(05-29-2020 03:58 PM)TheAppalachianState Wrote:  Do you think maybe the realignment would damage la tech more and that’s why he is against it?

Tech is certainly happy in CUSA and I think merging with the Sun Belt would be a big step back for us. I genuinely think there hasn't been talk about this among the CUSA ADs and presidents though and I think the ULL (AD or president?) guy bringing it up probably netted our AD some angry calls so he felt the need to squash the rumors and take a jab at ULL for starting stuff.

(05-29-2020 04:05 PM)NinerAlum18 Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 03:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Go watch the NO Bowl a couple years ago. ULL was playing Nevada I think and Mack Brown kept on calling them Monroe (completely unintentional) The other commentator stop Mack Brown and said You mean Lafayette?

Mack Brown is a good dude, met him several times since he took over UNC-CH as he's come by our HS on recruiting visits. Dude can sell a program like very few. Gotta believe it was an honest mistake on his part there.

Why is it a law that no one can the U of Louisiana?

It was part of the deal for the name change. ULL actually changed their name to U of Louisiana in the 80s I think and had to change the name back because people felt like they were trying to assert themselves as the flagship of the UL system. The ULS instituted a rule that no one could change their name to UL? unless more than one school did the same. ULL convinced ULM they would support their membership in the Sun Belt if ULM went along with the name change. They both changed their name and ULL quickly started forgetting about the second L. They got some push back and claimed they weren't trying to present themselves as the University of Louisiana or UL but they certainly were. In the end the ULS rules didn't have any sort of penalty or punishment outlined for what they were trying to do.

(05-29-2020 04:35 PM)DETLTU Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 03:58 PM)TheAppalachianState Wrote:  Do you think maybe the realignment would damage la tech more and that’s why he is against it?

Tech is certainly happy in CUSA and I think merging with the Sun Belt would be a big step back for us. I genuinely think there hasn't been talk about this among the CUSA ADs and presidents though and I think the ULL (AD or president?) guy bringing it up probably netted our AD some angry calls so he felt the need to squash the rumors and take a jab at ULL for starting stuff.

(05-29-2020 04:05 PM)NinerAlum18 Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 03:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Go watch the NO Bowl a couple years ago. ULL was playing Nevada I think and Mack Brown kept on calling them Monroe (completely unintentional) The other commentator stop Mack Brown and said You mean Lafayette?

Mack Brown is a good dude, met him several times since he took over UNC-CH as he's come by our HS on recruiting visits. Dude can sell a program like very few. Gotta believe it was an honest mistake on his part there.

Why is it a law that no one can the U of Louisiana?

It was part of the deal for the name change. ULL actually changed their name to U of Louisiana in the 80s I think and had to change the name back because people felt like they were trying to assert themselves as the flagship of the UL system. The ULS instituted a rule that no one could change their name to UL? unless more than one school did the same. ULL convinced ULM they would support their membership in the Sun Belt if ULM went along with the name change. They both changed their name and ULL quickly started forgetting about the second L. They got some push back and claimed they weren't trying to present themselves as the University of Louisiana or UL but they certainly were. In the end the ULS rules didn't have any sort of penalty or punishment outlined for what they were trying to do.

So, not a law? Unless the ULS system makes laws in Louisiana?

(05-29-2020 04:32 PM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 01:37 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 01:33 PM)kb325 Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 12:47 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 12:42 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  They are now known as Louisiana no matter how much you all cry about it.

Not true. They are University of Louisiana @ Lafayette according to state law and to be addressed as such. You really don't like to argue facts do you? You just spout hyperbole to see who will bite. Classy.

We call them ULL as well BUT they are the University of Louisiana...Let's look at it this way...the University of Missouri is called just that in the SEC world BUT their official name is UM at Columbia...same goes for Wisconsin being UW at Madison and Illinois officially being U of I at Champagne...my guess is most of the big universities are U of _ at XXXXXX...

The law states otherwise.

I normally refer to them as LA-La, but what law and why is it not enforced?

