(06-22-2020 06:35 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 05:11 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Don't see how actually playing a season is going to work if you're constantly putting guys into quarantine as they test positive throughout the year. Presumably those athletes being quarantined won't be practicing. Thats a nightmare for any coaching staff as they try to set depth charts and develop players. I think the chances of us having the season this year is getting slimmer by the minute. However, I don't see why they wouldn't just be able to play football in the spring, so I do think we ultimately get the season off just probably not this calendar year.

How is this different than players getting the flu during the season, and not practicing until they get better. This isn't the NFL where you have a limited roster and you may only have a 2nd string qb. Most college football teams have upwards of 100 players, and some freshmen or sophomores who normally wouldn't play this season but would love to get the opportunity to play on saturday.

Its also a sport that if you lose once you may have no shot at a national title. Lets say Auburn-Bama meet in the Iron Bowl with the Division title on the line and the starting QB for one of the teams tests positive. Is that kid going to have to be benched? If so, then there's just no point in playing the season.

(06-22-2020 07:42 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 06:35 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 05:11 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Don't see how actually playing a season is going to work if you're constantly putting guys into quarantine as they test positive throughout the year. Presumably those athletes being quarantined won't be practicing. Thats a nightmare for any coaching staff as they try to set depth charts and develop players. I think the chances of us having the season this year is getting slimmer by the minute. However, I don't see why they wouldn't just be able to play football in the spring, so I do think we ultimately get the season off just probably not this calendar year.

How is this different than players getting the flu during the season, and not practicing until they get better. This isn't the NFL where you have a limited roster and you may only have a 2nd string qb. Most college football teams have upwards of 100 players, and some freshmen or sophomores who normally wouldn't play this season but would love to get the opportunity to play on saturday.

Its also a sport that if you lose once you may have no shot at a national title. Lets say Auburn-Bama meet in the Iron Bowl with the Division title on the line and the starting QB for one of the teams tests positive. Is that kid going to have to be benched? If so, then there's just no point in playing the season.

If you asked the players you're making this decision for, I'd imagine their answer would be very different than the selfish reason you just gave. They just want to play football, period.

(06-21-2020 10:26 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 08:43 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 07:18 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 10:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 09:54 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Or better how about some act as if they have just a little bit of brains. Just a little. Let's remember .. your actions affect others. We don't get to act in a vacuum here ... albeit some half-wits like to it argue that way.

A half-wit can figure out who is really at risk here. If you're in a nursing home, don't go.

If you're over 65, or having underlying conditions, don't go.

If you have vulnerable people living with you, don't go.

Everyone else can take the typical precautions and go. It's not rocket science. And people with no authority telling other people what to do is dumb.

Too bad the real world isn't as simple as the one you live in. People don't exist and people to live in the nice neat little categories you described. As for someone telling you what to do - grow up. Take responsibility and do the right thing on your own.

Actually, the real world I live in is that simple.

Learn the facts, man. Covid19 isn't like radiation after a nuclear blast. You CAN protect yourself without ANY action from others.

If you're at high risk, protect yourself.

If you're not at high risk, go about your life.

If you're so stupid that you think the answer is for the government to lock down perfectly healthy people as some sort of deterrent to protect you from the boogeyman... I don't know what to tell you.

Oh I don't doubt the black and white world you live in is that simple. Yet people still need to work oh, and some of those people have comorbidities that put them at great risk. Some of those same people need to grocery shop. And I bet some of those people need to make doctor's visits. Some life has to go on even in the presence of people who refuse to wear masks in indoor crowded places.

And then this virus isn't that simple - there are pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic people out there. how many asymptomatic and contagious? Well they've pinned the number down between 10 and 70%. And how long are you pre-symptomatic is still highly contagious? It looks like between 5 and 14 days. All those people who do not know they are contagious. And more we really don't know how this affects us long-term -although you seem to - at first this was a respiratory disease, then it became a respiratory and vascular disease, and now it seems to have the potential to affect every organ in the body. What kind of long-term disabilities like this cause? You don't know the answer to this and neither do I. You don't know how contagious is and neither do I. You don't know all the avenues through which this virus might be spread. So it's just not that simple is it? The 'you mind your business and I'll mind mine' doesn't get to work here. I wish it did but it doesn't - sadly. Your actions - whether you realize it or not - may infect somebody who infects someone else who infects someone you love.

