(06-25-2020 12:50 PM)copycat Wrote:  Now we just need to avoid hiring our own Larry Scott and hope for a good replacement.

We had our Larry Scott before the Pac 12 knew who Larry Scott was. He's retiring next year.

(06-25-2020 12:23 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(06-25-2020 12:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Either Boo Corrigan or Kevin White because NC State and Duke haven't had their turn at running the country club just yet and we have to be fair.

Kevin White is an absolute hard no. He has demonstrated thoroughly and with relentless drive that he has no clue how to run a football program. He should not be put in charge. Period. Full stop.

White has no shot at all.

Boo Corrigan actually brings over 50 years of positive family business experience. IIRC Gene Corrigan hired Terry Holland at UVa, and Lou Holtz at ND. He helped swing FSU into the ACC against MD, UNC's, and Duke's wishes. The son also has experience at ND, Navy, and Army. I'm not certain that one year at NC State makes him and NC State person. If anything his major tie is to ND, then Army, then UVA.

That being said, it's likely to be a SEC guy or perhaps a B12 person whose name we don't really know.

I would vote no on Jurich. He certainly did some good things at Louisville but the bad things outweigh them by far. He hired Petrino. He had his head in the sand while the basketball program was running amok. Some of his business deals would make the mafia blush.

I don't have a name but my 1st, 2nd, and 3rd criteria would be someone that can improve football. Better football will lead to better revenue.

(06-25-2020 11:24 AM)XLance Wrote:  Swofford is going to be difficult to replace, he has done an outstanding job.

I agree! THE ACC NETWORK (when everyone said it could not be done), Cuse, Pitt, BC, VT, Miami, ND, & Louisville! He has done a great job and I am happy he gets to go out on top!

(06-25-2020 04:41 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  I would vote no on Jurich. He certainly did some good things at Louisville but the bad things outweigh them by far. He hired Petrino. He had his head in the sand while the basketball program was running amok. Some of his business deals would make the mafia blush.

I don't have a name but my 1st, 2nd, and 3rd criteria would be someone that can improve football. Better football will lead to better revenue.

we’re not conference USA ...

BEYOND REPROACH

(06-25-2020 10:22 AM)Statefan Wrote:  

(06-25-2020 10:18 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  Swarbrick please.

Swarbrick is 66 and would be a transitional figure due to his age.

He has all the perquisites. But to make him Commissioner might have a price.

Skip it, then. He can stay at ND until he decides to retire.

Radakovich?

(06-25-2020 09:28 PM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  Radakovich?

He's probably best suited for where he is presently to be honest.

(06-25-2020 09:28 PM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  Radakovich?

No. He's more of a brick and mortar AD. His specialty is facilities.

(06-25-2020 01:44 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-25-2020 12:50 PM)copycat Wrote:  Now we just need to avoid hiring our own Larry Scott and hope for a good replacement.

We had our Larry Scott before the Pac 12 knew who Larry Scott was. He's retiring next year.

Swofford is much better than Larry Scott.

There are plenty of negative things on Swofford, won't argue. But during his time as Commissioner, he's handled two rounds of expansion, replaced one team that left (and I don't blame Maryland leaving on Swofford, that was a botched thing on their end), and kept the conference together through the rumors of it's demise during the 2010 expansion from other conferences.

I think half the problem is that the ACC is so damn secretive about everything. We never hear of what's going on until the ink is on paper. Rumors are non-existant from the ACC office. We don't know what's actually going on there.

Given how Larry Scott botched the PAC-12 network, Swofford looks like a damn genius with the ACC Network deal.

Given how badly Larry Scott handled the expansion to 12, Swofford looks smooth with how he got the ACC to 12, then 14.

(06-25-2020 11:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-25-2020 09:28 PM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  Radakovich?

No. He's more of a brick and mortar AD. His specialty is facilities.

That and maintaining a highly proactive dialogue directly with the fans.

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Steal Val Ackerman from the Big East?

That has a certain symmetry to it.....

(06-26-2020 12:09 AM)copycat Wrote:  

(06-25-2020 01:44 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-25-2020 12:50 PM)copycat Wrote:  Now we just need to avoid hiring our own Larry Scott and hope for a good replacement.