I can't find a link to the actual legislation back in 95, but this is the UL system guidelines
http://www.ulsystem.net/assets/docs/sear...licies.pdf


Some key points:
III. University and System Name Guidelines All institutions within the University of Louisiana System are to comply with the following precepts and guidelines set forth to govern and coordinate the use of the University of Louisiana name and logo:
A. As previously stated, there is no main campus for the University of Louisiana System. Any designation of or reference to a member institution as “flagship,” “lead,” “main,” or other similar descriptor is prohibited.
C. The use of the two-letter University of Louisiana abbreviation, “UL,” and/or the phrase “U of L” are prohibited by the university or any of its affiliated organizations (alumni associations, development foundations, bookstores, etc.). For academic, public relations, athletic, as well as other purposes not specified, the use of the University of Louisiana abbreviation must always include the abbreviation for the municipal location of the institution.
D. All uses of the name “University of Louisiana” must be followed by the word “at” and the institution’s geographic location. No typographic variations within the name are permitted. The word “at” must be no less than 50% and the geographic location must not exceed 100% nor be less than 80% of the University of Louisiana name. Any institutional use of “University of Louisiana” without the “at” and geographic location is prohibited.

There is nothing spelled out to enforce the above items and certainly nothing preventing other people from calling them whatever they want.

ULM was duped in the whole thing, but really they got a name upgrade too so it is what it is.

(05-29-2020 04:42 PM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 04:35 PM)DETLTU Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 03:58 PM)TheAppalachianState Wrote:  Do you think maybe the realignment would damage la tech more and that’s why he is against it?

Tech is certainly happy in CUSA and I think merging with the Sun Belt would be a big step back for us. I genuinely think there hasn't been talk about this among the CUSA ADs and presidents though and I think the ULL (AD or president?) guy bringing it up probably netted our AD some angry calls so he felt the need to squash the rumors and take a jab at ULL for starting stuff.

(05-29-2020 04:05 PM)NinerAlum18 Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 03:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Go watch the NO Bowl a couple years ago. ULL was playing Nevada I think and Mack Brown kept on calling them Monroe (completely unintentional) The other commentator stop Mack Brown and said You mean Lafayette?

Mack Brown is a good dude, met him several times since he took over UNC-CH as he's come by our HS on recruiting visits. Dude can sell a program like very few. Gotta believe it was an honest mistake on his part there.

Why is it a law that no one can the U of Louisiana?

It was part of the deal for the name change. ULL actually changed their name to U of Louisiana in the 80s I think and had to change the name back because people felt like they were trying to assert themselves as the flagship of the UL system. The ULS instituted a rule that no one could change their name to UL? unless more than one school did the same. ULL convinced ULM they would support their membership in the Sun Belt if ULM went along with the name change. They both changed their name and ULL quickly started forgetting about the second L. They got some push back and claimed they weren't trying to present themselves as the University of Louisiana or UL but they certainly were. In the end the ULS rules didn't have any sort of penalty or punishment outlined for what they were trying to do.

So, not a law? Unless the ULS system makes laws in Louisiana?

Actually the law was the legislation passed in 95 to change their names.

(05-29-2020 04:35 PM)DETLTU Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 03:58 PM)TheAppalachianState Wrote:  Do you think maybe the realignment would damage la tech more and that’s why he is against it?

Tech is certainly happy in CUSA and I think merging with the Sun Belt would be a big step back for us. I genuinely think there hasn't been talk about this among the CUSA ADs and presidents though and I think the ULL (AD or president?) guy bringing it up probably netted our AD some angry calls so he felt the need to squash the rumors and take a jab at ULL for starting stuff.

(05-29-2020 04:05 PM)NinerAlum18 Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 03:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Go watch the NO Bowl a couple years ago. ULL was playing Nevada I think and Mack Brown kept on calling them Monroe (completely unintentional) The other commentator stop Mack Brown and said You mean Lafayette?

Mack Brown is a good dude, met him several times since he took over UNC-CH as he's come by our HS on recruiting visits. Dude can sell a program like very few. Gotta believe it was an honest mistake on his part there.