FIFY

(06-22-2020 08:05 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 07:42 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 06:35 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 05:11 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Don't see how actually playing a season is going to work if you're constantly putting guys into quarantine as they test positive throughout the year. Presumably those athletes being quarantined won't be practicing. Thats a nightmare for any coaching staff as they try to set depth charts and develop players. I think the chances of us having the season this year is getting slimmer by the minute. However, I don't see why they wouldn't just be able to play football in the spring, so I do think we ultimately get the season off just probably not this calendar year.

How is this different than players getting the flu during the season, and not practicing until they get better. This isn't the NFL where you have a limited roster and you may only have a 2nd string qb. Most college football teams have upwards of 100 players, and some freshmen or sophomores who normally wouldn't play this season but would love to get the opportunity to play on saturday.

Its also a sport that if you lose once you may have no shot at a national title. Lets say Auburn-Bama meet in the Iron Bowl with the Division title on the line and the starting QB for one of the teams tests positive. Is that kid going to have to be benched? If so, then there's just no point in playing the season.

If you asked the players you're making this decision for, I'd imagine their answer would be very different than the selfish reason you just gave. They just want to play football, period.

What selfish answer? The only people being selfish in any of this are the people who want a return to normalcy before we're ready. All I was expressing is a concern about whether or not the season can be properly carried out. I also disagree that players just want to play. I do think every player and probably every person in this country want things to return to normal. However, I think the players and any mature adult understand that health and safety are important. Also the players don't make the rules anyway. At the end of the days its just sports. If the powers at be ultimately decide we have to forego the season for health concerns then so be it. Its SELFISH to feel otherwise.

(06-21-2020 10:26 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 08:43 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 07:18 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 10:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 09:54 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Or better how about some act as if they have just a little bit of brains. Just a little. Let's remember .. your actions affect others. We don't get to act in a vacuum here ... albeit some half-wits like to it argue that way.

A half-wit can figure out who is really at risk here. If you're in a nursing home, don't go.

If you're over 65, or having underlying conditions, don't go.

If you have vulnerable people living with you, don't go.

Everyone else can take the typical precautions and go. It's not rocket science. And people with no authority telling other people what to do is dumb.

Too bad the real world isn't as simple as the one you live in. People don't exist and people to live in the nice neat little categories you described. As for someone telling you what to do - grow up. Take responsibility and do the right thing on your own.

Actually, the real world I live in is that simple.

Learn the facts, man. Covid19 isn't like radiation after a nuclear blast. You CAN protect yourself without ANY action from others.

If you're at high risk, protect yourself.

If you're not at high risk, go about your life.

If you're so stupid that you think the answer is for the government to lock down perfectly healthy people as some sort of deterrent to protect you from the boogeyman... I don't know what to tell you.

Oh I don't doubt the black and white world you live in is that simple. Yet people still need to work oh, and some of those people have comorbidities that put them at great risk. Some of those same people need to grocery shop. And I bet some of those people need to make doctor's visits. Some life has to go on even in the presence of people who refuse to wear masks in indoor crowded places.

And then this virus isn't that simple - there are pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic people out there. how many asymptomatic and contagious? Well they've pinned the number down between 10 and 70%. And how long are you pre-symptomatic is still highly contagious? It looks like between 5 and 14 days. All those people who do not know they are contagious. And more we really don't know how this affects us long-term -although you seem to - at first this was a respiratory disease, then it became a respiratory and vascular disease, and now it seems to have the potential to affect every organ in the body. What kind of long-term disabilities like this cause? You don't know the answer to this and neither do I. You don't know how contagious is and neither do I. You don't know all the avenues through which this virus might be spread. So it's just not that simple is it? The 'you mind your business and I'll mind mine' doesn't get to work here. I wish it did but it doesn't - sadly. Your actions - whether you realize it or not - may infect somebody who infects someone else who infects someone I love.

