(06-23-2020 07:58 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 05:56 PM)TuckerGnat Wrote:  I saw that somebody on their boards posted, "Although I don't agree with the concept of BLM, I hope the best for them."

The concept of BLM is that Black Lives Matter... what about that doesn't this guy agree with? It's not saying no other lives matter. It's simply asking the rest of the world to agree that African Americans shouldn't be strangled, shot in the back, sodomized with a broom handle, etc. I would hope we can all agree with that pretty basic concept.

You are 100% wrong. BLM the organization is 100% a Marxist movement masquerading behind minority groups. Black, Hispanics and LGBT groups. Now with that being said, no person should discriminated against due to color.

Yep. The co-founder of BLM said so... https://backtojerusalem.com/we-are-train...e-cullors/

(06-23-2020 10:09 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 07:58 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 05:56 PM)TuckerGnat Wrote:  I saw that somebody on their boards posted, "Although I don't agree with the concept of BLM, I hope the best for them."

The concept of BLM is that Black Lives Matter... what about that doesn't this guy agree with? It's not saying no other lives matter. It's simply asking the rest of the world to agree that African Americans shouldn't be strangled, shot in the back, sodomized with a broom handle, etc. I would hope we can all agree with that pretty basic concept.

You are 100% wrong. BLM the organization is 100% a Marxist movement masquerading behind minority groups. Black, Hispanics and LGBT groups. Now with that being said, no person should discriminated against due to color.

You seriously have no clue

No clue about what? The organization of BLM? Self proclaimed Marxist?

(06-23-2020 10:35 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 10:09 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 07:58 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 05:56 PM)TuckerGnat Wrote:  I saw that somebody on their boards posted, "Although I don't agree with the concept of BLM, I hope the best for them."

The concept of BLM is that Black Lives Matter... what about that doesn't this guy agree with? It's not saying no other lives matter. It's simply asking the rest of the world to agree that African Americans shouldn't be strangled, shot in the back, sodomized with a broom handle, etc. I would hope we can all agree with that pretty basic concept.

You are 100% wrong. BLM the organization is 100% a Marxist movement masquerading behind minority groups. Black, Hispanics and LGBT groups. Now with that being said, no person should discriminated against due to color.

You seriously have no clue

No clue about what? The organization of BLM? Self proclaimed Marxist?

People protesting the deaths of African Americans are allowed to espouse whatever political ideology they want. I won't mention (will I?) Trump's constant kow-towing to fascist and other white nationalist interests. When there are millions of people in the streets, you're going to find one of them whose politics you disagree with. And obviously you'll use that as an excuse to say Black Lives Don't Matter. The rest of us will have no part of it, because Black Lives Do, In Fact, Matter, Liberty University Be Damned.

Move this to spin room.

(06-23-2020 10:35 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 10:09 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 07:58 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 05:56 PM)TuckerGnat Wrote:  I saw that somebody on their boards posted, "Although I don't agree with the concept of BLM, I hope the best for them."

The concept of BLM is that Black Lives Matter... what about that doesn't this guy agree with? It's not saying no other lives matter. It's simply asking the rest of the world to agree that African Americans shouldn't be strangled, shot in the back, sodomized with a broom handle, etc. I would hope we can all agree with that pretty basic concept.

You are 100% wrong. BLM the organization is 100% a Marxist movement masquerading behind minority groups. Black, Hispanics and LGBT groups. Now with that being said, no person should discriminated against due to color.

You seriously have no clue

No clue about what? The organization of BLM? Self proclaimed Marxist?

Stop watching Fox News and OANN.

(06-23-2020 03:46 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 02:44 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  So much denial on their forum. yikes

Yeah - it is scary. Outright racism, denialism, and more. A few level heads.

After reading the post about how BLM is conspiring with the LGBT to destroy the traditional family set which they also said was the last thing the blacks need right now (that tired stereotype that black people don't have dads), I decided I had read enough.

Good ole Liberty

(06-24-2020 07:20 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 03:46 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 02:44 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  So much denial on their forum. yikes

Yeah - it is scary. Outright racism, denialism, and more. A few level heads.

