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RE: The 2020 Realignment Wars are Over...
(06-08-2020 08:14 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(06-07-2020 04:26 PM)Texasowl Wrote:  Wake Forest had one of their best teams in a long time last year. They are loosing a lot of key players. Good time to play them beginning of the season. Hopefully, a nice upset would be great.
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(06-06-2020 11:33 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 09:43 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  2 of 3 of those schools wouldn’t accept being in a conference with any member of Cusa or SBC.
Rice of course meets all the academic requirements for any conference, but let’s face it they’ve been left far behind athletically By ga tech and duke.

And for the record, Rice does have its supporters among P5 college presidents. Rice may be the one program in CUSA or the Sunbelt that could be considered for P5. The proof is that Rice was the only school not in the AAC or MWC invited to the Big 12 expansion consideration a couple years back. Rice is also able to leverage its academics for football games against programs like Northwestern, Wake Forest, Texas, Notre Dame, and Southern Cal.

ODU is scheduled to open this season at home against Wake Forrest.


Tough year to be bringing in a new coach. Hasn't had the first practice or probably even in person meeting with the team yet. I still expect to see some improvement.

Also a tough year to have our most attractive home schedule to date seeing as the seating capacity is almost sure to be limited.

Wake Forest
Hampton
FIU
MT
UVA
UAB
Marshall
How do you have 5 home conference games? Are you sure that is correct?

EDIT: Disregard my last. You snuck UVA in there on me. Lol
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RE: The 2020 Realignment Wars are Over...
(06-08-2020 08:16 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  
(06-08-2020 08:14 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(06-07-2020 04:26 PM)Texasowl Wrote:  Wake Forest had one of their best teams in a long time last year. They are loosing a lot of key players. Good time to play them beginning of the season. Hopefully, a nice upset would be great.
(06-06-2020 03:37 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 11:33 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  And for the record, Rice does have its supporters among P5 college presidents. Rice may be the one program in CUSA or the Sunbelt that could be considered for P5. The proof is that Rice was the only school not in the AAC or MWC invited to the Big 12 expansion consideration a couple years back. Rice is also able to leverage its academics for football games against programs like Northwestern, Wake Forest, Texas, Notre Dame, and Southern Cal.

ODU is scheduled to open this season at home against Wake Forrest.


Tough year to be bringing in a new coach. Hasn't had the first practice or probably even in person meeting with the team yet. I still expect to see some improvement.

Also a tough year to have our most attractive home schedule to date seeing as the seating capacity is almost sure to be limited.

Wake Forest
Hampton
FIU
MT
UVA
UAB
Marshall
How do you have 5 home conference games? Are you sure that is correct?

EDIT: Disregard my last. You snuck UVA in there on me. Lol

LOL, didn't even go over the number of fingers you should have on one hand and couldn't get it right. I listed them in order, the UVA game is 10/24. We gave them a good scare last year in C'Ville. Would love to come away with that upset.
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RE: The 2020 Realignment Wars are Over...
(06-08-2020 08:14 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(06-07-2020 04:26 PM)Texasowl Wrote:  Wake Forest had one of their best teams in a long time last year. They are loosing a lot of key players. Good time to play them beginning of the season. Hopefully, a nice upset would be great.
(06-06-2020 03:37 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 11:33 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 09:43 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  2 of 3 of those schools wouldn’t accept being in a conference with any member of Cusa or SBC.
Rice of course meets all the academic requirements for any conference, but let’s face it they’ve been left far behind athletically By ga tech and duke.

And for the record, Rice does have its supporters among P5 college presidents. Rice may be the one program in CUSA or the Sunbelt that could be considered for P5. The proof is that Rice was the only school not in the AAC or MWC invited to the Big 12 expansion consideration a couple years back. Rice is also able to leverage its academics for football games against programs like Northwestern, Wake Forest, Texas, Notre Dame, and Southern Cal.

ODU is scheduled to open this season at home against Wake Forrest.


Tough year to be bringing in a new coach. Hasn't had the first practice or probably even in person meeting with the team yet. I still expect to see some improvement.

Also a tough year to have our most attractive home schedule to date seeing as the seating capacity is almost sure to be limited.