I'm at high risk. I'm 65 and I smoked for 45 years. Not looking for a lecture on smoking but if I get this virus, I'm a dead man.

Having said that, I'm all in on us getting back to work. Suicide levels are way up. Unemployment is out of control. People are extremely depressed. Look at all the **** going on right now with the riots. Ya think the lockdown hasn't contributed to this behavior? We're sitting on a powder keg ready to explode.

Everybody on the planet earth understands the risks of trying to go back to a normal life right now. Wear a g'damn mask everyone and stop the spread of this virus. It's that simple.

All these stupid commercials about "we're all in this together" is bull****. We're all at each others throats is what it should say.

Nobody is forcing people my age to go to the grocery store. I take all necessary precautions and I go to the store. It's my choice. It's my risk. It's my freedom to choose.

(06-22-2020 07:42 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 06:35 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 05:11 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Don't see how actually playing a season is going to work if you're constantly putting guys into quarantine as they test positive throughout the year. Presumably those athletes being quarantined won't be practicing. Thats a nightmare for any coaching staff as they try to set depth charts and develop players. I think the chances of us having the season this year is getting slimmer by the minute. However, I don't see why they wouldn't just be able to play football in the spring, so I do think we ultimately get the season off just probably not this calendar year.

How is this different than players getting the flu during the season, and not practicing until they get better. This isn't the NFL where you have a limited roster and you may only have a 2nd string qb. Most college football teams have upwards of 100 players, and some freshmen or sophomores who normally wouldn't play this season but would love to get the opportunity to play on saturday.

Its also a sport that if you lose once you may have no shot at a national title. Lets say Auburn-Bama meet in the Iron Bowl with the Division title on the line and the starting QB for one of the teams tests positive. Is that kid going to have to be benched? If so, then there's just no point in playing the season.

There are teams and regions that have very few cases and some have no cases of the virus. I'm sure they are preparing to play the season. Why cancel everyone's season because of what's happening on the campus at LSU or Houston?

Many athletic departments and even universities cannot survive without the revenue that is generated by college football. You want to ruin the lives of many athletes and businesses over something that may or may not happen. That's selfish.

(06-23-2020 12:36 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 07:42 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 06:35 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 05:11 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Don't see how actually playing a season is going to work if you're constantly putting guys into quarantine as they test positive throughout the year. Presumably those athletes being quarantined won't be practicing. Thats a nightmare for any coaching staff as they try to set depth charts and develop players. I think the chances of us having the season this year is getting slimmer by the minute. However, I don't see why they wouldn't just be able to play football in the spring, so I do think we ultimately get the season off just probably not this calendar year.

How is this different than players getting the flu during the season, and not practicing until they get better. This isn't the NFL where you have a limited roster and you may only have a 2nd string qb. Most college football teams have upwards of 100 players, and some freshmen or sophomores who normally wouldn't play this season but would love to get the opportunity to play on saturday.

Its also a sport that if you lose once you may have no shot at a national title. Lets say Auburn-Bama meet in the Iron Bowl with the Division title on the line and the starting QB for one of the teams tests positive. Is that kid going to have to be benched? If so, then there's just no point in playing the season.

There are teams and regions that have very few cases and some have no cases of the virus. I'm sure they are preparing to play the season. Why cancel everyone's season because of what's happening on the campus at LSU or Houston?

Many athletic departments and even universities cannot survive without the revenue that is generated by college football. You want to ruin the lives of many athletes and businesses over something that may or may not happen. That's selfish.

A lot to unpack here. First off the majority of athletic departments operate in the red even with football revenue and many more only marginally turn a profit because they're subsidized with student fees. If we aren't playing football we're not playing any sports so most athletic departments operational costs will be next to nothing this year. What school is going under if football isn't played this year? Seriously name one.

Again though if you go back and read what I actually wrote you'd see I wasn't advocating for them to cancel the season. Rather I was simply saying I don't see it happening this fall. I also noted that I believe if push comes to shove we could just move it to the spring. No college athletes life is going to be ruined if they miss a season. Why? Because they're amateur athletes. They don't get paid anyway (maybe they should but thats a different debate). Regardless of whether we have sports or not their scholarships are going to be honored and they'll be able to work on their degrees. The athletes are going to be fine.

