(05-07-2020 12:13 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: (05-06-2020 07:56 PM)JRsec Wrote: (05-06-2020 07:50 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: taking viruses and making them mutate is what pandemic research is/does. It is intended to mimic the real world...
And giving those mutations to your enemy without a vaccine in inexcusable and indefensible. But that's the risk you take when it drives corporate profits and you are dealing with a pie in the sky egghead who benefits by benefitting the corporations instead of dealing with reasonable people that don't have an alien agenda and have a mind for the common defense.
If this indeed happened there is no justification, none. And anyone making a justification is complicit with the crime and should not be trusted.
If he gave them the viruses to work on he is guilty of over 70,000 cases of manslaughter, and I would say murder but intent would be hard to prove. It is an unconscionable act. When people die it is no longer a debate over the gray areas of corporate research done abroad. It is a black and white issue on how the security of the Free World was compromised by a person or people so oblivious to the consequences of what profits them that they imperil the innocent everywhere, including Wuhan. If he did this he is a criminal.
It could easily be a 'I was just following orders' thing.
The whole purpose of the 2004-2014 joint effort with China to improve their capabilities so that we didn't have to police the world... and to reduce the risk that they would 'let out' something they worked on, on their own... For 10 years we taught them how to do this stuff and of course, they were also doing it themselves.... this is the risk of sharing... I don't know when this was supposed to have happened or under whose political watch... and while it's easy to say 'this is why we should isolate', I'd much rather this be a disease that we knew about and might be prepared to attack than it be one that they came up with all on their own.
It's like you give your son a gun for his birthday... whose fault is it if he shoots someone with it? Would it matter if he had already bought 5 others himself and as part of your gift, you taught him gun safety?
My comment may not specifically apply... I don't know the specifics... but it's my general thought on 'sharing' deadly technology.
Hey, you don't arm your enemies with the knowledge of how to create, or with actual weapons, you don't want used against you. This is the fallacy of thinking by so many in your generation. It's just plain stupid.
As it turns out Fauci invested 3.7 million dollars in the Wuhan Lab. Does anyone think he's gong to find fault with a group he invested that much personal money in? Is this not a conflict of interest with his job here?
The levels of collusion at work here between corporate entities in this country, their spokes persons, people in positions of governmental power like Fauci and what the Chinese propaganda machine has been able to accomplish through the internet and through corporate conglomerate ownership over the MSM has been staggering. It has been an electronic Pearl Harbor. And the threat to the elections isn't coming from Russia its coming from China via Microsoft, via Disney, via Time Warner, via the New York Times, and it is prima facia evidence of the actual existence of the Deep State's targeting of all things political that don't line up with their agenda. (By the way Flynn's charges were dropped today.) Political appointments made by the Bush/Clinton/Obama white houses are all suspect.
Never before in my long life have I seen evidence of so many well placed moles. And to top it off the American public has some bright people in it and obviously you are one of them, but those bright people are naïve and clueless as to the depth and sophistication that alien propaganda now achieves. You assume globalism is in your best interest but you place material and ideas in their hands that can easily be turned against us and in this case appears to be just that.
Pearly Harbor killed 2500 people, 9/11 killed 2996 people. The release and spread of this virus will have killed over 100,000 and there are some news agencies now tracking down the list of those who are profiting from this tragedy and it is a short list of really wealthy people some of whom have a decided agenda against Trump, some with a decided agenda against our Republic, and at least one who sincerely believes we need to kill off about 1/3rd of the global population.
And you sir are foolish to believe that anything in the hands of the Communist Chinese can work to our benefit. And since Pharmaceutical Companies have been fighting Bayer's Hydroxychloroquine tooth and nail while foreign countries, the latest in Africa are reporting the success rates of its usage, it leads me to another conflict of interest story. Gilead (rendesivir) is 37% owned by the Chinese and heavily invested in by a cadre of familiar names on the left in this nation. That Big Pharma would be interested in obtaining some of the novel viruses that arise in China is not wholeheartedly a good thing either, especially when creating one that makes them insane profits is feasible. The Gilead drug can go for as much as $5000 a pop. Hydroxychloroquine goes for $20 bucks with azithromycin. That's more than enough reason to raise reasonable suspicion. So the government agencies are willing to use rendesivir which was designed for another illness in hopes of having a profitable drug to sell, but not willing to use hydroxychloroquine which is not only readily available, which has not only been used effectively in Europe, Australia, and in Africa, but to intentionally dismiss it publicly here?
We are knee deep in an attack on the sovereignty of the United States government by domestic and alien forces and the good and reasonable little corporate cucks swallow anything they are being fed and mostly out of fear of making a statement publicly that could cost them their jobs.
Every war we've ever fought has cost us. It costs lives, it costs health, it costs money, and sometimes it means we give up our normal livelihoods to prosecute it militarily. This is why those who fight are patriots. They love the concept of freedom more than they love their stuff or their lives.
I look around at our nation today and what sickens me is the number of people who aren't willing to pay the price of freedom and who cower under whatever condition (social acceptability, PC, or just plain self indulgence) to avoid the fight and it sickens me beyond belief.
Nothing pisses me off more than a lack of curiosity and questioning about why, how, who, what, and where, things are happening in ways they've never happened before. It is an abnormal lack of doubt about events. And that more than anything makes me feel as though our experiment in self directed government by a free people may be at an end.
Any lab that puts deadly viruses in the hands of a potential enemy, let alone one that killed our people in Korea, in Viet Nam, has stolen our technology, and is the base of operations for hacking that is destroying personal finances in the U.S.A. is a traitorous organization that needs to be shut down. Knowledge is a good thing, but the absolute giving away of knowledge has proven throughout history to be folly.
