So I'm challenging all the true believers of COVID

Texas will most certainly be opening up soon, and I will post #s of Covid stats on here for anyone willing to follow

Right now, as of May 7, here are the stats:

Total Cases: 35,390
Total Fatalities: 973
Fatality Rate 2.7%
People tested: 427,210
People Recovered: 16,791
Currently Hospitalized: 1888

https://coronavirusintexas.org/

MY THEORY: 1) Coronavirus will shrivel up and die in the Texas Summer, 2) The media will lose their fear-mongering narrative, 3) Texas will open their economy while maintaining an incredibly low fatality rate, 4) Texas success will force more states to open up

Have a corona beer, its on me

Texas needs to lead the rebellion and bring the Southern states along.

(05-07-2020 05:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Texas needs to lead the rebellion and bring the Southern states along.

Mississippi is open....except for gyms and hair salons. Oh and schools.

(05-07-2020 05:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Texas needs to lead the rebellion and bring the Southern states along.

No self-respecting Southerner needs Texas to lead them to anything. I have a lot of close family ties to Tennessee. As has been pointed out by that wing of the family in regards to Texas, “We’re still waiting on our thank you card.”

Before of our Texas brethren get the wrong idea, a lot of that is in jest. Mostly.







I’ve been stuck at home too long........

2.7% fatality still higher than common flu, but nothing worth the mass shutdown of the economy for.

(05-07-2020 06:41 PM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  

(05-07-2020 05:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Texas needs to lead the rebellion and bring the Southern states along.

No self-respecting Southerner needs Texas to lead them to anything. I have a lot of close family ties to Tennessee. As has been pointed out by that wing of the family in regards to Texas, “We’re still waiting on our thank you card.”

Before of our Texas brethren get the wrong idea, a lot of that is in jest. Mostly.




Yeah, a lot of Tennesseans and Kentuckians died at the Alamo and Goliad so that the Texians could whip Santa Anna at San Jacinto.


I’ve been stuck at home too long........

(05-07-2020 07:35 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-07-2020 06:41 PM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  

(05-07-2020 05:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Texas needs to lead the rebellion and bring the Southern states along.

No self-respecting Southerner needs Texas to lead them to anything. I have a lot of close family ties to Tennessee. As has been pointed out by that wing of the family in regards to Texas, “We’re still waiting on our thank you card.”

Before of our Texas brethren get the wrong idea, a lot of that is in jest. Mostly.




Yeah, a lot of Tennesseans and Kentuckians died at the Alamo and Goliad so that the Texians could whip Santa Anna at San Jacinto.


I’ve been stuck at home too long........

The Republic of Texas and friends. Dont be so touchy Davy Crockett.

(05-07-2020 07:03 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  2.7% fatality still higher than common flu, but nothing worth the mass shutdown of the economy for.

It's 2.7% of those that tested positive, not who have had it as only those with bad cases will get tested especially if they have to work. Also as with most, if not all states are adding numbers to the death count that DID NOT test pisitive but rather are assumed to have had it. Nobody knows how many people have had it.

(05-07-2020 07:39 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-07-2020 07:35 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-07-2020 06:41 PM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  

(05-07-2020 05:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Texas needs to lead the rebellion and bring the Southern states along.

No self-respecting Southerner needs Texas to lead them to anything. I have a lot of close family ties to Tennessee. As has been pointed out by that wing of the family in regards to Texas, “We’re still waiting on our thank you card.”

Before of our Texas brethren get the wrong idea, a lot of that is in jest. Mostly.




Yeah, a lot of Tennesseans and Kentuckians died at the Alamo and Goliad so that the Texians could whip Santa Anna at San Jacinto.


I’ve been stuck at home too long........

The Republic of Texas and friends. Dont be so touchy Davy Crockett.

Bite your tongue. In my family, insulting his good name is a great way to get written out of the will.

(05-07-2020 07:03 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  2.7% fatality still higher than common flu, but nothing worth the mass shutdown of the economy for.

Where did you get those stats? I'm suspicious of anything put out by the experts (government). I believe the fatality rate is somewhere less than 0.001 from some doctors I've read.

In the USA, we have had 1,292,000 cases and 77,000 deaths. That's death rate is about 6% for cases, or about a 0.002% of the total population.

(05-07-2020 09:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  In the USA, we have had 1,292,000 cases and 77,000 deaths. That's death rate is about 6% for cases, or about a 0.002% of the total population.

Really makes you wonder, doesnt it.

(05-07-2020 08:23 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(05-07-2020 07:03 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  2.7% fatality still higher than common flu, but nothing worth the mass shutdown of the economy for.

Where did you get those stats? I'm suspicious of anything put out by the experts (government). I believe the fatality rate is somewhere less than 0.001 from some doctors I've read.

OP posted that's what it is in Texas now. That number high, but obviously is going to come down & wasn't worth shutting everything down.

(05-07-2020 06:41 PM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  

(05-07-2020 05:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Texas needs to lead the rebellion and bring the Southern states along.

No self-respecting Southerner needs Texas to lead them to anything. I have a lot of close family ties to Tennessee. As has been pointed out by that wing of the family in regards to Texas, “We’re still waiting on our thank you card.”

Before of our Texas brethren get the wrong idea, a lot of that is in jest. Mostly.