If the powers at be judge it to be safe enough to play this fall then I'm all for it, so long as its done right. But if at the end of the day they decide its too big a risk, then as a mature adult I can live with that because I value human life over sports. Now I don't know how you've managed to twist that into me having a selfish desire to ruin athletes lives and blah blah but none of the concerns I raised are remotely selfish. I'm not sure you even know what that word means. So here you go.

self·ish /adjective: (of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure

That more accurately describes someone who would want to see the season played despite the health risks to the players and coaching staffs. Thats you, not me. And I can respect that because I too am a sports guy. I follow multiple pro and college teams as well as individual sports, religiously. All year 24/7. But I don't respect you trying to mask your selfish intentions by claiming that youre concerned for the athletes and blah blah blah, while you falsely call me selfish and try and pass off bogus claims about universities going under if we don't play football this fall. You aren't concerned for the greater good. You don't give a **** about the athletes. You're just a dude that selfishly wants to watch football this fall regardless of the risk to the players, coaches, and team personnel. Own it.

Final Score Prediction:

Covid 19
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I'm starting to think that this Covid thing was nothing more than a P5 conspiracy to finally distance themselves from the the rest of us. I'm even more concerned that my Pirates are going to have even more cuts thanks to the financial damage done by Staton and Compher and now Covid.

All of this hysteria in the media about new cases is just BS. What is never tracked in the media is recovery. And for those heathy individuals, regardless of age, the recovery rate is about 99.97% without hospitalization. Therefore the more we quarantine & social distance, the longer this virus will plague our society. Don't know the symptoms of most of the FB players who are now quarantined, but specifically those at AL, while testing positive, HAVE NO SYMPTOMS! How is that any different than a cold or the flu, yet we don't shut down the economy for the flu or colds. But then the hysterical say but they can expose others except that if those others are heathy it actually benefits society. And those who are not healthy or have underlying conditions know who they are, whether they are vunerable & should take the necessary precautions to avoid exposure. Under the current course of gov intervention, we now have greatly increase suicide, increased drug overdoses & anarchy. And large cities like Chicago are seeing even higher murder rates. All of this caused by the current "new normal". Time for real leadership to take place.

(06-23-2020 09:09 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  All of this hysteria in the media about new cases is just BS. What is never tracked in the media is recovery. And for those heathy individuals, regardless of age, the recovery rate is about 99.97% without hospitalization. Therefore the more we quarantine & social distance, the longer this virus will plague our society. Don't know the symptoms of most of the FB players who are now quarantined, but specifically those at AL, while testing positive, HAVE NO SYMPTOMS! How is that any different than a cold or the flu, yet we don't shut down the economy for the flu or colds. But then the hysterical say but they can expose others except that if those others are heathy it actually benefits society. And those who are not healthy or have underlying conditions know who they are, whether they are vunerable & should take the necessary precautions to avoid exposure. Under the current course of gov intervention, we now have greatly increase suicide, increased drug overdoses & anarchy. And large cities like Chicago are seeing even higher murder rates. All of this caused by the current "new normal". Time for real leadership to take place.

That's all fine and good, but whether there is a football season depends on infection rates. Not death rates, not symptomatic vs asymptomatic rates. If a player catches it, they sit. If enough sit, no football.

The death rate for driving a motor vehicle is something like 1 in 100 million, yet the vast majority of us are wearing seat belts. MOST of us are wearing them more because we'll get a ticket than because we're afraid of dying.

Ticket = No football season. If you don't wear your GD seat belt and ruin this for me....

(06-23-2020 03:17 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 12:36 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 07:42 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 06:35 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 05:11 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Don't see how actually playing a season is going to work if you're constantly putting guys into quarantine as they test positive throughout the year. Presumably those athletes being quarantined won't be practicing. Thats a nightmare for any coaching staff as they try to set depth charts and develop players. I think the chances of us having the season this year is getting slimmer by the minute. However, I don't see why they wouldn't just be able to play football in the spring, so I do think we ultimately get the season off just probably not this calendar year.

