(05-16-2020 05:00 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(05-16-2020 04:46 PM)_x_ Wrote:  Why would you want to drop us for Rice?

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense at all. Looks like someone is trying to make some Bobcats mad.

In all honesty, does not make sense for anyone to leave the belt for C-USA. Might make a argument for T-state. C- USA is a Depreciating Asset at best. In reality it is more like a dumpster fire. Again C-USA never wanted to do anything to help the sunbelt. Let them burn

(05-16-2020 04:56 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-16-2020 04:46 PM)_x_ Wrote:  Why would you want to drop us for Rice?

I mean our fanbase isnt the greatest but definitely better than Rice.....

I have four reason for Rice:

1 Baseball, if Rice UL USM USA Troy and Coastal are in the same conference it becomes a 3 bid league

2 I love San Marcos but it takes me 7 hours to get there compared to 3.

3 UL has no true rival (sorry Arkansas State y’all are too fat to promote travel) the only schools I think we could get good travel with back and fourth are LaTech, USM, Rice or Tulane.
Tech has USM and Tulane still thinks there rivals what that school in the SEC.

4 Rice and UL are two of the only schools that were never FCS and have had football since day 1.

We've won 5 straight in baseball over Rice, with a combined 28-10 score, with 2 shutouts.

(05-16-2020 07:26 PM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  

(05-16-2020 04:56 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-16-2020 04:46 PM)_x_ Wrote:  Why would you want to drop us for Rice?

I mean our fanbase isnt the greatest but definitely better than Rice.....

I have four reason for Rice:

1 Baseball, if Rice UL USM USA Troy and Coastal are in the same conference it becomes a 3 bid league

2 I love San Marcos but it takes me 7 hours to get there compared to 3.

3 UL has no true rival (sorry Arkansas State y’all are too fat to promote travel) the only schools I think we could get good travel with back and fourth are LaTech, USM, Rice or Tulane.
Tech has USM and Tulane still thinks there rivals what that school in the SEC.

4 Rice and UL are two of the only schools that were never FCS and have had football since day 1.

For not being true rivals those are sure some spirited games.

(05-16-2020 07:48 PM)sdcritter Wrote:  

(05-16-2020 07:26 PM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  

(05-16-2020 04:56 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-16-2020 04:46 PM)_x_ Wrote:  Why would you want to drop us for Rice?

I mean our fanbase isnt the greatest but definitely better than Rice.....

I have four reason for Rice:

1 Baseball, if Rice UL USM USA Troy and Coastal are in the same conference it becomes a 3 bid league

2 I love San Marcos but it takes me 7 hours to get there compared to 3.

3 UL has no true rival (sorry Arkansas State y’all are too fat to promote travel) the only schools I think we could get good travel with back and fourth are LaTech, USM, Rice or Tulane.
Tech has USM and Tulane still thinks there rivals what that school in the SEC.

4 Rice and UL are two of the only schools that were never FCS and have had football since day 1.

For not being true rivals those are sure some spirited games.

I do agree 100% but look at the travel between fan bases I wish we played y’all on rivalry week and not ULM.

(05-16-2020 07:26 PM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  I have four reason for Rice:

1 Baseball, if Rice UL USM USA Troy and Coastal are in the same conference it becomes a 3 bid league

4 Rice and UL are two of the only schools that were never FCS and have had football since day 1.

1. If you're going to have Troy in there you've got to have GS. We've got non-losing records against 3 of the 4 SBC teams on that list and a 9-6 record against the Cajuns since joining the league.

4. That's kinda of the reason I wouldn't trade Texas State for Rice. Rice has been a bottom feeder for years in football and basketball. At least Texas State isn't content to sit by and let realignment leave them behind and has more ambitions.

(05-15-2020 09:10 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(05-15-2020 07:55 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  For people who don't want to read through the umpteenth bizillionth CUSA-SBC reorganization article, here are the proposed leagues:

East
Florida Atlantic
Western Kentucky
Marshall
Florida International
Middle Tennessee
Old Dominion
Appalachian State
Charlotte
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Troy
Coastal Carolina

West
Louisiana Tech
Southern Miss
UAB
La. Tech
Louisiana-Lafayette
Louisiana-Monroe
South Alabama
Arkansas State
North Texas
Rice
UTSA
UTEP
Texas State (I assume they're supposed to be here, the author left them off)

The problems here: UAB and Georgia State separated and Troy and South Alabama separated. I don't think you're going to come up with a 12-12 split of CUSA and SBC schools that won't leave someone unhappy.

Texas state in the west is a no brainer. South Alabama should go east.

La Tech should not count twice.

(05-16-2020 01:58 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(05-16-2020 09:31 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(05-16-2020 09:12 AM)Usajags Wrote:  This is easy to do, let TxSt go to CUSA, now they have 4 other Texas schools and LaTech to play, bring in USM, now none of us go to Texas, and USM doesn’t have to go to Texas or south Florida. Footprint is already much smaller, and CUSA can have Texas.

