(07-03-2020 03:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote: High infection rates are not a problem, as long as hospitalize/death rates remain flat. Actually its a very good thing because the likelihood of catching the virus a second time and then passing it on to someone else is very very low.
I asked this question before my brother was released. In BG KY or the region no one has tested positive a second time. Some people never test negative once they catch it...my brother is still testing positive, six weeks later. But he also made a 100% full recovery other than small effects of the 3rd stroke the hospital let him lay there and have. Without treating him for the first 2.
Herd Immunity with acceptable rates of positive test is the only thing that is going to get this country back to normal. A college student that is not unhealthy in a major way has a 99.5% chance of catching this and the affect will be a slight runny nose to a very mild flu. My brother is 62, had a liver transplant 9 years ago, high blood pressure and dialysis 3 times a week. He thought he had food poison and if they had put him on blood thinners after the 1st or at least the 2nd stroke. He would have been home in 5 to 7 days.
Here's the thing about hospitals....once they get you on the COVID floor. You stay there and if treatment or scans or any other type that might save your life...cant be brought to you. You dont get it.
BTW the doctor twice tried to get us to do comfort care and let my brother pass away. The first time he woke up 5 hours after they tried to get consent...singing Elvis and Johnny Cash songs. The 2nd time, I recorded the conversation and it went like this...
"your brother is very very sick, he's been fighting this for a long time. His organs are shutting down. He's bleeding from every place in his body. He is septic and its causing septic shock. A lot of families would go with making him comfortable and let them pass"
That was based on them not being able to take my brother for a simple scan to see where he was bleeding. Come to find out his bleeding was from a old hemorrhoid scar. After 3 units of blood, it stopped and his blood pressure went up and steady so they could do dialysis. After 2 dialysis treatments the septic infection was gone. The bleeding that was suppose to been throughout his body, stopped. ...
3 days later he's moved out of ICU and 6 days later, yesterday is released. He never was put on a ventilator
It's scary to think how many families the doctors tell this to and the family listens to and believes doctors...they let their brothers, fathers, mothers, Sisters, go ahead and die. My brother thanked me for saving his life because if I took the doctor at his word.....
he's 6 ft under, today.
Part of the call edit after we said no to remove personal questions
(07-03-2020 03:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote: High infection rates are not a problem, as long as hospitalize/death rates remain flat. Actually its a very good thing because the likelihood of catching the virus a second time and then passing it on to someone else is very very low.
I asked this question before my brother was released. In BG KY or the region no one has tested positive a second time. Some people never test negative once they catch it...my brother is still testing positive, six weeks later. But he also made a 100% full recovery other than small effects of the 3rd stroke the hospital let him lay there and have. Without treating him for the first 2.
Herd Immunity with acceptable rates of positive test is the only thing that is going to get this country back to normal. A college student that is not unhealthy in a major way has a 99.5% chance of catching this and the affect will be a slight runny nose to a very mild flu. My brother is 62, had a liver transplant 9 years ago, high blood pressure and dialysis 3 times a week. He thought he had food poison and if they had put him on blood thinners after the 1st or at least the 2nd stroke. He would have been home in 5 to 7 days.
Here's the thing about hospitals....once they get you on the COVID floor. You stay there and if treatment or scans or any other type that might save your life...cant be brought to you. You dont get it.
BTW the doctor twice tried to get us to do comfort care and let my brother pass away. The first time he woke up 5 hours after they tried to get consent...singing Elvis and Johnny Cash songs. The 2nd time, I recorded the conversation and it went like this...
"your brother is very very sick, he's been fighting this for a long time. His organs are shutting down. He's bleeding from every place in his body. He is septic and its causing septic shock. A lot of families would go with making him comfortable and let them pass"
That was based on them not being able to take my brother for a simple scan to see where he was bleeding. Come to find out his bleeding was from a old hemorrhoid scar. After 3 units of blood, it stopped and his blood pressure went up and steady so they could do dialysis. After 2 dialysis treatments the septic infection was gone. The bleeding that was suppose to been throughout his body, stopped. ...
3 days later he's moved out of ICU and 6 days later, yesterday is released. He never was put on a ventilator
It's scary to think how many families the doctors tell this to and the family listens to and believes doctors...they let their brothers, fathers, mothers, Sisters, go ahead and die. My brother thanked me for saving his life because if I took the doctor at his word.....
he's 6 ft under, today.
Part of the call edit after we said no to remove personal questions
Very sorry your brother and your family had to endure this. It’s a perfect example of the extremes of this virus. From infected and no symptoms in one group of the population to infected and at death’s doorstep in another. And I think that’s why it’s so hard to get across to the nation how serious it is to everybody.
(07-03-2020 03:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote: Herd Immunity with acceptable rates of positive test is the only thing that is going to get this country back to normal.
(07-03-2020 03:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote: Herd Immunity with acceptable rates of positive test is the only thing that is going to get this country back to normal.
Great article, Dragon. Highlighting the importance of careful and deep analysis of the available data.. it’s very tempting to just use the “headline data” as the basis for comparison.
Bottom line... the US is not Sweden.