We had our Larry Scott before the Pac 12 knew who Larry Scott was. He's retiring next year.

Swofford is much better than Larry Scott.

There are plenty of negative things on Swofford, won't argue. But during his time as Commissioner, he's handled two rounds of expansion, replaced one team that left (and I don't blame Maryland leaving on Swofford, that was a botched thing on their end), and kept the conference together through the rumors of it's demise during the 2010 expansion from other conferences.

I think half the problem is that the ACC is so damn secretive about everything. We never hear of what's going on until the ink is on paper. Rumors are non-existant from the ACC office. We don't know what's actually going on there.

Given how Larry Scott botched the PAC-12 network, Swofford looks like a damn genius with the ACC Network deal.

Given how badly Larry Scott handled the expansion to 12, Swofford looks smooth with how he got the ACC to 12, then 14.

Under Swofford we've gone from the conference with the highest media rights payout to the lowest, and will be that way until at least 2036 because of the ridiculously long contract.

Under Swofford we forced our media partner to work with a third party company they had no desire to work with which resulted in us losing payout money repeatedly.

Under Swofford our bowl lineup has gone from outstanding to absolutely mediocre. We've had bowls in such scenic places as Detroit, Birmingham, and Shreveport. We've downgraded our #2 bowl from a gem like the Peach Bowl to the kid sister to the Citrus Bowl. We've had no presence on New Year's Day for several years now, and we will now play two bowls in open air baseball stadiums in cold weather cities.

Swofford botched the 2003 expansion, resulting in an addition that did nothing to expand our market reach and thus media contract payout and preventing us from the revenue obtained from a conference championship game for one year.

Swofford botched the replacement of Maryland. Rest assured the conference's first choice wasn't who was added.


Swofford has been much, much worse than Larry Scott. Much of Larry Scott's failings can be fixed in 2024. We may well be looking at the fifth and sixth ACC commissioners dealing with the failures of the fourth commissioner, Swofford.

(06-26-2020 09:18 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Steal Val Ackerman from the Big East?

That has a certain symmetry to it.....

That would be the most #goacc solution. Hiring a commissioner with no experience in dealing with football to lead a conference with a major football problem.

(06-26-2020 12:09 AM)copycat Wrote:  

(06-25-2020 01:44 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-25-2020 12:50 PM)copycat Wrote:  Now we just need to avoid hiring our own Larry Scott and hope for a good replacement.

We had our Larry Scott before the Pac 12 knew who Larry Scott was. He's retiring next year.

Swofford is much better than Larry Scott.

There are plenty of negative things on Swofford, won't argue. But during his time as Commissioner, he's handled two rounds of expansion, replaced one team that left (and I don't blame Maryland leaving on Swofford, that was a botched thing on their end), and kept the conference together through the rumors of it's demise during the 2010 expansion from other conferences.

I think half the problem is that the ACC is so damn secretive about everything. We never hear of what's going on until the ink is on paper. Rumors are non-existant from the ACC office. We don't know what's actually going on there.

Given how Larry Scott botched the PAC-12 network, Swofford looks like a damn genius with the ACC Network deal.

Given how badly Larry Scott handled the expansion to 12, Swofford looks smooth with how he got the ACC to 12, then 14.

Are you suggesting that it's a bad thing that no rumors are started or propagated by the ACC office?

I'm just going to chip in that I hear a lot of people touting the idea of a commissioner who understands TV, like Wildhack or others.

Boys...that horse is out of the barn and dead. The time to have a commissioner that understood TV revenue was 15 years ago, and we didn't have it. In all likelihood the next commissioner won't make a meaningful TV deal.

Don't get me wrong, you're going to want expertise in that area to deal with changing landscapes etc, but you can hire experts in associate commissioner roles, or keep consultants. Hiring a commissioner that swings his heaviest axe in the television space makes little sense when 95% of that juice has been squeezed.

