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How close was the Great West to reaching the auto-bid goals?
After seeing the discussion about the Great West Conference in another thread, I was wondering.

How close was the Great West Conference to reaching the goal of an auto-bid? Besides years served, what other requirements did they have to check off in order to earn an auto-bid in any sports?

I know the conference originally started as a FCS football only conference at the start and later morphed into an all sports conference. I'm assuming that the years as a FB only league would not count towards the actual league lifespan in the eyes of the NCAA. Or would I be wrong?
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RE: How close was the Great West to reaching the auto-bid goals?
Pipe dream. Never had a realistic shot.
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RE: How close was the Great West to reaching the auto-bid goals?
I thought they were a few years off of the Auto bid. Though I think they collapsed before the 8 year requirement was added. I think at most maybe 3 years together as a all sports conference. (At most) Though they were far from stable.
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RE: How close was the Great West to reaching the auto-bid goals?
The GWC played 4 seasons as a multi-sport conference.
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RE: How close was the Great West to reaching the auto-bid goals?
Hat tip to Blogging the Bracket, who had the old continuity rules linked here

Quote:31.3.4.5 Additional Requirements, Men’s Basketball. The member conference must include seven core institutions. For the purposes of this legislation, core refers to an institution that has been an active member of Division I the eight preceding years.
Further, the continuity-of-membership requirement shall be met only if a minimum of six core institutions have conducted conference competition together in Division I the preceding five years in men’s basketball.
There shall be no exception to the five-year waiting period. Any new member added to a member conference that satisfies these requirements shall be immediately eligible to represent the conference as the automatic qualifier.

We're talking about the basketball autobid. The Great West may have qualified for an FCS autobid, or may have been close, I don't know.

The Great West multisport conference started play in 2009-10 with UND, USD, NJIT, Houston Baptist, UTPA, Utah Valley and Chicago State. (The Great West operated the year before, but didn't have regular season conference competition, and didn't have Chicago State, so didn't have 7 schools.)

How many of those 7 schools had 8 years in Division I?
UND and USD joined Division I in 2008
NJIT upgraded starting in 2006(?)
Houston Baptist in 2007.
UTPA and Chicago State were Division I for a long time.
Utah Valley joined in 2003, so they would start counting in 2011.

So the Great West would have had to hold together until 2016 to have everybody count as "core Division I members" and get an autobid.

For 2011-12, they lost South Dakota to the Summit. That dropped them below 7 teams, but the other 6 got their 2nd year of continuity.

For 2012-13, they lost North Dakota, so they were down to 5 members, nobody had continuity, and three schools with 8 years in Division I.
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RE: How close was the Great West to reaching the auto-bid goals?
Short version: The GWFC/GWC was one school away from getting an FCS autobid during the majority of its run. It was nowhere even close to getting a multisport autobid.

I think you could say there were three phases of the GW(F)C.

Phase 1. The first phase was a football-only conference of NDSU, SDSU, UNC, C-P, UCD & SUU. This version of the conference was on the cusp of getting an autobid before UNC left for the Big Sky. This phase ended when NDSU & SDSU left for the MVFC. During this phase, NDSU, SDSU and others formed a group of United <insert sport here> Conferences; a group of scheduling alliances built to help the several independent DI schools at the time.

Phase 2. The GWFC backfills with USD & UND, and absorbs the various United conferences to form something resembling a multisport conference. It's mostly a hodgepodge of miscellaneous schools just trying to get by. This phase ends with SUU, UND, USD, C-P & UCD getting full or football-only invites to the Big Sky.

Phase 3: The final version of the GW(F)C was a non-football group of schools just trying to get by as a scheduling alliance. This phase only lasted one year before it all fell apart.
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