Why is it a law that no one can the U of Louisiana?

It was part of the deal for the name change. ULL actually changed their name to U of Louisiana in the 80s I think and had to change the name back because people felt like they were trying to assert themselves as the flagship of the UL system. The ULS instituted a rule that no one could change their name to UL? unless more than one school did the same. ULL convinced ULM they would support their membership in the Sun Belt if ULM went along with the name change. They both changed their name and ULL quickly started forgetting about the second L. They got some push back and claimed they weren't trying to present themselves as the University of Louisiana or UL but they certainly were. In the end the ULS rules didn't have any sort of penalty or punishment outlined for what they were trying to do.

Does ULL operate in athletics as "Louisiana" similar to us going by "Charlotte"? I feel like in athletics I've seen them referred as just Louisiana in the last several years. Apologize if we're beating a dead horse, I'm just not up to date with the name issues of ULL/ULM/etc

DETLTU
[/quote] It was part of the deal for the name change. ULL actually changed their name to U of Louisiana in the 80s I think and had to change the name back because people felt like they were trying to assert themselves as the flagship of the UL system. The ULS instituted a rule that no one could change their name to UL? unless more than one school did the same. ULL convinced ULM they would support their membership in the Sun Belt if ULM went along with the name change. They both changed their name and ULL quickly started forgetting about the second L. They got some push back and claimed they weren't trying to present themselves as the University of Louisiana or UL but they certainly were. In the end the ULS rules didn't have any sort of penalty or punishment outlined for what they were trying to do.
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>>> I remember back at this time (late 90's) when they were making this move, the ULX'ers (Lafayette and Monroe) were having their local Papers start printing stories about how the Sunbelt Football Conference was going to form with them and Tech included - over and over again. The only thing was all the suggestions were coming from them and we (Tech) were silent with no comments.
Then on a Friday afternoon before a long break, the AD simply puts out a statement "We are not joining the Sunbelt for Football." I don't remember if we already had indications we were joining the WAC but he was basically quashing the hype being generated in other places.

And that was fun because they started writing about "Why is Tech joining the WAC and playing all over the west?" It was about seperation. And I did enjoy being in the WAC against Fresno, Boise, Nevada and some of the others while they were just mad at us for being different.

And we are still different.

La La calling itself Louisiana was just a branding thing...no need to get those La Tech drawers in a twist..really...it pretty much failed

(05-29-2020 06:24 PM)kb325 Wrote:  La La calling itself Louisiana was just a branding thing...no need to get those La Tech drawers in a twist..really...it pretty much failed

I actually grew up in Lafayette (and loved living there) with USL/ULL trying to go through it's rebranding from the 80's thru the 90's. But I went and joined the Yankees in Ruston. I always thought they could have acheived more if they just did the USM thing and made it University of Southern Louisiana and not waste years and resources with just a name. And they were trying to become a 'flagship' - uhhh no.

And you are 'fighting' sports writers who adore LSU also feel that all the other schools in Louisiana should just compete amongst themselves and not even leave the state. I'm talking about one who was like LaTech, ULL, ULM, Northwesten St, McNeese, Southeastern...just regulated to mandated mediocrity.

I would not mind the occasional Football game...even with ULM - BUT they have to come to OUR place 1st because we were at their stadium the last time we played. That was one of the other hitches - they want the gate because they know their fans won't show up.

(05-28-2020 10:15 PM)MUsince96 Wrote:  His comment about moving up to a level like C-USA.

Then leave. Nobody's holding Marshall hostage.

(05-29-2020 10:39 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  Awful lot of scumbelt posters on an irrelevant cusa board.

HAHA! I was thinking the same thing!

(05-29-2020 10:07 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 09:33 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 09:32 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  Can we close the 50 merger / realignment threads now?

LEt them linger a little longer

Why, because some redneck CUSA AD (LaTech) thinks his conference is actually relevant? He's a freakin' clown.

There's nothing quite like being called a "Redneck" by some douche from South Alabama.

(05-29-2020 11:57 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  No objective person can claim La Tech is any better than Louisiana.