Ultimately, it’s the UTEPs and F_Us of the world that screw it all up because they are so far out of the footprints.

What about Little Rock and UTA?

They could transfer to the WAC. Isn't it primarily a basketball conference that's closer for them?

WAC isn't closer. Sure new member Tarleton is an hour away but outside of that its a haul.
TXST, UL ULM, LR, AState are closer than in state UT-RGV... and the previously listed plus South are all closer than NMST.

They'd be better off asking the Southland to come back or petitioning the Missouri Valley to take them both.

The only benefit to UTA to the WAC is there is a major airline hub at their doorstep and the league has teams in Phoenix, Seattle, the LA metro, SLC metro, and Chicago.

(05-16-2020 09:31 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(05-16-2020 09:12 AM)Usajags Wrote:  This is easy to do, let TxSt go to CUSA, now they have 4 other Texas schools and LaTech to play, bring in USM, now none of us go to Texas, and USM doesn’t have to go to Texas or south Florida. Footprint is already much smaller, and CUSA can have Texas.

Ultimately, it’s the UTEPs and F_Us of the world that screw it all up because they are so far out of the footprints.

What about Little Rock and UTA?

Drop the non football schools. Done.

(05-16-2020 07:26 PM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  

(05-16-2020 04:56 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-16-2020 04:46 PM)_x_ Wrote:  Why would you want to drop us for Rice?

I mean our fanbase isnt the greatest but definitely better than Rice.....

I have four reason for Rice:

1 Baseball, if Rice UL USM USA Troy and Coastal are in the same conference it becomes a 3 bid league

2 I love San Marcos but it takes me 7 hours to get there compared to 3.

3 UL has no true rival (sorry Arkansas State y’all are too fat to promote travel) the only schools I think we could get good travel with back and fourth are LaTech, USM, Rice or Tulane.
Tech has USM and Tulane still thinks there rivals what that school in the SEC.

4 Rice and UL are two of the only schools that were never FCS and have had football since day 1.

You are thinking of Rice baseball the way it used to be. Right now, Texas State is a better baseball program and I don't think it's close.

App 7 - Never was FCS 0.

What a stupid reason.

(05-16-2020 09:34 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  App 7 - Never was FCS 0.

What a stupid reason.

I love app state football what else do y’all contribute to the conference.

Go look up the standings by sport and find out. Top half of most.

Wanting a team in your conference because they were never FCS will still be a stupid reason.

(05-16-2020 10:11 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Go look up the standings by sport and find out. Top half of most.

Wanting a team in your conference because they were never FCS will still be a stupid reason.

In the last 4 of 5 years besides football y’all have finished in the bottom half of every sport

Look I don't want us to re-align at all but I could see one school...Texas St wanting to have more Texas teams to play and get back to the traditional rival in UTSA so going to CUSA could be a win for them. For everyone else even UL it's a loss IMHO.

For any real savings you would have to split the two conferences into three not two leagues and even then you have outliers like UTEP that would be a hell of a long way to get to so you would need to add travel partners for them and maybe call up some FCS teams to get each league to 10 members for FB.

Conference East
Charlotte
App
Marshall
ODU
GSU
GS
Coastal
FIU
FAU

Conference Central
WKU
MTSU
UAB
Troy
USA
USM
ULM
stAte
Little Rock (Non-FB)

Conference West
NMSU (Add to Conf)
UTEP
UTSA
N. Texas
Texas St
Rice
LA Tech
UL
UTA (Non-FB)

(05-17-2020 08:19 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  Look I don't want us to re-align at all but I could see one school...Texas St wanting to have more Texas teams to play and get back to the traditional rival in UTSA so going to CUSA could be a win for them. For everyone else even UL it's a loss IMHO.

For any real savings you would have to split the two conferences into three not two leagues and even then you have outliers like UTEP that would be a hell of a long way to get to so you would need to add travel partners for them and maybe call up some FCS teams to get each league to 10 members for FB.

Conference East
Charlotte
App
Marshall
ODU
GSU
GS
Coastal
FIU
FAU

Conference Central
WKU
MTSU
UAB
Troy
USA
USM
ULM
stAte
Little Rock (Non-FB)

Conference West
NMSU (Add to Conf)
UTEP
UTSA
N. Texas
Texas St
Rice
LA Tech
UL
UTA (Non-FB)

I agree I do prefer our current line up but this is what I wrote on another message board about breaking into three conferences

Post: #10RE: USM Beat Writer: C-USA and the Sun Belt have to realign
Personally if this is gonna happy I think we should go to three conferences and not two

South West Conference:

NMSU
UTEP
UTSA
TXST
UNT
ULM (they’ll never be in the same conference as LaTech
Arkansas State
Missouri State
UTA* No football
UALR* no football

Gulf central:

LaTech
Louisiana
Rice
USM
USA
Troy
UAB
MTSU or FAU
WKU or FIU

Atlantic East:

WKU or FAU
MTSU or FIU
Georgia state
Georgia southern
Coastal
UNCC
App state
ODU
Liberty
Marshall

(05-17-2020 09:55 AM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 08:19 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  Look I don't want us to re-align at all but I could see one school...Texas St wanting to have more Texas teams to play and get back to the traditional rival in UTSA so going to CUSA could be a win for them. For everyone else even UL it's a loss IMHO.