How is this different than players getting the flu during the season, and not practicing until they get better. This isn't the NFL where you have a limited roster and you may only have a 2nd string qb. Most college football teams have upwards of 100 players, and some freshmen or sophomores who normally wouldn't play this season but would love to get the opportunity to play on saturday.

Its also a sport that if you lose once you may have no shot at a national title. Lets say Auburn-Bama meet in the Iron Bowl with the Division title on the line and the starting QB for one of the teams tests positive. Is that kid going to have to be benched? If so, then there's just no point in playing the season.

There are teams and regions that have very few cases and some have no cases of the virus. I'm sure they are preparing to play the season. Why cancel everyone's season because of what's happening on the campus at LSU or Houston?

Many athletic departments and even universities cannot survive without the revenue that is generated by college football. You want to ruin the lives of many athletes and businesses over something that may or may not happen. That's selfish.

A lot to unpack here. First off the majority of athletic departments operate in the red even with football revenue and many more only marginally turn a profit because they're subsidized with student fees. If we aren't playing football we're not playing any sports so most athletic departments operational costs will be next to nothing this year. What school is going under if football isn't played this year? Seriously name one.

Again though if you go back and read what I actually wrote you'd see I wasn't advocating for them to cancel the season. Rather I was simply saying I don't see it happening this fall. I also noted that I believe if push comes to shove we could just move it to the spring. No college athletes life is going to be ruined if they miss a season. Why? Because they're amateur athletes. They don't get paid anyway (maybe they should but thats a different debate). Regardless of whether we have sports or not their scholarships are going to be honored and they'll be able to work on their degrees. The athletes are going to be fine.

If the powers at be judge it to be safe enough to play this fall then I'm all for it, so long as its done right. But if at the end of the day they decide its too big a risk, then as a mature adult I can live with that because I value human life over sports. Now I don't know how you've managed to twist that into me having a selfish desire to ruin athletes lives and blah blah but none of the concerns I raised are remotely selfish. I'm not sure you even know what that word means. So here you go.

self·ish /adjective: (of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure

That more accurately describes someone who would want to see the season played despite the health risks to the players and coaching staffs. Thats you, not me. And I can respect that because I too am a sports guy. I follow multiple pro and college teams as well as individual sports, religiously. All year 24/7. But I don't respect you trying to mask your selfish intentions by claiming that youre concerned for the athletes and blah blah blah, while you falsely call me selfish and try and pass off bogus claims about universities going under if we don't play football this fall. You aren't concerned for the greater good. You don't give a **** about the athletes. You're just a dude that selfishly wants to watch football this fall regardless of the risk to the players, coaches, and team personnel. Own it.

A LOT of D3 schools will go under...I work for one. I work at a school of 1200 kids roughly and 35% are athletes. If I'm a college football player at this school and there is no football season..why would I spend the money to go to a private D3 school when I can just go to a state school or do some online schooling and still get a degree for much much cheaper? Right or wrong, that is the common thought among the D3 world from both athletes and employees. It will put a lot of D3 school under and a lot are getting very nervous because losing 35% of the students at a school this size is a death blow.

(06-23-2020 10:39 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 03:17 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 12:36 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 07:42 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 06:35 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  How is this different than players getting the flu during the season, and not practicing until they get better. This isn't the NFL where you have a limited roster and you may only have a 2nd string qb. Most college football teams have upwards of 100 players, and some freshmen or sophomores who normally wouldn't play this season but would love to get the opportunity to play on saturday.

Its also a sport that if you lose once you may have no shot at a national title. Lets say Auburn-Bama meet in the Iron Bowl with the Division title on the line and the starting QB for one of the teams tests positive. Is that kid going to have to be benched? If so, then there's just no point in playing the season.

There are teams and regions that have very few cases and some have no cases of the virus. I'm sure they are preparing to play the season. Why cancel everyone's season because of what's happening on the campus at LSU or Houston?

Many athletic departments and even universities cannot survive without the revenue that is generated by college football. You want to ruin the lives of many athletes and businesses over something that may or may not happen. That's selfish.