After reading the post about how BLM is conspiring with the LGBT to destroy the traditional family set which they also said was the last thing the blacks need right now (that tired stereotype that black people don't have dads), I decided I had read enough.

Good ole Liberty

You do realize that the only fan from Liberty to make a post in this thread is me right? And I only wished the best to both our former players?
I’m not sure how Liberty is being lumped into all these other comments and receiving the ire of the public here.

(06-24-2020 07:27 AM)army56mike Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 07:20 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 03:46 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 02:44 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  So much denial on their forum. yikes

Yeah - it is scary. Outright racism, denialism, and more. A few level heads.

After reading the post about how BLM is conspiring with the LGBT to destroy the traditional family set which they also said was the last thing the blacks need right now (that tired stereotype that black people don't have dads), I decided I had read enough.

Good ole Liberty

You do realize that the only fan from Liberty to make a post in this thread is me right? And I only wished the best to both our former players?
I’m not sure how Liberty is being lumped into all these other comments and receiving the ire of the public here.

It could have been a reference to the comments made on the Liberty boards, but I'm just spitballing.

(06-24-2020 04:50 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 10:35 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 10:09 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 07:58 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 05:56 PM)TuckerGnat Wrote:  I saw that somebody on their boards posted, "Although I don't agree with the concept of BLM, I hope the best for them."

The concept of BLM is that Black Lives Matter... what about that doesn't this guy agree with? It's not saying no other lives matter. It's simply asking the rest of the world to agree that African Americans shouldn't be strangled, shot in the back, sodomized with a broom handle, etc. I would hope we can all agree with that pretty basic concept.

You are 100% wrong. BLM the organization is 100% a Marxist movement masquerading behind minority groups. Black, Hispanics and LGBT groups. Now with that being said, no person should discriminated against due to color.

You seriously have no clue

No clue about what? The organization of BLM? Self proclaimed Marxist?

Stop watching Fox News and OANN.

Maybe you should read what the founders of BLM said. They totally admit to being Marxist. I’ve even posted a link of the interview with the co-founder.

(06-24-2020 07:27 AM)army56mike Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 07:20 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 03:46 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 02:44 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  So much denial on their forum. yikes

Yeah - it is scary. Outright racism, denialism, and more. A few level heads.

After reading the post about how BLM is conspiring with the LGBT to destroy the traditional family set which they also said was the last thing the blacks need right now (that tired stereotype that black people don't have dads), I decided I had read enough.

Good ole Liberty

You do realize that the only fan from Liberty to make a post in this thread is me right? And I only wished the best to both our former players?
I’m not sure how Liberty is being lumped into all these other comments and receiving the ire of the public here.

I realize that. I'm referring to what I read on ASeaOfRed.com not this board.

It doesn't really matter what your views are on BLM. I mean, it does but not in this discussion.

The issue here is Jerry Falwell, Jr. I don't care for his politics but I'll admit that he's made a lot of smart moves that have quickly propelled the University to where it is and where it's going. Now though he's becoming a toxic element that a lot of the students, alumni and other interest holders feel doesn't represent the schools value as a Christian University and will ultimately hold them back. I know this as I know plenty of these people living an hour from Lynchburg. He needs to be forced out. They've also lost a star ladies basketball player, many black staff and the support of alumni. Most of this is due to JFJ's tweet depicting our governor in blackface on a facemask.

https://wset.com/news/local/top-liberty-...sitivities

I'm hoping Old Dominion can land one or both of these transfers.

(06-23-2020 05:33 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Who would have thought an arch-conservative religious school would be racially insensitive?

Exactly. I always hate to blame the players but what did they think Liberty was going to be like? None of this is exactly new stuff.

(06-24-2020 07:50 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  It doesn't really matter what your views are on BLM. I mean, it does but not in this discussion.