Wake Forest
Hampton
FIU
MT
UVA
UAB
Marshall

Win, lose, or draw .... That's pretty good for ODU to get 2 ACC teams at home this season.
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RE: The 2020 Realignment Wars are Over...
(06-06-2020 10:09 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
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(06-05-2020 07:57 PM)T2003 Wrote:  
(06-05-2020 11:53 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  This is a HUGE factor that the realignment contingent always want to ignore. If you list Troy in your realignment, I got news for you no university president wants their school aligned academically with them.

It’s somehow always fans from other academically lower tier schools mentioning this. When we played (and hosted) Duke or played other schools like GA Tech and Rice (in the bowl game) - their fans were always very respectful. It’s interesting to see how a good education can positively shape a person’s character.

Playing an OOC game and being a fellow member of a conference is different. Duke, GA Tech and Rice will never want to be in the same conference as Troy, or would accept being in the same conference.

2 of 3 of those schools wouldn’t accept being in a conference with any member of Cusa or SBC.
Rice of course meets all the academic requirements for any conference, but let’s face it they’ve been left far behind athletically By ga tech and duke. I’m not even sure that Rice administrators see any difference between F_U and Troy

Academic rankings and acceptance rates say otherwise. Point is, didn't suggest that Duke or Ga Tech would care for FAU/FIU...just saying no one wants to be dragged down academically by association. University presidents care about this. No need to get panties in a bunch.

Why do you care so much about what is said on a CUSA board?

If acceptance rate is your criterion then you need to kickout Marshall (90%), USM (98.4%) and UTEP (100%) vs Troy (88%)
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RE: The 2020 Realignment Wars are Over...
(06-08-2020 11:50 AM)T2003 Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 10:09 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 09:43 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 09:36 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(06-05-2020 07:57 PM)T2003 Wrote:  It’s somehow always fans from other academically lower tier schools mentioning this. When we played (and hosted) Duke or played other schools like GA Tech and Rice (in the bowl game) - their fans were always very respectful. It’s interesting to see how a good education can positively shape a person’s character.

Playing an OOC game and being a fellow member of a conference is different. Duke, GA Tech and Rice will never want to be in the same conference as Troy, or would accept being in the same conference.

2 of 3 of those schools wouldn’t accept being in a conference with any member of Cusa or SBC.
Rice of course meets all the academic requirements for any conference, but let’s face it they’ve been left far behind athletically By ga tech and duke. I’m not even sure that Rice administrators see any difference between F_U and Troy

Academic rankings and acceptance rates say otherwise. Point is, didn't suggest that Duke or Ga Tech would care for FAU/FIU...just saying no one wants to be dragged down academically by association. University presidents care about this. No need to get panties in a bunch.

Why do you care so much about what is said on a CUSA board?

If acceptance rate is your criterion then you need to kickout Marshall (90%), USM (98.4%) and UTEP (100%) vs Troy (88%)

No need for more...we have it represented. Thank you for your interest.
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RE: The 2020 Realignment Wars are Over...
(06-08-2020 11:50 AM)T2003 Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 10:09 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 09:43 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 09:36 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(06-05-2020 07:57 PM)T2003 Wrote:  It’s somehow always fans from other academically lower tier schools mentioning this. When we played (and hosted) Duke or played other schools like GA Tech and Rice (in the bowl game) - their fans were always very respectful. It’s interesting to see how a good education can positively shape a person’s character.

Playing an OOC game and being a fellow member of a conference is different. Duke, GA Tech and Rice will never want to be in the same conference as Troy, or would accept being in the same conference.

2 of 3 of those schools wouldn’t accept being in a conference with any member of Cusa or SBC.
Rice of course meets all the academic requirements for any conference, but let’s face it they’ve been left far behind athletically By ga tech and duke. I’m not even sure that Rice administrators see any difference between F_U and Troy

Academic rankings and acceptance rates say otherwise. Point is, didn't suggest that Duke or Ga Tech would care for FAU/FIU...just saying no one wants to be dragged down academically by association. University presidents care about this. No need to get panties in a bunch.

Why do you care so much about what is said on a CUSA board?

If acceptance rate is your criterion then you need to kickout Marshall (90%), USM (98.4%) and UTEP (100%) vs Troy (88%)

Don't worry about this guy. He has a really weird obsession with all things Troy. Can't take him seriously.
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(06-08-2020 12:41 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(06-08-2020 11:50 AM)T2003 Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 10:09 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 09:43 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 09:36 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  Playing an OOC game and being a fellow member of a conference is different. Duke, GA Tech and Rice will never want to be in the same conference as Troy, or would accept being in the same conference.