A lot to unpack here. First off the majority of athletic departments operate in the red even with football revenue and many more only marginally turn a profit because they're subsidized with student fees. If we aren't playing football we're not playing any sports so most athletic departments operational costs will be next to nothing this year. What school is going under if football isn't played this year? Seriously name one.

Again though if you go back and read what I actually wrote you'd see I wasn't advocating for them to cancel the season. Rather I was simply saying I don't see it happening this fall. I also noted that I believe if push comes to shove we could just move it to the spring. No college athletes life is going to be ruined if they miss a season. Why? Because they're amateur athletes. They don't get paid anyway (maybe they should but thats a different debate). Regardless of whether we have sports or not their scholarships are going to be honored and they'll be able to work on their degrees. The athletes are going to be fine.

If the powers at be judge it to be safe enough to play this fall then I'm all for it, so long as its done right. But if at the end of the day they decide its too big a risk, then as a mature adult I can live with that because I value human life over sports. Now I don't know how you've managed to twist that into me having a selfish desire to ruin athletes lives and blah blah but none of the concerns I raised are remotely selfish. I'm not sure you even know what that word means. So here you go.

self·ish /adjective: (of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure

That more accurately describes someone who would want to see the season played despite the health risks to the players and coaching staffs. Thats you, not me. And I can respect that because I too am a sports guy. I follow multiple pro and college teams as well as individual sports, religiously. All year 24/7. But I don't respect you trying to mask your selfish intentions by claiming that youre concerned for the athletes and blah blah blah, while you falsely call me selfish and try and pass off bogus claims about universities going under if we don't play football this fall. You aren't concerned for the greater good. You don't give a **** about the athletes. You're just a dude that selfishly wants to watch football this fall regardless of the risk to the players, coaches, and team personnel. Own it.

A LOT of D3 schools will go under...I work for one. I work at a school of 1200 kids roughly and 35% are athletes. If I'm a college football player at this school and there is no football season..why would I spend the money to go to a private D3 school when I can just go to a state school or do some online schooling and still get a degree for much much cheaper? Right or wrong, that is the common thought among the D3 world from both athletes and employees. It will put a lot of D3 school under and a lot are getting very nervous because losing 35% of the students at a school this size is a death blow.

I doubt it. The athletes won't lose their scholarships, and they'll probably still get 4 years of eligibility, if they're willing out to stay in college that long.

(06-23-2020 11:42 AM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 10:39 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 03:17 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 12:36 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 07:42 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Its also a sport that if you lose once you may have no shot at a national title. Lets say Auburn-Bama meet in the Iron Bowl with the Division title on the line and the starting QB for one of the teams tests positive. Is that kid going to have to be benched? If so, then there's just no point in playing the season.

There are teams and regions that have very few cases and some have no cases of the virus. I'm sure they are preparing to play the season. Why cancel everyone's season because of what's happening on the campus at LSU or Houston?

Many athletic departments and even universities cannot survive without the revenue that is generated by college football. You want to ruin the lives of many athletes and businesses over something that may or may not happen. That's selfish.

A lot to unpack here. First off the majority of athletic departments operate in the red even with football revenue and many more only marginally turn a profit because they're subsidized with student fees. If we aren't playing football we're not playing any sports so most athletic departments operational costs will be next to nothing this year. What school is going under if football isn't played this year? Seriously name one.

Again though if you go back and read what I actually wrote you'd see I wasn't advocating for them to cancel the season. Rather I was simply saying I don't see it happening this fall. I also noted that I believe if push comes to shove we could just move it to the spring. No college athletes life is going to be ruined if they miss a season. Why? Because they're amateur athletes. They don't get paid anyway (maybe they should but thats a different debate). Regardless of whether we have sports or not their scholarships are going to be honored and they'll be able to work on their degrees. The athletes are going to be fine.

