I don't know if it has been posted elsewhere but I just saw it on Facebook.

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None of the Higher Education Institutions have flown the State flag of Mississippi in quite awhile. Seems legit to punish the innocent athletes for what the politics is, right? Typical CUSA

(06-22-2020 01:46 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  None of the Higher Education Institutions have flown the State flag of Mississippi in quite awhile. Seems legit to punish the innocent athletes for what the politics is, right? Typical CUSA

They're punishing (or withholding from) institutions based on the state government's stance. They believe associating, even indirectly, with Confederate imagery, works against their values, so they pull back (or just ride on the SEC's coattails, either or).

As far as I know, Southern Miss teams and their athletes are as eligible for CUSA events as any other conference member.

It’s just a convenient excuse not to have to spend time in Hattiesburg

This is in line with the NCAA announcement last week. No NCAA championship round will be played in Mississippi including regional or super regional sites awarded based on seeding such as baseball.

(06-22-2020 01:50 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 01:46 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  None of the Higher Education Institutions have flown the State flag of Mississippi in quite awhile. Seems legit to punish the innocent athletes for what the politics is, right? Typical CUSA

They're punishing (or withholding from) institutions based on the state government's stance. They believe associating, even indirectly, with Confederate imagery, works against their values, so they pull back (or just ride on the SEC's coattails, either or).

As far as I know, Southern Miss teams and their athletes are as eligible for CUSA events as any other conference member.

I believe they are just being as pc as possible in order to avoid any possibility of controversy. I doubt they their values ever entered into it or they would have made a stand years ago. It's political expediency.

Time to have that statewide in person vote. Let the people of the state decide which flag to fly.

(06-22-2020 04:39 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  Time to have that statewide in person vote. Let the people of the state decide which flag to fly.

And if they chose "wrong" the banishings will stand.

Shouldn’t the Democratic party have to change their name too since they promoted slavery and slaughtered so many innocent blacks through the KKK?

(06-22-2020 01:50 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 01:46 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  None of the Higher Education Institutions have flown the State flag of Mississippi in quite awhile. Seems legit to punish the innocent athletes for what the politics is, right? Typical CUSA

They're punishing (or withholding from) institutions based on the state government's stance. They believe associating, even indirectly, with Confederate imagery, works against their values, so they pull back (or just ride on the SEC's coattails, either or).

As far as I know, Southern Miss teams and their athletes are as eligible for CUSA events as any other conference member.

Lol...Huh?

(06-22-2020 01:51 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  It’s just a convenient excuse not to have to spend time in Hattiesburg

Having attended games at Legion and bartow. Plus 3 straight years at the conf tourney where your building your new stadium, i can say the exact same thing.

So why is the State flag OK for regular season games but not championship games? Seems like political posturing to me.

If they REALLY cared about the flag and their "values" they would ban all NCAA events from taking place in the State.

For those outside of Mississippi, please dont think that everyone who isnt liberal is fighting to keep this flag.
Ive voted red my entire life with the exception of one person.
I can only tell you of one ancestry who was in the civil war, he was one of many deserters.
The current flag means nothing to me. I had no opinion until it was pulled down and the cluckers showed up every sunday for 4 years to protest No state flag, no state funds. Since then ive wanted it gone.

You will find many conservative people who actually give money, buy tickets, travel to games etc that feel the same way. Things have changed enough that both sides of this are actually scared of the people voting.

I agree, that flag needs to go. Georgia figured that out years ago. A significant part of society sees that as a symbol of hate that is no better than the nazi flag. This isn’t some first time issue. That flag has generations of repeated resentment attached to it. Solidifying that point...an African American professional driver speaks out about his sports allowance of the flag. The sport decides to ban the flag...the next day there’s a noose hanging in his cars garage. Symbol is toxic.

(06-22-2020 04:57 PM)Texasowl Wrote:  Shouldn’t the Democratic party have to change their name too since they promoted slavery and slaughtered so many innocent blacks through the KKK?