2 of 3 of those schools wouldn’t accept being in a conference with any member of Cusa or SBC.
Rice of course meets all the academic requirements for any conference, but let’s face it they’ve been left far behind athletically By ga tech and duke. I’m not even sure that Rice administrators see any difference between F_U and Troy

Academic rankings and acceptance rates say otherwise. Point is, didn't suggest that Duke or Ga Tech would care for FAU/FIU...just saying no one wants to be dragged down academically by association. University presidents care about this. No need to get panties in a bunch.

Why do you care so much about what is said on a CUSA board?

If acceptance rate is your criterion then you need to kickout Marshall (90%), USM (98.4%) and UTEP (100%) vs Troy (88%)

Don't worry about this guy. He has a really weird obsession with all things Troy. Can't take him seriously.

ZERO obsession...just want no affiliation whatsoever with Troy. Been there done that. No need to go backwards.
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(06-08-2020 12:58 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  ZERO obsession...just want no affiliation whatsoever with Troy. Been there done that. No need to go backwards.

There is an obsession. You bring up Troy randomly, a lot. Just searching your post history will show that.

And believe me, not many in the Sun Belt want to be associated with a Florida school with a name that sounds straight out of Division II. It was apparently a forward move for many of us when you left. 07-coffee3
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(06-08-2020 12:58 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(06-08-2020 12:41 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(06-08-2020 11:50 AM)T2003 Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 10:09 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 09:43 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  2 of 3 of those schools wouldn’t accept being in a conference with any member of Cusa or SBC.
Rice of course meets all the academic requirements for any conference, but let’s face it they’ve been left far behind athletically By ga tech and duke. I’m not even sure that Rice administrators see any difference between F_U and Troy

Academic rankings and acceptance rates say otherwise. Point is, didn't suggest that Duke or Ga Tech would care for FAU/FIU...just saying no one wants to be dragged down academically by association. University presidents care about this. No need to get panties in a bunch.

Why do you care so much about what is said on a CUSA board?

If acceptance rate is your criterion then you need to kickout Marshall (90%), USM (98.4%) and UTEP (100%) vs Troy (88%)

Don't worry about this guy. He has a really weird obsession with all things Troy. Can't take him seriously.

ZERO obsession...just want no affiliation whatsoever with Troy. Been there done that. No need to go backwards.

Exactly. Nobody wants anything to do with them. Of course their fan is always on here as you can see
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(06-08-2020 12:58 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  ZERO obsession...just want no affiliation whatsoever with Troy. Been there done that. No need to go backwards.

There is an obsession. You bring up Troy randomly, a lot. Just searching your post history will show that.

And believe me, not many in the Sun Belt want to be associated with a Florida school with a name that sounds straight out of Division II. It was apparently a forward move for many of us when you left. 07-coffee3

LOL, Troy is definitely a D-1 name.
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(06-08-2020 01:40 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(06-08-2020 01:18 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(06-08-2020 12:58 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  ZERO obsession...just want no affiliation whatsoever with Troy. Been there done that. No need to go backwards.

There is an obsession. You bring up Troy randomly, a lot. Just searching your post history will show that.

And believe me, not many in the Sun Belt want to be associated with a Florida school with a name that sounds straight out of Division II. It was apparently a forward move for many of us when you left. 07-coffee3

LOL, Troy is definitely a D-1 name.

I miss Troy State...but I do agree Troy is much more IVY.
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FAU Connoisseur is right. Troy is just one example of a regional university with terrible academics and horrid basketball that belong in the worst G5 conference.
There are several examples of this in the Sunbelt.
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(06-08-2020 01:55 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  FAU Connoisseur is right. Troy is just one example of a regional university with terrible academics and horrid basketball that belong in the worst G5 conference.
There are several examples of this in the Sunbelt.

Dawgxas is very smart and always a voice of reason with his comments.
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(06-08-2020 01:55 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  FAU Connoisseur is right. Troy is just one example of a regional university with terrible academics and horrid basketball that belong in the worst G5 conference.
There are several examples of this in the Sunbelt.

I'm sorry, when was the last time La Tech has been to the NCAA's in men's basketball? Oh wait, you'll probably ignore that question.

But please, go ahead and tell me how they made it to the Sweet 16... 35 years ago.
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(06-08-2020 12:41 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(06-08-2020 11:50 AM)T2003 Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 10:09 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
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(06-06-2020 09:36 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  Playing an OOC game and being a fellow member of a conference is different. Duke, GA Tech and Rice will never want to be in the same conference as Troy, or would accept being in the same conference.