Oh puleeze. If you want ULL that bad, the MOVE your arses over to the Sunbelt pronto, because they're not getting invited to CUSA. Again, NOBODY is holding Marshall hostage in CUSA. You know where the door is.

(05-29-2020 04:22 PM)DETLTU Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 03:45 PM)kb325 Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 03:04 PM)DETLTU Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 03:02 PM)kb325 Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 01:37 PM)deb025 Wrote:  The law states otherwise.

What law??? ULL is officially called (by law if that's how you'd put it) the University of Louisiana Lafayette or at Lafayette...but that doesn't stop the school wanting to be called U of Louisiana...they are most definitely the flagship university in that school system...just like my examples of Missouri, Wisconsin and Illinois...that doesn't stop the Sun Belt from listing them as UL...nobody is changing the "by law" name of the University...maybe the state troopers should arrest someone for breaking the law...here...watch this...they are the University of Louisiana or Louisiana...I live in St. Louis...send a state trooper on up to cite me for breaking the law...lol...but I understand your hate...

You know they're not though right?

Then which school is...Is LSU now part of that system...

There is none. ULL isn't anything special in the UL system. They changed their name to give people that impression. They tried in the 80s (?) and got shot down, then got ULM to change their name so ULL could change theirs. When the name change happened they were specifically prohibited from claiming themselves to be the flagship of the system or calling themselves UL, Louisiana, etc. Granted there were no teeth to the prohibition so ULL wisely gamed the system. At the time I don't even think they were the biggest school in the system, but Southeastern has declined over the years.
https://www.nola.com/news/politics/artic...b24ff.html

UL has always been the largest school in the UL System. Also has the largest research budget and more than double the academic endowment of any other UL System school.

Nothing like the La Tech fans getting triggered than the majority of college sports fans now refer to Louisiana as just Louisiana.

It's actually kind of sad how insecure La Tech fans are.

Louisiana has a bigger budget than La Tech as well.

UL is the flagship.

UL - never heard of her in Virginia. But we know La Tech.

(05-29-2020 09:54 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Nothing like the La Tech fans getting triggered than the majority of college sports fans now refer to Louisiana as just Louisiana.

It's actually kind of sad how insecure La Tech fans are.

Louisiana has a bigger budget than La Tech as well.

UL is the flagship.

Bro... you ain't kidding. It's like reading elementary kid insults. It's really strange. Never seen a group of fans act like this.

Go back to your board “bro.” You’re not welcome here son. But it’s sad you’re here as a mod from the sunbelt. If you don’t care about your inferiority complex, then just return to your sunbelt board. Really, “bro,” it’s pathetic.

(05-29-2020 10:23 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 09:54 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Nothing like the La Tech fans getting triggered than the majority of college sports fans now refer to Louisiana as just Louisiana.

It's actually kind of sad how insecure La Tech fans are.

Louisiana has a bigger budget than La Tech as well.

UL is the flagship.

Bro... you ain't kidding. It's like reading elementary kid insults. It's really strange. Never seen a group of fans act like this.

What's sad is a moderator from the Sunbelt board trolling on a CUSA forum. Herdfan is a notorious troll and you're trying to add validity to his asinine posts.

(05-29-2020 03:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Go watch the NO Bowl a couple years ago. ULL was playing Nevada I think and Mack Brown kept on calling them Monroe (completely unintentional) The other commentator stop Mack Brown and said You mean Lafayette?

May be time to break out that lovely Leopard logo used numerous times when running ULL highlight packages.

Hey La Tech fans,

Which bothers you more? The fact their branding efforts have worked and people refer to them as Louisiana? Or the fact they average more fans than La Tech? Or the fact they bring in around $1 million more per year in ticket sales than La Tech? Or the fact they have a bigger budget than La Tech? Or maybe its because they bring in more money in contributions as well as rights/licensing fees?

Heck, I'm honestly wondering why Louisiana wasn't invited to CUSA. Not saying over La Tech cause I like you guys, but the more I look at Louisiana the more I wonder why they were not invited. They seem to have solid fan support.