(06-06-2020 12:18 PM)SumItUp Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 11:37 AM)Rube Dali Wrote:  It's all a misfire! They wanted to drop the dynamite on Oklahoma Wesleyan!

That was the plan and then right before it happened, they realized that Oklahoma Wesleyan is an NAIA organization and had to scramble for to make up a plan B.

I imagine it is a shot over the bow of Oklahoma State for Gundy publicly challenging their recommendations on distancing, when to resume practice, and on and on. So they nail them for a basketball violation to punish OSU for not muzzling Gundy.

That's the way the bastards work. And Emmert fits the bill. Under Emmert L.S.U. found ways to funnel favors to recruits via the state hiring agency. The coach there at the time has successfully, IMO, followed that format ever since. It works particularly well in a state where the vast majority of state legislators graduated from and are alumni and donors of their schools football program.

The reason I so despise the NCAA is because we have a FOX running the henhouse. Only now his agenda has changed. He doesn't do what's best for the school who employs him but for the bureaucracy for which he works. This means overlooking the sins of the main draws of the NCAA basketball tournament, hammering anyone who grows in strength to challenge their brands, and hammering football programs that don't tow the NCAA agenda.

Now go back and look at the penalties handed out, and specifically those that weren't handed out and tell me I'm wrong!

(06-06-2020 12:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-06-2020 12:18 PM)SumItUp Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 11:37 AM)Rube Dali Wrote:  It's all a misfire! They wanted to drop the dynamite on Oklahoma Wesleyan!

That was the plan and then right before it happened, they realized that Oklahoma Wesleyan is an NAIA organization and had to scramble for to make up a plan B.

I imagine it is a shot over the bow of Oklahoma State for Gundy publicly challenging their recommendations on distancing, when to resume practice, and on and on. So they nail them for a basketball violation to punish OSU for not muzzling Gundy.

That's the way the bastards work. And Emmert fits the bill. Under Emmert L.S.U. found ways to funnel favors to recruits via the state hiring agency. The coach there at the time has successfully, IMO, followed that format ever since. It works particularly well in a state where the vast majority of state legislators graduated from and are alumni and donors of their schools football program.

The reason I so despise the NCAA is because we have a FOX running the henhouse. Only now his agenda has changed. He doesn't do what's best for the school who employs him but for the bureaucracy for which he works. This means overlooking the sins of the main draws of the NCAA basketball tournament, hammering anyone who grows in strength to challenge their brands, and hammering football programs that don't tow the NCAA agenda.

Now go back and look at the penalties handed out, and specifically those that weren't handed out and tell me I'm wrong!

If Kansas gets nailed to the wall then maybe the NCAA means business. But I agree with Jr. The NCAA is really petty with its penalties.

TCU had an assistant involved with this mess. He took money to guide a player that was at another school. When pressed on this matter by TCU, he finally admitted it and was fired. Since no TCU player was involved, and we took action immediately upon finding out about this, we will probably get the death penalty. Basketball has not been our strong suite so we are expendable in the eyes of the NCAA. Kansas will get penalized one cheerleader.

(06-06-2020 04:20 PM)Big Frog II Wrote:  TCU had an assistant involved with this mess. He took money to guide a player that was at another school. When pressed on this matter by TCU, he finally admitted it and was fired. Since no TCU player was involved, and we took action immediately upon finding out about this, we will probably get the death penalty. Basketball has not been our strong suite so we are expendable in the eyes of the NCAA. Kansas will get penalized one cheerleader.

You left out the modifier. Kansas will lose their ugliest guy cheerleader. Auburn's in the same basket. One ex NBA player of ours was caught doing the same, was dismissed, but given Pearl's former issues I'd say we have no chance in hell because we aren't supposed to be good in hoops and embarrassed Kansas, North Carolina and beat Kentucky in the same tourney 2 years ago. I smiled when it happened and looked at my wife and said well they are sure to get hammered for something. We've stepped on too many blue bloods toes all at once and the NCAA can't have a football first school doing that!

(06-05-2020 11:16 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Love this organization. Can't wait to wear my NCAA shirt to games this season.

NCAA t-shirts are not meant to be worn... they should be left in the men's room in case you run out of toilet paper (or, if you prefer, to save your t.p. for later).

(06-07-2020 01:51 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 11:16 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Love this organization. Can't wait to wear my NCAA shirt to games this season.

NCAA t-shirts are not meant to be worn... they should be left in the men's room in case you run out of toilet paper (or, if you prefer, to save your t.p. for later).

You could wear Todd Gurley's NCAA shirt...

Defund the NCAA!

(06-08-2020 09:30 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Defund the NCAA!

That means a breakaway and the establishment of a new college basketball tournament that actually pays the teams that are in it.

(06-08-2020 10:07 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 09:30 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Defund the NCAA!

That means a breakaway and the establishment of a new college basketball tournament that actually pays the teams that are in it.

