Temple should join its geographic Mates in the Big East West Division:
Big East East: Providence, Seton Hall, Nova, St Johns, Georgetown, UCONN
Big East West: Temple, Xaiver, Butler, Marquette, DePaul, Creighton
Indy in FB with Indy games vs Army, Buffalo, UCONN, UMASS, Liberty, ND, BYU, Rutgers, BC, Cuse, Penn St, Pitt

Good luck getting Nova on board with that and I don't see the rest of the conference feeling like it is worth fighting Nova to get Temple.

Wouldn’t be a bad idea if the AAC lost Cincy, Houston, UCF, and Memphis. Otherwise this makes no sense.

AAC would be a true southern conference:
AAC East: Cincinnati, Navy, ECU, UCF, USF
AAC West: Memphis, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Tulane
Everyone plays everyone plus a CCG like the 10 team Big 12

(06-02-2020 11:53 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  Wouldn’t be a bad idea if the AAC lost Cincy, Houston, UCF, and Memphis. Otherwise this makes no sense.

Travel

(06-02-2020 11:53 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  Good luck getting Nova on board with that and I don't see the rest of the conference feeling like it is worth fighting Nova to get Temple.

It’s all about bus rides these days

Even if the AAC doesn't hemorrhage teams, Temple still makes sense.

(06-02-2020 11:58 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 11:53 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  Wouldn’t be a bad idea if the AAC lost Cincy, Houston, UCF, and Memphis. Otherwise this makes no sense.

Travel

Temple would be making less money as part of the BE than the AAC. They haven’t stated travel is a problem, why would they take less money to travel less, especially when that would mean likely abandoning their strong football program?

(06-03-2020 12:21 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 11:58 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 11:53 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  Wouldn’t be a bad idea if the AAC lost Cincy, Houston, UCF, and Memphis. Otherwise this makes no sense.

Travel

Temple would be making less money as part of the BE than the AAC. They haven’t stated travel is a problem, why would they take less money to travel less, especially when that would mean likely abandoning their strong football program?

Um I don’t care about temple. I care about ECU and the AAC. I want them out

(06-03-2020 12:25 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-03-2020 12:21 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 11:58 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 11:53 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  Wouldn’t be a bad idea if the AAC lost Cincy, Houston, UCF, and Memphis. Otherwise this makes no sense.

Travel

Temple would be making less money as part of the BE than the AAC. They haven’t stated travel is a problem, why would they take less money to travel less, especially when that would mean likely abandoning their strong football program?

Um I don’t care about temple. I care about ECU and the AAC. I want them out

If given a choice between Temple and ECU, I’m sure 90% of AAC fans would choose Temple.

(06-03-2020 12:39 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-03-2020 12:25 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-03-2020 12:21 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 11:58 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 11:53 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  Wouldn’t be a bad idea if the AAC lost Cincy, Houston, UCF, and Memphis. Otherwise this makes no sense.

Travel

Temple would be making less money as part of the BE than the AAC. They haven’t stated travel is a problem, why would they take less money to travel less, especially when that would mean likely abandoning their strong football program?

Um I don’t care about temple. I care about ECU and the AAC. I want them out

If given a choice between Temple and ECU, I’m sure 90% of AAC fans would choose Temple.

You wanna travel to Philadelphia?? ?????

(06-02-2020 11:56 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  AAC would be a true southern conference:
AAC East: Cincinnati, Navy, ECU, UCF, USF
AAC West: Memphis, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Tulane
Everyone plays everyone plus a CCG like the 10 team Big 12

Some ECU fans just love them some CUSA. Sure you dont want Red, White, and Blue pods? If you want to ride buses you guys should be playing ODU and Charlotte. Maybe you should try talking the ECU administration into going back to CUSA.

(06-02-2020 11:56 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  AAC would be a true southern conference:
AAC East: Cincinnati, Navy, ECU, UCF, USF
AAC West: Memphis, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Tulane
Everyone plays everyone plus a CCG like the 10 team Big 12

Cincinnati (Ohio) is about as midwestern as it can be, and is only "southern" in the sense of being from southern Ohio

Navy is located in Maryland, which is considered a middle atlantic, not a southern State.

Tulsa and Wichita State are located in Oklahoma and Kansas, which are Great Plains States, not southern States.