The issue here is Jerry Falwell, Jr. I don't care for his politics but I'll admit that he's made a lot of smart moves that have quickly propelled the University to where it is and where it's going. Now though he's becoming a toxic element that a lot of the students, alumni and other interest holders feel doesn't represent the schools value as a Christian University and will ultimately hold them back. I know this as I know plenty of these people living an hour from Lynchburg. He needs to be forced out. They've also lost a star ladies basketball player, many black staff and the support of alumni. Most of this is due to JFJ's tweet depicting our governor in blackface on a facemask.

https://wset.com/news/local/top-liberty-...sitivities

I'm hoping Old Dominion can land one or both of these transfers.

Correct. Falwell has done really well in many regards (going FBS, massive online programs, growth, etc) but he needs to get out of his own way or be pushed out.

(06-23-2020 07:14 PM)Shox Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 05:56 PM)TuckerGnat Wrote:  I saw that somebody on their boards posted, "Although I don't agree with the concept of BLM, I hope the best for them."

The concept of BLM is that Black Lives Matter... what about that doesn't this guy agree with? It's not saying no other lives matter. It's simply asking the rest of the world to agree that African Americans shouldn't be strangled, shot in the back, sodomized with a broom handle, etc. I would hope we can all agree with that pretty basic concept.

No, the concept and value of the current BLM movement has been completely lost in the last month. It's now a vehicle for extreme left wing propoganda. We as a country lost a huge opportunity to call for real.change and unity after Floyd's death was caught on video. Battle lines have now been draw and folks have made up their minds on what BLM means to them.

You're going away from the point. What did those two young men feel that made them say , you know what , this campus and school is not for me and I can't ignore that fact anymore. THAT is the point.

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(06-23-2020 08:20 PM)army56mike Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 06:30 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 06:19 PM)army56mike Wrote:  I wish those two young men the best in their future endeavors. May they both be blessed and be a blessing wherever they end up. Unfortunately they aren’t a fit for Liberty.

I understand that the university isn't the right fit for them but how do they not fit at Liberty?

I’m just saying the same thing you just did.

No he asked you a question based on your statement.

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(06-23-2020 08:21 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 07:32 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 07:14 PM)Shox Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 05:56 PM)TuckerGnat Wrote:  I saw that somebody on their boards posted, "Although I don't agree with the concept of BLM, I hope the best for them."

The concept of BLM is that Black Lives Matter... what about that doesn't this guy agree with? It's not saying no other lives matter. It's simply asking the rest of the world to agree that African Americans shouldn't be strangled, shot in the back, sodomized with a broom handle, etc. I would hope we can all agree with that pretty basic concept.

No, the concept and value of the current BLM movement has been completely lost in the last month. It's now a vehicle for extreme left wing propoganda. We as a country lost a huge opportunity to call for real.change and unity after Floyd's death was caught on video. Battle lines have now been draw and folks have made up their minds on what BLM means to them.

If that is what you have taken away from the Protests over the last month, then you are part of the problem.

No change was going to happen without protests. Change is happening. Change is sometimes messy, but for many POC, status quo is worse.

We never could have had unity because 35% of the country don't think the Police did anything wrong, and since Floyd had a record, he someone was at fault.

When Kaepernick tried to protest peacefully, he was run out the league. Every time a Black person was killed there was always the excuse and coverups, with little or no punishments.

Sorry if some of you have been made uncomfortable over the last month - maybe that will open enough eyes to make a difference.

Equality, equal treatment under the law, freedom to live without being in fear of being shot or killed aren't left wing ideals. They should be AMERICAN Ideals. HUMAN ideals.

Look at Ahmaud Arbery - hunted down, terrorized and killed solely because he was black. And Law Enforcement covered for the murderers.

Look at Breonna Taylor - murdered in her own home by sheer incompetence, no charges filed yet, Louisville tried to sweep it under the rug.

Change is needed. Change will happen. Count on it.

George Floyd was inexcusable and anyone who says otherwise is in denial. Now I do feel bad for 2 of the other 3 cops there, they had zero real experience and still should have stepped in and stopped it. But they had 3 shifts between them. They will likely just be fired. Chauvin will get killed in prison.

The Arbery case, I don’t think he was “hunted”, but was murdered. Those guys are toast as well. His criminal past didn’t justify what happened to him, same as with Floyd.