Yes sir, but it also needs to have some restraints on budgets. If not, it won't last and will evolve into 20-32 teams playing AAA NFL and NBA

(06-05-2020 11:35 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Oklahoma State was hit with a postseason ban for an assistant coach who committed ONE Level I violation. Kansas is facing FIVE Level I violations.

Everybody involved is about to get hit HARD.

I was going to say that Haskell Indian Nations would get the death penalty but they're NAIA.

(06-05-2020 01:35 PM)utpotts Wrote:  Kent State has to take the fall for one of these schools.

Don't forget UAB, they must pay for what Oklahoma State has done.

(06-07-2020 02:21 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(06-07-2020 01:51 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 11:16 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Love this organization. Can't wait to wear my NCAA shirt to games this season.

NCAA t-shirts are not meant to be worn... they should be left in the men's room in case you run out of toilet paper (or, if you prefer, to save your t.p. for later).

You could wear Todd Gurley's NCAA shirt...

I would change it to:

Not
Concerned
About
Academics

(06-08-2020 11:45 AM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(06-07-2020 02:21 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(06-07-2020 01:51 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 11:16 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Love this organization. Can't wait to wear my NCAA shirt to games this season.

NCAA t-shirts are not meant to be worn... they should be left in the men's room in case you run out of toilet paper (or, if you prefer, to save your t.p. for later).

You could wear Todd Gurley's NCAA shirt...

I would change it to:

Not
Concerned
About
Academics

Sorry, that has already been copyrighted by UNC

(06-08-2020 10:22 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 10:07 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 09:30 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Defund the NCAA!

That means a breakaway and the establishment of a new college basketball tournament that actually pays the teams that are in it.

Yes sir, but it also needs to have some restraints on budgets. If not, it won't last and will evolve into 20-32 teams playing AAA NFL and NBA

Revenue sharing will continue at the conference level.

(06-05-2020 11:16 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Love this organization. Can't wait to wear my NCAA shirt to games this season.

This one?

(06-08-2020 09:30 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Defund the NCAA!

That would be an example of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Yes, the NCAA has become corrupted, but the non-P5 part of the NCAA is much less affected.

Perhaps it would be sufficient to purge the NCAA of the corruption associated with the P5.

(06-08-2020 07:05 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 09:30 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Defund the NCAA!

That would be an example of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Yes, the NCAA has become corrupted, but the non-P5 part of the NCAA is much less affected.

Perhaps it would be sufficient to purge the NCAA of the corruption associated with the P5.

It's actually more akin to tossing the bathwater out with the sewage, the sewage being the NCAA and the bathwater the peed in kiddie pool that lumps a gozillion schools together with arbitrary and porous boundaries to define them. The NCAA crapped that bathwater a long time ago and we all need a better place to bath or shower.

(06-08-2020 10:22 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 10:07 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 09:30 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Defund the NCAA!

That means a breakaway and the establishment of a new college basketball tournament that actually pays the teams that are in it.

Yes sir, but it also needs to have some restraints on budgets. If not, it won't last and will evolve into 20-32 teams playing AAA NFL and NBA

Changing the big time FB and Basketball operations into for-profit sports businesses that pay a franchise fee to the University that they are associated with would put restraints on some of the excesses in the budgets ... as not-for-profit organizations, the only way they can get a benefit from revenue is to come up with something they want to do that they can justify as an operating cost.

For their spending, they don't have to worry whether the benefit is worth the cost, since under the current system the alternative is the dollar of revenue being lost to the University general fund. So spending $1 for $0.25 benefit makes a perverted form of financial sense for the athletic department. Change to a for-profit system, spending $1 for $0.25 benefit no longer makes financial sense.

If the BTSU (Big Time Sports University^TM) wants to put the franchise fee into funding NCAA sports, that'd be up to them.

(06-08-2020 08:17 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 10:22 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 10:07 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 09:30 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Defund the NCAA!

That means a breakaway and the establishment of a new college basketball tournament that actually pays the teams that are in it.

Yes sir, but it also needs to have some restraints on budgets. If not, it won't last and will evolve into 20-32 teams playing AAA NFL and NBA

Changing the big time FB and Basketball operations into for-profit sports businesses that pay a franchise fee to the University that they are associated with would put restraints on some of the excesses in the budgets ... as not-for-profit organizations, the only way they can get a benefit from revenue is to come up with something they want to do that they can justify as an operating cost. Otherwise under the current system too big a share of the revenue in the Big Time schools would be lost to the University general fund.

If the BTSU (Big Time Sports University^TM) wants to put the franchise fee into funding NCAA sports, that'd be up to them.

They should get a tax write off for making contributions back to the general fund of the schools they represent. Then the school can use it where needed whether that is funding non revenue sports, Title IX, or boosting research. As long as the Semi-professional Big Time Sports Universities have a set % they can donate to avoid unnecessary taxes, or even to get a new kind of tax break, then this could be a winner all the way around.