2 of 3 of those schools wouldn’t accept being in a conference with any member of Cusa or SBC.
Rice of course meets all the academic requirements for any conference, but let’s face it they’ve been left far behind athletically By ga tech and duke. I’m not even sure that Rice administrators see any difference between F_U and Troy

Academic rankings and acceptance rates say otherwise. Point is, didn't suggest that Duke or Ga Tech would care for FAU/FIU...just saying no one wants to be dragged down academically by association. University presidents care about this. No need to get panties in a bunch.

Why do you care so much about what is said on a CUSA board?

If acceptance rate is your criterion then you need to kickout Marshall (90%), USM (98.4%) and UTEP (100%) vs Troy (88%)

Don't worry about this guy. He has a really weird obsession with all things Troy. Can't take him seriously.

Yes, I noticed that. This guy is totally obsessed with Troy Football, mentions us all the time. Weird guy, not sure what his problem is.
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(06-08-2020 02:20 PM)T2003 Wrote:  
(06-08-2020 12:41 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(06-08-2020 11:50 AM)T2003 Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 10:09 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(06-06-2020 09:43 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  2 of 3 of those schools wouldn’t accept being in a conference with any member of Cusa or SBC.
Rice of course meets all the academic requirements for any conference, but let’s face it they’ve been left far behind athletically By ga tech and duke. I’m not even sure that Rice administrators see any difference between F_U and Troy

Academic rankings and acceptance rates say otherwise. Point is, didn't suggest that Duke or Ga Tech would care for FAU/FIU...just saying no one wants to be dragged down academically by association. University presidents care about this. No need to get panties in a bunch.

Why do you care so much about what is said on a CUSA board?

If acceptance rate is your criterion then you need to kickout Marshall (90%), USM (98.4%) and UTEP (100%) vs Troy (88%)

Don't worry about this guy. He has a really weird obsession with all things Troy. Can't take him seriously.

Yes, I noticed that. This guy is totally obsessed with Troy Football, mentions us all the time. Weird guy, not sure what his problem is.

If a tree falls in a forest and no one is there to hear it fall does it make a sound? CUSA = Forest; if you sunbelters didn't come to the forest you wouldn't hear the tree.

I am just adamant that we do not want to be associated with Troy. No offense their are a bunch of school just like you that we don't want to be a part of either.
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(06-01-2020 09:50 AM)Ourland Wrote:  SSJ, you aren't the arbiter of the G5 realignment narrative. Realignment is far from over, and you stating it's over, as if it's fact, only shows how hopeful you are that you're right. Realignment discussions are only ramping up, not dying off. You bring a lot of unecessary grief upon yourself by acting as if you're an authority, and by constantly pimping UNT's athletics riches and burgeoning infrastructure projects. Humble yourself my man, and count your blessings, because the majority of us are struggling. Stop rubbing our noses in your university's current, but very tenuous, position as our conference's richest pauper. Take a step back, find some perspective, and adjust, because you're wearing us thin.

After a week's vacation, not much has changed on this board.

Ourland,

I like Rice and think you have been one of the fair even handed posters on this board, but you are of base on this matter. I have never claimed to the be arbiter of G5 realignment. My claim was made based on the evidence of our new bowl ties, and comments by various AD's from around C-USA. And, if you read my first post (Post #1), I stated as much. Will yahoos in this board continue to moan about realignment? Of course, but that is just talk. Like myself, none of them have any power to enact change. The title of this thread clearly states, "The 2020 Realignment Wars are Over". Although I think it is unlikely to ever officially surface, I never claimed the topic would not be officially discussed in future years.

As to my "pimping UNT riches", that must be a joke. North Texas is a G5, and we are all working with limited resources. I'm not rubbing anyone's nose in anything. I post when we move forward with projects, but I have also been on this board congratulating LA Tech on their new softball facilities, and I'm happy to see UTSA build a new athletic center. And, I think the new stadium in Birmingham is looking great too. I love seeing all C-USA programs build and grow, because those projects help improve our conference.

Some fans around here are anti C-USA, and I will continue to clash with them over their separatist opinions. I'm not trying to "wear anyone thin", but I will not back down from my personal views on this matter.
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No worries. I'm done. The conversation interest me. My thoughts were deleted giving honest opinion so my gif is in response. Carry on. You guys are doing great!
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