Okay, let’s not beat around the bush. The civil war “freed“ slaves, but in no way did it flip some magical switch that made everything okay. Both political parties were extremely racist and implemented all kinds of things to suppress black people, a lot of which have created some of the economic disparities that you still see today. Subjectively, you’d be absolutely correct that the democrats did horrible things to African Americans post civil war...it’s easy to see all the black codes and Jim Crow BS that southern democrats implemented across the south (including pretty much the loss of voting rights). The newly granted “freedom”, plus the immediate oppression meant that 99% of AAs were republican in that time frame. The issue going forward from this point is that republicans did not oppose these democratic laws. They may not have explicitly created many of them, but they implicitly voted for, and were complicit in the implementation of these laws. After all, free is free, the country is unified and industrializing appropriately. These southern laws caused a lot of African Americans to migrate to the North (which almost immediately began redlining...look it up). Surprisingly, the Democratic Party up north backed organized labor, which gave people real employment possibilities (southern AAs for the most part were still being paid crumbs and certainly were not amassing anything to be associated with wealth). Fast forward to the 1960s and beyond, the Democratic Party, got behind the civil rights movement. That’s where you saw the majority of African American defections from republicans to democrats.

So yes, democrats do have a terrible history of hate filled laws, lynchings, and overall suppression in southern states (Andrew Jackson reversed a decision that possibly had the potential to nullify the overall economic disparities between whites and blacks and very well could have changed the very conversation we are having now). Also true however is that republicans for the most part turned a blind eye to all of this once the war was over. Ironically, dems are the primary party promoting the idea of social and civil justice (even if only for pandering purposes). Maybe it’s a gigantic “Hey! Look at how I’ve changed!” act, but it’s something that republicans currently don’t give enough/give little effort to, and sometimes even play the part of antagonist. As mentioned earlier, this is historically the primary thing that makes AAs democrats.

Fun fact: Most AAs are socially conservative...but are not republicans. Look it up!

Edit: Here’s and article that sums up the book that I just wrote.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2020...787551001/

(06-23-2020 01:28 AM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 04:57 PM)Texasowl Wrote:  Shouldn’t the Democratic party have to change their name too since they promoted slavery and slaughtered so many innocent blacks through the KKK?

Okay, let’s not beat around the bush. The civil war “freed“ slaves, but in no way did it flip some magical switch that made everything okay. Both political parties were extremely racist and implemented all kinds of things to suppress black people, a lot of which have created some of the economic disparities that you still see today. Subjectively, you’d be absolutely correct that the democrats did horrible things to African Americans post civil war...it’s easy to see all the black codes and Jim Crow BS that southern democrats implemented across the south (including pretty much the loss of voting rights). The newly granted “freedom”, plus the immediate oppression meant that 99% of AAs were republican in that time frame. The issue going forward from this point is that republicans did not oppose these democratic laws. They may not have explicitly created many of them, but they implicitly voted for, and were complicit in the implementation of these laws. After all, free is free, the country is unified and industrializing appropriately. These southern laws caused a lot of African Americans to migrate to the North (which almost immediately began redlining...look it up). Surprisingly, the Democratic Party up north backed organized labor, which gave people real employment possibilities (southern AAs for the most part were still being paid crumbs and certainly were not amassing anything to be associated with wealth). Fast forward to the 1960s and beyond, the Democratic Party, got behind the civil rights movement. That’s where you saw the majority of African American defections from republicans to democrats.

So yes, democrats do have a terrible history of hate filled laws, lynchings, and overall suppression in southern states (Andrew Jackson reversed a decision that possibly had the potential to nullify the overall economic disparities between whites and blacks and very well could have changed the very conversation we are having now). Also true however is that republicans for the most part turned a blind eye to all of this once the war was over. Ironically, dems are the primary party promoting the idea of social and civil justice (even if only for pandering purposes). Maybe it’s a gigantic “Hey! Look at how I’ve changed!” act, but it’s something that republicans currently don’t give enough/give little effort to, and sometimes even play the part of antagonist. As mentioned earlier, this is historically the primary thing that makes AAs democrats.

Fun fact: Most AAs are socially conservative...but are not republicans. Look it up!

Edit: Here’s and article that sums up the book that I just wrote.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2020...787551001/

Also a fact that when the dems started backing civil rights in 60s is when all the white people fighting equality moved to repubs. So what we have today is the exact opposite of where we were prior to desegregation.

(06-22-2020 01:51 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  It’s just a convenient excuse not to have to spend time in Hattiesburg