I’ve been stuck at home too long........

Lots of stuff in Texas named after Tennesseans who went to fight for them.


Forget the college/sports tie, but the state of Tennessee is called the Volunteer State because those good ol' boys loved to fight -- didn't matter where. Texas had a fight, Tennessee to the rescue!

Here's Tennessee's current numbers. Change since yesterday is in parentheses.

Total Cases: 14,096 (+158)
Total Fatalities: 237 (-2)
Fatality Rate: 1.7%* ()
People tested: 236,328 (+9,227)
People Recovered: 6,783 (+219)
Currently Hospitalized: 1,266 (+45)

* Based on known cases only. Unknown cases exist but are not quantified as of yet. It can be inferred based on studies by Stanford, USC, Miami,et al that the number of positives is several times higher than current know cases.

If you have covid, TN is the place you want to be. We even had 2 people raised from the dead since yesterday.

(05-07-2020 06:41 PM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  

(05-07-2020 05:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Texas needs to lead the rebellion and bring the Southern states along.

No self-respecting Southerner needs Texas to lead them to anything. I have a lot of close family ties to Tennessee. As has been pointed out by that wing of the family in regards to Texas, “We’re still waiting on our thank you card.”

Before of our Texas brethren get the wrong idea, a lot of that is in jest. Mostly.







I’ve been stuck at home too long........

If it weren't for Tennessee, Texas would be Mexico.

Swine infected 60mm people because nothing was done to avert it. Flu since 2010 has infected between 9 and 45mm people per year.... and lots is done to avert it. There is no way to know exactly how many would have been infected if not for the draconian actions taken, or how many would get flu if we hadn't been chasing it around for decades... didn't have vaccines and spend millions per year on campaigns.... but surely we all accept that 'whether it was worth it or not', these actions reduced the transmission to what we see today as about 1.3mm.

If the number of cases had been 9mm or 45mm or 60mm and the same mortality per case of about 6%.... that's a lot of deaths. Not saying it was worth it or whatever as that is a value judgement, but that is the 'value' that people were looking at.

For flu, 45mm cases resulted in only an estimated 61k deaths. For Swine, 60mm cases resulted in about 12,500 deaths. Only 1.3mm cases has given us more than both.

I think the case rate is much higher and the mortality rate somewhat less... like perhaps 10mm cases and 'only' 65,000 deaths... but that still makes it much more dangerous/deadly than either of those.... and there was no way early on to suspect that the disease could be this undetectable and also seem to lay dormant or return without additional infection. Still so much we don't know.

I'm glad we're re-opening and wish we had never closed... but I still think it wise (and respectful) to be cautious as opposed to callous.

(05-08-2020 11:59 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Swine infected 60mm people because nothing was done to avert it. Flu since 2010 has infected between 9 and 45mm people per year.... and lots is done to avert it. There is no way to know exactly how many would have been infected if not for the draconian actions taken, or how many would get flu if we hadn't been chasing it around for decades... didn't have vaccines and spend millions per year on campaigns.... but surely we all accept that 'whether it was worth it or not', these actions reduced the transmission to what we see today as about 1.3mm.

If the number of cases had been 9mm or 45mm or 60mm and the same mortality per case of about 6%.... that's a lot of deaths. Not saying it was worth it or whatever as that is a value judgement, but that is the 'value' that people were looking at.

For flu, 45mm cases resulted in only an estimated 61k deaths. For Swine, 60mm cases resulted in about 12,500 deaths. Only 1.3mm cases has given us more than both.

I think the case rate is much higher and the mortality rate somewhat less... like perhaps 10mm cases and 'only' 65,000 deaths... but that still makes it much more dangerous/deadly than either of those.... and there was no way early on to suspect that the disease could be this undetectable and also seem to lay dormant or return without additional infection. Still so much we don't know.

I'm glad we're re-opening and wish we had never closed... but I still think it wise (and respectful) to be cautious as opposed to callous.

Deaths are probably slightly over-stated. Every study shows at least 10 times the number of infected, sometimes 40 times. So we have 13 to 50 million cases and something in the vicinity of 60-70k deaths (its up to about 77k now).

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights...proponents
Opinion piece argues that the burden of proof on taking away our freedoms is on the lockdown proponents.

(05-08-2020 11:26 AM)JerryJeff Wrote:  

(05-07-2020 06:41 PM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  

(05-07-2020 05:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Texas needs to lead the rebellion and bring the Southern states along.

No self-respecting Southerner needs Texas to lead them to anything. I have a lot of close family ties to Tennessee. As has been pointed out by that wing of the family in regards to Texas, “We’re still waiting on our thank you card.”

Before of our Texas brethren get the wrong idea, a lot of that is in jest. Mostly.







I’ve been stuck at home too long........

If it weren't for Tennessee, Texas would be Mexico.

I guess you never read about the Republican Army of the North or the Republic of the Rio Grande. By the early 1800's, even before Mexico won their independence, Spain was struggling to maintain control over the far northern region of New Spain that is now Texas. Also, in the early days of Texas independence, the Republic of the Rio Grande served as a buffer. Mexico was busy trying to retake the Rio Grand valley, and couldn't be bothered with attacking Texas. Texas was never going to be part of Mexico. The Mexican American War made sure of that, not Tennessee.