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(06-09-2020 12:11 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  Hes only coached half a season so far... Give it some time.

As a Bearcat fan, I am totally cool with this.

Give it some time... A LOT of time. I truly hope the Houston fans and administration are patient...very, very patient.

We were saying the same thing about Tubbs only a few years ago. Really hoping that's not what we've locked into.

No worries. Your retread shouldn't be as bad as Cincinnati's. Maybe it will go more like USF football or Memphis basketball's retreads.

Bad as Strong was at USF he was still competent enough to come in the first year and lead USF to a top 25 finish. And no way Dana gets cleared out in 2 years like Tubby so unless his play calling sobers up I dont see our collapse going that well.
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(06-09-2020 12:11 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  Hes only coached half a season so far... Give it some time.

As a Bearcat fan, I am totally cool with this.

Give it some time... A LOT of time. I truly hope the Houston fans and administration are patient...very, very patient.

We were saying the same thing about Tubbs only a few years ago. Really hoping that's not what we've locked into.

Look... Until this past February, I lived in Morgantown, WV. I was there for Holgs' entire run at WVU. I have always said that I don't think the Tuberville comparison is a good one. I think the better comparison is with Dave Wanstedt... he'll win his fair share...about 8 games a season...but never the "big" games. He'll recruit well (remember Larry Fitzgerald and Shady McCoy?) but looking back you'll wonder how "That Talent" couldn't get the job done. Their teams will finish consistently 3 or 4 in the Conference, and there will always be an excuse or a regret about the "snake that bit them."

That's where I honestly see Holgs as a coach. And, like Wanny, I'm cool having him at a rival team. Tell Dana he needs a 'stache.
Wanny at Pitt was perfect for me as a UC fan. Pitt was almost always a quality game on the schedule. didn't hurt the conference and yet you could always count on them to lose big games in the conference.
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This will be a fun thread to revisit in November or December.
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(06-10-2020 10:18 AM)J Coog Wrote:  This will be a fun thread to revisit in November or December.

Believe me I'd love to eat crow on this one but I just don't see a championship and anything less is a disappointment for the money we're spending.
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(06-10-2020 10:23 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  
(06-10-2020 10:18 AM)J Coog Wrote:  This will be a fun thread to revisit in November or December.

Believe me I'd love to eat crow on this one but I just don't see a championship and anything less is a disappointment for the money we're spending.

Took my nephew to SaltGrass last night to help Fertitta out a bit.
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(06-10-2020 10:18 AM)J Coog Wrote:  This will be a fun thread to revisit in November or December.

Believe me I'd love to eat crow on this one but I just don't see a championship and anything less is a disappointment for the money we're spending.

Took my nephew to SaltGrass last night to help Fertitta out a bit.

Thanks! Feel free to take your wife to the Golden Nugget and help him a lot!
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(06-06-2020 09:35 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Fake news! I refuse to believe there's 7 coaches in this league worse than Dana.

I would take those 7 coaches over him every day of the week. Dana is Tuberville 2.0.

I disagree with both you two... Dana is getting house in order right now and when he's done putting pieces in place Dana is going to anchor Houston back where it belongs, dominating the AAC and back at the big stage, the NY6 Bowl.

We were paying Applewhite half as much to win twice as many games. I'm for giving the man time to turn it around but so far he hasn't been a smart investment.

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(06-13-2020 03:58 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  
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(06-06-2020 09:35 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Fake news! I refuse to believe there's 7 coaches in this league worse than Dana.

I would take those 7 coaches over him every day of the week. Dana is Tuberville 2.0.

I disagree with both you two... Dana is getting house in order right now and when he's done putting pieces in place Dana is going to anchor Houston back where it belongs, dominating the AAC and back at the big stage, the NY6 Bowl.

We were paying Applewhite half as much to win twice as many games. I'm for giving the man time to turn it around but so far he hasn't been a smart investment.

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(06-07-2020 06:58 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  Fritz has done nothing but take losers and turn them into winners at every level. I realize the Green Wave may have somewhat plateau'd, but if it doesn't work out in New Orleans it's not because Fritz can't coach.

So did Morris and June Jones.
Still a lot of room for improvement.
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(06-13-2020 05:55 PM)DrBox Wrote:  
(06-07-2020 06:58 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  Fritz has done nothing but take losers and turn them into winners at every level. I realize the Green Wave may have somewhat plateau'd, but if it doesn't work out in New Orleans it's not because Fritz can't coach.

