trouble, instead.

You're hearing something about EIU moving to the MAC? Is EIU moving to FBS? Would it be an all but football membership?