To me, I'd be looking to hire a commissioner that would be most likely to increase the competitiveness of football, and maintain the competitiveness of basketball and other sports. You absolutely need a football hire. There won't be a major TV deal cut, so the best way forward for revenue is creating a can't miss product that increases engagement, donations, ticket sales, etc. That might allow the ACC Network to command higher carriage fees in future cable deals (which are long term as well), but also command high carriage fees on future platforms. It would also increase ad revenue on the ACC Network. It should make the ACC more attractive for bowl games.

It also would help to have someone highly respected and influential, especially given all the turnover among commissioners. You really want to make sure as the playoff contracts come back up, and new developments in the NCAA model and amateurism etc. You want someone that's going have some gravitas in those discussions and protect ACC interests.

Honestly, I'm no huge Swarbrick (or Notre Dame) fan, but he checks a lot of boxes other than his age.

(06-26-2020 09:23 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  Under Swofford our bowl lineup has gone from outstanding to absolutely mediocre. We've had bowls in such scenic places as Detroit, Birmingham, and Shreveport. We've downgraded our #2 bowl from a gem like the Peach Bowl to the kid sister to the Citrus Bowl. We've had no presence on New Year's Day for several years now, and we will now play two bowls in open air baseball stadiums in cold weather cities.

How could you forget Boise, Idaho?

(06-26-2020 09:44 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-26-2020 09:23 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  Under Swofford our bowl lineup has gone from outstanding to absolutely mediocre. We've had bowls in such scenic places as Detroit, Birmingham, and Shreveport. We've downgraded our #2 bowl from a gem like the Peach Bowl to the kid sister to the Citrus Bowl. We've had no presence on New Year's Day for several years now, and we will now play two bowls in open air baseball stadiums in cold weather cities.

How could you forget Boise, Idaho?

While cold Boise isn't a shithole like Detroit, Birmingham, or Shreveport, and at least it's in a proper football stadium with proper football sight lines.

(06-26-2020 09:23 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  We've downgraded our #2 bowl from a gem like the Peach Bowl to the kid sister to the Citrus Bowl.

The Peach Bowl got itself in the playoff picture, the ACC got the Orange Bowl tie-in. Which would you rather have?

The Kid Sister Bowl (wish they'd change it back to Tangerine Bowl) has a pretty strong payout despite the name seemingly changing every other season. There is a possible tie-in with the Outback Bowl, and the Gator Bowl tie-in is back as well.

(06-26-2020 09:23 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  Swofford botched the 2003 expansion, resulting in an addition that did nothing to expand our market reach and thus media contract payout and preventing us from the revenue obtained from a conference championship game for one year.

That's not how it happened, he's not a dictator.

(06-26-2020 09:23 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  Swofford botched the replacement of Maryland. Rest assured the conference's first choice wasn't who was added.

UConn?

(06-26-2020 10:13 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(06-26-2020 09:23 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  We've downgraded our #2 bowl from a gem like the Peach Bowl to the kid sister to the Citrus Bowl.

The Peach Bowl got itself in the playoff picture, the ACC got the Orange Bowl tie-in. Which would you rather have?

The Kid Sister Bowl (wish they'd change it back to Tangerine Bowl) has a pretty strong payout despite the name seemingly changing every other season. There is a possible tie-in with the Outback Bowl, and the Gator Bowl tie-in is back as well.

(06-26-2020 09:23 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  Swofford botched the 2003 expansion, resulting in an addition that did nothing to expand our market reach and thus media contract payout and preventing us from the revenue obtained from a conference championship game for one year.

That's not how it happened, he's not a dictator.

(06-26-2020 09:23 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  Swofford botched the replacement of Maryland. Rest assured the conference's first choice wasn't who was added.

UConn?

We already had the Orange Bowl tie-in.

Congrats to the Peach for getting an upgrade. What I would rather have is that out top non-NY6 bowl be an actual upgrade from when the Peach was out #1 non-BCS Bowl. What we got was a downgrade in every way possible. Lower payout, less desirable date, and far less prestigious bowl.


No, he's not a dictator but he's supposed to be a leader and a leader doesn't do anything to embarrass the organization they lead, and the way Swofford bungled his way through the first expansion he did that in spades.


And yes, UConn was the preferred candidate for the PTB in the conference because as always they were trying to give us a basketball solution to a football problem.