So did Morris and June Jones.
Still a lot of room for improvement.

Uh no

Morris took one loser to mediocrity and then got exposed at Arkansas.

June yes, but he decided to retire on the job at SMU.

When Fritz shows any of this, then I’ll agree.
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anybody that doesn't respect Fritz as a head coach is just being dumb. is he the "best" in the AAC, probably not, I think Niumatalolo has earned that title. i also dont think theres a coaching stiff in the whole league either. just another measure of separation from the G4
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(06-10-2020 08:40 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Wanny at Pitt was perfect for me as a UC fan. Pitt was almost always a quality game on the schedule. didn't hurt the conference and yet you could always count on them to lose big games in the conference.

Don’t tell RichRod that Pitt under Wanny always lost big games in the conference. He never recovered from 13-9.

Wanny had a bigger problem of losing the games he should have won than losing big games. Kelly had his number for sure, Wanny never beat him, but he won plenty of big games. We went to Tampa and beat a top 10 USF team one year.

Wanny’s biggest hurdle was working for an AD who didn’t hire him. Not only did Petersen not support Wanny. He actively undermined him by refusing to upgrade facilities and limiting his recruiting and assistant budgets more than was necessary.

When Fraud Graham was hired Petersen give him much bigger recruiting and assistant budgets than Wanny had. And funded the upgrades that he refused to do for Wanny.
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(06-13-2020 05:55 PM)DrBox Wrote:  
(06-07-2020 06:58 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  Fritz has done nothing but take losers and turn them into winners at every level. I realize the Green Wave may have somewhat plateau'd, but if it doesn't work out in New Orleans it's not because Fritz can't coach.

So did Morris and June Jones.
Still a lot of room for improvement.

His only failure has been being unable to get an average or above average AAC QB. Remember we started 5-1 last year and 26th (if counting the also receiving votes) in the country before hitting murders row on our schedule (Memphis, Navy, UCF, SMU & Temple). Losing by 3 points to Ucf and navy. I don’t think we have plateaued but we’ll know this year if we have.
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(06-06-2020 09:35 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Fake news! I refuse to believe there's 7 coaches in this league worse than Dana.

I would take those 7 coaches over him every day of the week. Dana is Tuberville 2.0.

I disagree with both you two... Dana is getting house in order right now and when he's done putting pieces in place Dana is going to anchor Houston back where it belongs, dominating the AAC and back at the big stage, the NY6 Bowl.

It's scary what he's doing on the recruiting trail. Hopefully he rights the ship.
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(06-30-2020 08:53 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
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(06-06-2020 09:35 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Fake news! I refuse to believe there's 7 coaches in this league worse than Dana.

I would take those 7 coaches over him every day of the week. Dana is Tuberville 2.0.

I disagree with both you two... Dana is getting house in order right now and when he's done putting pieces in place Dana is going to anchor Houston back where it belongs, dominating the AAC and back at the big stage, the NY6 Bowl.

It's scary what he's doing on the recruiting trail. Hopefully he rights the ship.

I would be scared if I was a Houston fan. When you plunge like that financially for a P5 coach as a G5, he better be an amazing coach. I liked the 2018 WV team he had, but I think Dana caught lightning in a bottle. There's a reason he was likely going to be fired if he didn't accept the Houston job. Hopefully he rights the ship, but I'm not seeing it from a neutral perspective
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(06-30-2020 10:16 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  
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(06-07-2020 01:46 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(06-07-2020 01:28 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 09:35 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Fake news! I refuse to believe there's 7 coaches in this league worse than Dana.

I would take those 7 coaches over him every day of the week. Dana is Tuberville 2.0.

I disagree with both you two... Dana is getting house in order right now and when he's done putting pieces in place Dana is going to anchor Houston back where it belongs, dominating the AAC and back at the big stage, the NY6 Bowl.

It's scary what he's doing on the recruiting trail. Hopefully he rights the ship.

I would be scared if I was a Houston fan. When you plunge like that financially for a P5 coach as a G5, he better be an amazing coach. I liked the 2018 WV team he had, but I think Dana caught lightning in a bottle. There's a reason he was likely going to be fired if he didn't accept the Houston job. Hopefully he rights the ship, but I'm not seeing it from a neutral perspective

He had average results at WVU. WVU might be the toughest job in the p5 though. I can understand why Houston made the hire but you're right, I wouldn't have shelled out that much unless I knew it was a sure thing. Only time will tell if he's worth the money.
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(06-30-2020 11:21 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
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(06-30-2020 08:53 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
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(06-07-2020 01:28 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  I would take those 7 coaches over him every day of the week. Dana is Tuberville 2.0.