SMU (Dallas) is located in the Great Plains region, according to most sources:

https://www.google.com/search?q=great+pl...83&bih=591

The others on the list above are southern schools.

(06-02-2020 11:53 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  Wouldn’t be a bad idea if the AAC lost Cincy, Houston, UCF, and Memphis. Otherwise this makes no sense.

If the AAC were to lose those four schools, one option might be to merge with the MWC.

AAC/MWC merger (3 divisions): Coast to Coast Conference (CCC)

East/Central: Temple, USF, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa, ECU, & Navy (FB) / Wichita (BB)

Mountain: Colorado St., Air Force, Utah State, UNLV, New Mexico, Wyoming

Pacific: Boise St., SDSU, Fresno State, San Jose State, Nevada, Hawaii (FB) / Gonzaga (BB)

Strong FB schools: Navy, SDSU, Boise St., Hawaii, Air Force, & SMU

Strong BB schools: Gonzaga, Wichita St., SDSU, Utah St., & Temple

.

Provisos:

1) Each team would play 3 cross-division FB games. With 6 Mountain teams, 9 cross-division games would be vs. East/Central teams, and 9 vs. Pacific teams. The East/Central and Pacific teams would each have only 1.5 games per season with teams from the opposite coast, and half of these (i.e., only 0.75 games per season, on average) would involve flying to the opposite coast.

2) Each team would play 10 conference games within their divisions and only 6 cross-divisional games. The East/Central and Pacific teams would each have only 3 games per season with teams from the opposite coast, and half of these (i.e., only 1.5 games per season, on average) would involve flying to the opposite coast.

3) All other sports would shift to a regional model, which Commissioner Aresco has sketched out, which would be scheduled independently by each school, with a post-season conference tournament.

4) There would be the option to cut travel costs in basketball further by playing many of the 18 bicoastal (East/Central vs. Pacific) games in quadruple-header-format tournament settings, located in Dallas, New Orleans, Wichita, or Denver.

If a AAC/MWC merger wouldn't be feasible, the next best option would probably be to rebuild the AAC with schools such as:

UAB
SUNY-Buffalo
ODU or WKU
Marshall (FB) & Dayton (BB)
App State (FB) & VCU (BB)


East: Temple, USF, ECU, SUNY-Buffalo, ODU or WKU, & App St. (FB) / VCU (BB)

West: SMU, Tulane, Tulsa, UAB, Navy (FB) / Wichita (BB), & Marshall (FB) / Dayton

Actually, that would be an interesting conference, and it might still be near the top of the G5.

Strong FB programs: Navy, App State, Marshall, USF, Temple, UAB, WKU

Strong BB programs: Wichita State, VCU, Buffalo, Temple, WKU-or-ODU

(06-02-2020 11:41 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Temple should join its geographic Mates in the Big East West Division:
Big East East: Providence, Seton Hall, Nova, St Johns, Georgetown, UCONN
Big East West: Temple, Xaiver, Butler, Marquette, DePaul, Creighton
Indy in FB with Indy games vs Army, Buffalo, UCONN, UMASS, Liberty, ND, BYU, Rutgers, BC, Cuse, Penn St, Pitt

No one does divisions in basketball and im sure the Big East isn't interested.

Temple or not, the Big East doesn't need to move to divisions. That being said, Villanova still blocks Temple from being a full member in the Big East.

(06-03-2020 06:33 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Temple or not, the Big East doesn't need to move to divisions. That being said, Villanova still blocks Temple from being a full member in the Big East.

Aye, but while Villanova might still block Temple from full membership in the Big East, Temple wouldn't have any interest at all in accepting an offer to join the Big East at this point.

Even if the AAC were to lose 4 of its best teams, the two scenarios I've sketched out above would be much better than rejoining the Big East and having to park their FB program in a G4 conference or go on as an independent.

The very strange and bizarre obsession with Temple by one particular poster continues.........

(06-03-2020 12:25 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-03-2020 12:21 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 11:58 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 11:53 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  Wouldn’t be a bad idea if the AAC lost Cincy, Houston, UCF, and Memphis. Otherwise this makes no sense.

Travel

Temple would be making less money as part of the BE than the AAC. They haven’t stated travel is a problem, why would they take less money to travel less, especially when that would mean likely abandoning their strong football program?

Um I don’t care about temple. I care about ECU and the AAC. I want them out

Better idea: ECU to the Big South