If the powers at be judge it to be safe enough to play this fall then I'm all for it, so long as its done right. But if at the end of the day they decide its too big a risk, then as a mature adult I can live with that because I value human life over sports. Now I don't know how you've managed to twist that into me having a selfish desire to ruin athletes lives and blah blah but none of the concerns I raised are remotely selfish. I'm not sure you even know what that word means. So here you go.

self·ish /adjective: (of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure

That more accurately describes someone who would want to see the season played despite the health risks to the players and coaching staffs. Thats you, not me. And I can respect that because I too am a sports guy. I follow multiple pro and college teams as well as individual sports, religiously. All year 24/7. But I don't respect you trying to mask your selfish intentions by claiming that youre concerned for the athletes and blah blah blah, while you falsely call me selfish and try and pass off bogus claims about universities going under if we don't play football this fall. You aren't concerned for the greater good. You don't give a **** about the athletes. You're just a dude that selfishly wants to watch football this fall regardless of the risk to the players, coaches, and team personnel. Own it.

A LOT of D3 schools will go under...I work for one. I work at a school of 1200 kids roughly and 35% are athletes. If I'm a college football player at this school and there is no football season..why would I spend the money to go to a private D3 school when I can just go to a state school or do some online schooling and still get a degree for much much cheaper? Right or wrong, that is the common thought among the D3 world from both athletes and employees. It will put a lot of D3 school under and a lot are getting very nervous because losing 35% of the students at a school this size is a death blow.

I doubt it. The athletes won't lose their scholarships, and they'll probably still get 4 years of eligibility, if they're willing out to stay in college that long.

No athletic scholarships at the D3 level though.

I says, taint gonna be no football this yee ah

(06-22-2020 10:45 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 10:26 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 08:43 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 07:18 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(06-20-2020 10:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  A half-wit can figure out who is really at risk here. If you're in a nursing home, don't go.

If you're over 65, or having underlying conditions, don't go.

If you have vulnerable people living with you, don't go.

Everyone else can take the typical precautions and go. It's not rocket science. And people with no authority telling other people what to do is dumb.

Too bad the real world isn't as simple as the one you live in. People don't exist and people to live in the nice neat little categories you described. As for someone telling you what to do - grow up. Take responsibility and do the right thing on your own.

Actually, the real world I live in is that simple.

Learn the facts, man. Covid19 isn't like radiation after a nuclear blast. You CAN protect yourself without ANY action from others.

If you're at high risk, protect yourself.

If you're not at high risk, go about your life.

If you're so stupid that you think the answer is for the government to lock down perfectly healthy people as some sort of deterrent to protect you from the boogeyman... I don't know what to tell you.

Oh I don't doubt the black and white world you live in is that simple. Yet people still need to work oh, and some of those people have comorbidities that put them at great risk. Some of those same people need to grocery shop. And I bet some of those people need to make doctor's visits. Some life has to go on even in the presence of people who refuse to wear masks in indoor crowded places.

And then this virus isn't that simple - there are pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic people out there. how many asymptomatic and contagious? Well they've pinned the number down between 10 and 70%. And how long are you pre-symptomatic is still highly contagious? It looks like between 5 and 14 days. All those people who do not know they are contagious. And more we really don't know how this affects us long-term -although you seem to - at first this was a respiratory disease, then it became a respiratory and vascular disease, and now it seems to have the potential to affect every organ in the body. What kind of long-term disabilities like this cause? You don't know the answer to this and neither do I. You don't know how contagious is and neither do I. You don't know all the avenues through which this virus might be spread. So it's just not that simple is it? The 'you mind your business and I'll mind mine' doesn't get to work here. I wish it did but it doesn't - sadly. Your actions - whether you realize it or not - may infect somebody who infects someone else who infects someone I love.

I'm at high risk. I'm 65 and I smoked for 45 years. Not looking for a lecture on smoking but if I get this virus, I'm a dead man.

Having said that, I'm all in on us getting back to work. Suicide levels are way up. Unemployment is out of control. People are extremely depressed. Look at all the **** going on right now with the riots. Ya think the lockdown hasn't contributed to this behavior? We're sitting on a powder keg ready to explode.

Everybody on the planet earth understands the risks of trying to go back to a normal life right now. Wear a g'damn mask everyone and stop the spread of this virus. It's that simple.

All these stupid commercials about "we're all in this together" is bull****. We're all at each others throats is what it should say.

Nobody is forcing people my age to go to the grocery store. I take all necessary precautions and I go to the store. It's my choice. It's my risk. It's my freedom to choose.