I disagree with both you two... Dana is getting house in order right now and when he's done putting pieces in place Dana is going to anchor Houston back where it belongs, dominating the AAC and back at the big stage, the NY6 Bowl.

It's scary what he's doing on the recruiting trail. Hopefully he rights the ship.

I would be scared if I was a Houston fan. When you plunge like that financially for a P5 coach as a G5, he better be an amazing coach. I liked the 2018 WV team he had, but I think Dana caught lightning in a bottle. There's a reason he was likely going to be fired if he didn't accept the Houston job. Hopefully he rights the ship, but I'm not seeing it from a neutral perspective

He had average results at WVU. WVU might be the toughest job in the p5 though. I can understand why Houston made the hire but you're right, I wouldn't have shelled out that much unless I knew it was a sure thing. Only time will tell if he's worth the money.
I wouldn’t call WV the toughest job in the P5 at all. That definitely goes to Washington State, Oregon State, Rutgers, Kansas, BC, Iowa State, etc.
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(06-07-2020 01:46 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  I disagree with both you two... Dana is getting house in order right now and when he's done putting pieces in place Dana is going to anchor Houston back where it belongs, dominating the AAC and back at the big stage, the NY6 Bowl.

It's scary what he's doing on the recruiting trail. Hopefully he rights the ship.

I would be scared if I was a Houston fan. When you plunge like that financially for a P5 coach as a G5, he better be an amazing coach. I liked the 2018 WV team he had, but I think Dana caught lightning in a bottle. There's a reason he was likely going to be fired if he didn't accept the Houston job. Hopefully he rights the ship, but I'm not seeing it from a neutral perspective

He had average results at WVU. WVU might be the toughest job in the p5 though. I can understand why Houston made the hire but you're right, I wouldn't have shelled out that much unless I knew it was a sure thing. Only time will tell if he's worth the money.
I wouldn’t call WV the toughest job in the P5 at all. That definitely goes to Washington State, Oregon State, Rutgers, Kansas, BC, Iowa State, etc.

Fair enough. But it was definitely easier in the Big East than the Big 12.
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(06-30-2020 11:33 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
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(06-07-2020 01:46 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  I disagree with both you two... Dana is getting house in order right now and when he's done putting pieces in place Dana is going to anchor Houston back where it belongs, dominating the AAC and back at the big stage, the NY6 Bowl.

It's scary what he's doing on the recruiting trail. Hopefully he rights the ship.

I would be scared if I was a Houston fan. When you plunge like that financially for a P5 coach as a G5, he better be an amazing coach. I liked the 2018 WV team he had, but I think Dana caught lightning in a bottle. There's a reason he was likely going to be fired if he didn't accept the Houston job. Hopefully he rights the ship, but I'm not seeing it from a neutral perspective

He had average results at WVU. WVU might be the toughest job in the p5 though. I can understand why Houston made the hire but you're right, I wouldn't have shelled out that much unless I knew it was a sure thing. Only time will tell if he's worth the money.
I wouldn’t call WV the toughest job in the P5 at all. That definitely goes to Washington State, Oregon State, Rutgers, Kansas, BC, Iowa State, etc.


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(07-01-2020 11:00 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  
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(06-30-2020 11:21 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
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(06-30-2020 08:53 PM)Crazier Wrote:  It's scary what he's doing on the recruiting trail. Hopefully he rights the ship.

I would be scared if I was a Houston fan. When you plunge like that financially for a P5 coach as a G5, he better be an amazing coach. I liked the 2018 WV team he had, but I think Dana caught lightning in a bottle. There's a reason he was likely going to be fired if he didn't accept the Houston job. Hopefully he rights the ship, but I'm not seeing it from a neutral perspective

He had average results at WVU. WVU might be the toughest job in the p5 though. I can understand why Houston made the hire but you're right, I wouldn't have shelled out that much unless I knew it was a sure thing. Only time will tell if he's worth the money.
I wouldn’t call WV the toughest job in the P5 at all. That definitely goes to Washington State, Oregon State, Rutgers, Kansas, BC, Iowa State, etc.


Vandy....hands down.


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