For any real savings you would have to split the two conferences into three not two leagues and even then you have outliers like UTEP that would be a hell of a long way to get to so you would need to add travel partners for them and maybe call up some FCS teams to get each league to 10 members for FB.

Conference East
Charlotte
App
Marshall
ODU
GSU
GS
Coastal
FIU
FAU

Conference Central
WKU
MTSU
UAB
Troy
USA
USM
ULM
stAte
Little Rock (Non-FB)

Conference West
NMSU (Add to Conf)
UTEP
UTSA
N. Texas
Texas St
Rice
LA Tech
UL
UTA (Non-FB)

I agree I do prefer our current line up but this is what I wrote on another message board about breaking into three conferences

Post: #10RE: USM Beat Writer: C-USA and the Sun Belt have to realign
Personally if this is gonna happy I think we should go to three conferences and not two

South West Conference:

NMSU
UTEP
UTSA
TXST
UNT
ULM (they’ll never be in the same conference as LaTech
Arkansas State
Missouri State
UTA* No football
UALR* no football

Gulf central:

LaTech
Louisiana
Rice
USM
USA
Troy
UAB
MTSU or FAU
WKU or FIU

Atlantic East:

WKU or FAU
MTSU or FIU
Georgia state
Georgia southern
Coastal
UNCC
App state
ODU
Liberty
Marshall

At least he is consistent with wanting Rice.

(05-17-2020 09:55 AM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 08:19 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  Look I don't want us to re-align at all but I could see one school...Texas St wanting to have more Texas teams to play and get back to the traditional rival in UTSA so going to CUSA could be a win for them. For everyone else even UL it's a loss IMHO.

For any real savings you would have to split the two conferences into three not two leagues and even then you have outliers like UTEP that would be a hell of a long way to get to so you would need to add travel partners for them and maybe call up some FCS teams to get each league to 10 members for FB.

Conference East
Charlotte
App
Marshall
ODU
GSU
GS
Coastal
FIU
FAU

Conference Central
WKU
MTSU
UAB
Troy
USA
USM
ULM
stAte
Little Rock (Non-FB)

Conference West
NMSU (Add to Conf)
UTEP
UTSA
N. Texas
Texas St
Rice
LA Tech
UL
UTA (Non-FB)

I agree I do prefer our current line up but this is what I wrote on another message board about breaking into three conferences

Post: #10RE: USM Beat Writer: C-USA and the Sun Belt have to realign
Personally if this is gonna happy I think we should go to three conferences and not two

South West Conference:

NMSU
UTEP
UTSA
TXST
UNT
ULM (they’ll never be in the same conference as LaTech
Arkansas State
Missouri State
UTA* No football
UALR* no football

Gulf central:

LaTech
Louisiana
Rice
USM
USA
Troy
UAB
MTSU or FAU
WKU or FIU

Atlantic East:

WKU or FAU
MTSU or FIU
Georgia state
Georgia southern
Coastal
UNCC
App state
ODU
Liberty
Marshall

The Fl Us will almost certainly land with the Ga Us. Liberty has zero chance of entry.

You know your heading in the right direction when Texas state fans have become somewhat indifferent about realignment. Relatively speaking. SBC fans clearly don't want them to go. We should hold on to the current arrangement as long as possible and work to create something that will fix their problem. Do nothing else.

(05-16-2020 10:16 PM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  

(05-16-2020 10:11 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Go look up the standings by sport and find out. Top half of most.

Wanting a team in your conference because they were never FCS will still be a stupid reason.

In the last 4 of 5 years besides football y’all have finished in the bottom half of every sport

Reallllllly Every sport?

You’re only talking about basketball and baseball aren’t you. If you’d like to play that game nothing really matters except football unless you win NCAA tournament games.

App has fielded top half teams in:

Women’s basketball
Volleyball
Cross Country
Tennis
Track
Soccer
Wrestling (SOCon)

Men’s basketball under Kerns should be good.

(05-17-2020 11:01 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(05-16-2020 10:16 PM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  

(05-16-2020 10:11 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Go look up the standings by sport and find out. Top half of most.

Wanting a team in your conference because they were never FCS will still be a stupid reason.

In the last 4 of 5 years besides football y’all have finished in the bottom half of every sport

Reallllllly Every sport?

You’re only talking about basketball and baseball aren’t you. If you’d like to play that game nothing really matters except football unless you win NCAA tournament games.

App has fielded top half teams in:

Women’s basketball
Volleyball
Cross Country
Tennis
Track
Soccer
Wrestling (SOCon)

Men’s basketball under Kerns should be good.

People actually watch those sports?