Breonna Taylor....that’s an interesting case because of the way the warrants were issued and the fact the she was named in the warrant as well. There has been so much missing information on this case it’s too early to really say what happened.

Now to Black Lives Matter. The organization is built on lies and deceit. It is a Marxist organization hiding behind racial and sexual orientation inequalities. Below is a link to their own self admission as such.

https://youtu.be/HgEUbSzOTZ8

Wasn't hunted? Was chased by two trucks, HIT by one truck and when he had no choice tried to defend himself against an armed posse as was shots in the chest. How was he not hunted? In Georgia that is a lynching every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

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(06-23-2020 07:45 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 07:14 PM)Shox Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 05:56 PM)TuckerGnat Wrote:  The concept of BLM is that Black Lives Matter... what about that doesn't this guy agree with? It's not saying no other lives matter. It's simply asking the rest of the world to agree that African Americans shouldn't be strangled, shot in the back, sodomized with a broom handle, etc. I would hope we can all agree with that pretty basic concept.

No, the concept and value of the current BLM movement has been completely lost in the last month. It's now a vehicle for extreme left wing propoganda.

Incorrect. The current Black Lives Matter movement is more mainstream now than it ever was before.

This has been documented in numerous articles based on recent trends in polling data:

How the Black Lives Matter movement went mainstream - The ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com › national › 2020/06/09
Jun 9, 2020 -

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

Amid Protests, Majorities Across Racial and Ethnic Groups Express Support for the Black Lives Matter Movement

June 12, 2020

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2020/06/...-movement/

How Public Opinion Has Moved on Black Lives Matter

By Nate Cohn and Kevin QuealyJune 10, 2020
In the last two weeks, American voters’ support for the Black Lives Matter movement increased almost as much as it had in the preceding two years.

"By a 28-point margin, Civiqs finds that a majority of American voters support the movement, up from a 17-point margin before the most recent wave of protests began."

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020...tudes.html

Right now the same thing is happening to BLM that happened to the Tea Party.

The Tea Party started out as supporters of small government, and was hijacked by the far right. It eventually evolved into Trump's base, but most of the original Tea Party supporters are now Never-Trumpers.

BLM started out as supporters of police reform, and is being hijacked by the far left.


In a pure democracy, the people who have the most passion (i.e. the extremists or the special interest groups) will seek to hijack any popular movement that meets their ends.

(06-24-2020 07:50 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  It doesn't really matter what your views are on BLM. I mean, it does but not in this discussion.

The issue here is Jerry Falwell, Jr. I don't care for his politics but I'll admit that he's made a lot of smart moves that have quickly propelled the University to where it is and where it's going. Now though he's becoming a toxic element that a lot of the students, alumni and other interest holders feel doesn't represent the schools value as a Christian University and will ultimately hold them back. I know this as I know plenty of these people living an hour from Lynchburg. He needs to be forced out. They've also lost a star ladies basketball player, many black staff and the support of alumni. Most of this is due to JFJ's tweet depicting our governor in blackface on a facemask.

https://wset.com/news/local/top-liberty-...sitivities

I'm hoping Old Dominion can land one or both of these transfers.

Is it just him or the environment on campus. It seems like that's what the player statement is referring to.

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(06-24-2020 07:27 AM)army56mike Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 07:20 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 03:46 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 02:44 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  So much denial on their forum. yikes

Yeah - it is scary. Outright racism, denialism, and more. A few level heads.

After reading the post about how BLM is conspiring with the LGBT to destroy the traditional family set which they also said was the last thing the blacks need right now (that tired stereotype that black people don't have dads), I decided I had read enough.

Good ole Liberty

You do realize that the only fan from Liberty to make a post in this thread is me right? And I only wished the best to both our former players?
I’m not sure how Liberty is being lumped into all these other comments and receiving the ire of the public here.

I was referring to A Sea of Red

(06-24-2020 03:50 AM)seaking4steel Wrote:  Move this to spin room.

The whole thing was an attempt to troll Liberty. Maybe the wild west spin room.