That is exactly right. Period.

(06-24-2020 12:55 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(06-22-2020 10:45 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 10:26 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 08:43 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 07:18 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Too bad the real world isn't as simple as the one you live in. People don't exist and people to live in the nice neat little categories you described. As for someone telling you what to do - grow up. Take responsibility and do the right thing on your own.

Actually, the real world I live in is that simple.

Learn the facts, man. Covid19 isn't like radiation after a nuclear blast. You CAN protect yourself without ANY action from others.

If you're at high risk, protect yourself.

If you're not at high risk, go about your life.

If you're so stupid that you think the answer is for the government to lock down perfectly healthy people as some sort of deterrent to protect you from the boogeyman... I don't know what to tell you.

Oh I don't doubt the black and white world you live in is that simple. Yet people still need to work oh, and some of those people have comorbidities that put them at great risk. Some of those same people need to grocery shop. And I bet some of those people need to make doctor's visits. Some life has to go on even in the presence of people who refuse to wear masks in indoor crowded places.

And then this virus isn't that simple - there are pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic people out there. how many asymptomatic and contagious? Well they've pinned the number down between 10 and 70%. And how long are you pre-symptomatic is still highly contagious? It looks like between 5 and 14 days. All those people who do not know they are contagious. And more we really don't know how this affects us long-term -although you seem to - at first this was a respiratory disease, then it became a respiratory and vascular disease, and now it seems to have the potential to affect every organ in the body. What kind of long-term disabilities like this cause? You don't know the answer to this and neither do I. You don't know how contagious is and neither do I. You don't know all the avenues through which this virus might be spread. So it's just not that simple is it? The 'you mind your business and I'll mind mine' doesn't get to work here. I wish it did but it doesn't - sadly. Your actions - whether you realize it or not - may infect somebody who infects someone else who infects someone I love.

I'm at high risk. I'm 65 and I smoked for 45 years. Not looking for a lecture on smoking but if I get this virus, I'm a dead man.

Having said that, I'm all in on us getting back to work. Suicide levels are way up. Unemployment is out of control. People are extremely depressed. Look at all the **** going on right now with the riots. Ya think the lockdown hasn't contributed to this behavior? We're sitting on a powder keg ready to explode.

Everybody on the planet earth understands the risks of trying to go back to a normal life right now. Wear a g'damn mask everyone and stop the spread of this virus. It's that simple.

All these stupid commercials about "we're all in this together" is bull****. We're all at each others throats is what it should say.

Nobody is forcing people my age to go to the grocery store. I take all necessary precautions and I go to the store. It's my choice. It's my risk. It's my freedom to choose.

That is exactly right. Period.

The National MEDIA and to a lesser extent the Local media don't give a $HIT about me or anyone else, this is a hot topic and they are going to milk it until dust is the only thing coming from that TEET...

They have an agenda just like politicians and we are the Puppets in their show.

I was driving and listening to WFAN (Local CBS Sports station) here in NYC... The topic was MLB and whether they will or should actually have a season this year due to players concern regarding safety (COVID 19).

They pointed out that 9 Philadelphia Philies players ave just tested positive for the virus...

No games being played yet...

This is going to sound harsh, but... the players are either stupid or just don't care about protecting their meal ticket/ Pay day...

Truthfully I don't think anyone wants to play any sports, this is a public showing to protect fan Interest, they don't want to lase fans so they showing that they are interested in playing...

The players don't want to get sick and are guarantied pay to some extent... and the owners want the fan base and the money but fear potential lawsuits.


Everyone is waiting for Dr. FAUCI to convince everyone that we are all going to die if we don't listen to him.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott has tightened the restrictions for COVID-19. And halted the progression of the reopening of the state.

I just don't understand why athletes or anyone else that does not have to work in order to survive is getting sick at this stage of the game... everyone knows the rules, just follow them.

If all members of an MLB team as an example were to stay at a a single facility that was exclusively for them... how does the virus get in and infect anyone?... Unless someone breaks the rules.

We all know that athletes don't cheat and are law biding citizens of the community, so why all the concerns.