Contrary to national expectations of a 15% decline in Fall 2020 enrollment, Louisiana universities are seeing increases in applications and registration as students seek to stay close to home.

"LSU reported Monday 14% more applications for the fall, of which 18% more students than usual want to transfer from other colleges. More importantly, about 6,700 of those accepted already have sent in their deposits for the fall semester. That’s 10% higher than last year at this time – meaning the incoming class already is larger than in 2019.

Tulane University says it is “on track to hit our enrollment goals for the year.”"

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0OttAzoe/...-the-trend

(04-29-2020 07:53 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Contrary to national expectations of a 15% decline in Fall 2020 enrollment, Louisiana universities are seeing increases in applications and registration as students seek to stay close to home.

"LSU reported Monday 14% more applications for the fall, of which 18% more students than usual want to transfer from other colleges. More importantly, about 6,700 of those accepted already have sent in their deposits for the fall semester. That’s 10% higher than last year at this time – meaning the incoming class already is larger than in 2019.

Tulane University says it is “on track to hit our enrollment goals for the year.”"

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0OttAzoe/...-the-trend

The top private and top public schools in Louisiana - or in any state - will never be at risk.

What is happening at the smaller LA schools? I didn't catch those numbers on my first skim through.

National Championship Teams often boost their school's applications.

All the NCAA Louisiana schools are in D1. Only Louisiana College is in D3. The rest are NAIA, NJCAA or with no sports. There are too many schools in New Orleans.

(04-29-2020 08:14 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(04-29-2020 07:53 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Contrary to national expectations of a 15% decline in Fall 2020 enrollment, Louisiana universities are seeing increases in applications and registration as students seek to stay close to home.

"LSU reported Monday 14% more applications for the fall, of which 18% more students than usual want to transfer from other colleges. More importantly, about 6,700 of those accepted already have sent in their deposits for the fall semester. That’s 10% higher than last year at this time – meaning the incoming class already is larger than in 2019.

Tulane University says it is “on track to hit our enrollment goals for the year.”"

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0OttAzoe/...-the-trend

The top private and top public schools in Louisiana - or in any state - will never be at risk.

What is happening at the smaller LA schools? I didn't catch those numbers on my first skim through.

The article says all schools in the Louisiana system, which includes ULL, ULM, LATech, and Grambling are reporting increases.

How much of this is a result in the drop in oil prices? Oil is still the big driver of the Louisiana economy and there are already people hurting in that industry. Wonder if a lot of parents are wanting to keep their kids at reasonably priced in-state school as opposed to going to out-of-state schools?

This is obviously not the case with an expensive private school like Tulane, but it could definitely be a reason for the public Louisiana schools.

(04-30-2020 02:10 PM)MAcFroggy Wrote:  How much of this is a result in the drop in oil prices? Oil is still the big driver of the Louisiana economy and there are already people hurting in that industry. Wonder if a lot of parents are wanting to keep their kids at reasonably priced in-state school as opposed to going to out-of-state schools?

This is obviously not the case with an expensive private school like Tulane, but it could definitely be a reason for the public Louisiana schools.

I think you are right - Tulane is in a different category, but for the Louisiana public schools you have to think that for economic and perceived safety reasons there is a strong blanket desire by parents to keep their kids close to home rather than have them in school across the country should another outbreak happen. Especially so for Freshmen.

Sadly, Louisiana is a "brain drain" state, meaning if a kid is talented, he is likely to leave the state, typically for Texas, because there are better educational and employment opportunities. We are a "net exporter" of college-level academic talent to other states.

Usually, that's a bad thing. But if CV-19 means that for the time being kids will have a tendency to stay closer to home, that will benefit Louisiana public schools, while harming schools in other states that rely more heavily on being attractive to out of state students.

(04-29-2020 09:15 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  All the NCAA Louisiana schools are in D1. Only Louisiana College is in D3. The rest are NAIA, NJCAA or with no sports. There are too many schools in New Orleans.

Centenary is Division III. To be fair, many people in Louisiana think of Shreveport as East Texas.

(04-30-2020 04:22 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  

(04-29-2020 09:15 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  All the NCAA Louisiana schools are in D1. Only Louisiana College is in D3. The rest are NAIA, NJCAA or with no sports. There are too many schools in New Orleans.

Centenary is Division III. To be fair, many people in Louisiana think of Shreveport as East Texas.

Wait Shreveport isn’t in Texas? Holy sh*t.

(04-30-2020 04:22 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  

(04-29-2020 09:15 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  All the NCAA Louisiana schools are in D1. Only Louisiana College is in D3. The rest are NAIA, NJCAA or with no sports. There are too many schools in New Orleans.

Centenary is Division III. To be fair, many people in Louisiana think of Shreveport as East Texas.

Shreveport is what you would think it is - a border city. It has the smell of both Louisiana and Texas, and even a slight whiff of Arkansas.

So e.g. when it comes to the NFL, it is a Cowboys town much moreso than a Saints town, not surprising given that Shreveport is more than 100 miles closer to Dallas than New Orleans. IIRC, the networks typically air the Cowboys games there over the Saints games when there is a conflict.

On the other hand, the college environment is staunchly Louisianan. Even though Baton Rouge is more than 250 miles away, Shreveport is an LSU town through-and-through.

(04-29-2020 07:53 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Contrary to national expectations of a 15% decline in Fall 2020 enrollment, Louisiana universities are seeing increases in applications and registration as students seek to stay close to home.

"LSU reported Monday 14% more applications for the fall, of which 18% more students than usual want to transfer from other colleges. More importantly, about 6,700 of those accepted already have sent in their deposits for the fall semester. That’s 10% higher than last year at this time – meaning the incoming class already is larger than in 2019.

Tulane University says it is “on track to hit our enrollment goals for the year.”"

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0OttAzoe/...-the-trend

Not necessarily good for Louisiana. Defers some necessary restructuring.

(04-30-2020 11:17 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-29-2020 07:53 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Contrary to national expectations of a 15% decline in Fall 2020 enrollment, Louisiana universities are seeing increases in applications and registration as students seek to stay close to home.

"LSU reported Monday 14% more applications for the fall, of which 18% more students than usual want to transfer from other colleges. More importantly, about 6,700 of those accepted already have sent in their deposits for the fall semester. That’s 10% higher than last year at this time – meaning the incoming class already is larger than in 2019.

Tulane University says it is “on track to hit our enrollment goals for the year.”"

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0OttAzoe/...-the-trend

Not necessarily good for Louisiana. Defers some necessary restructuring.

Man unfortunately you must not know Louisiana politics. There is no way they will restructure anything anytime soon.

(05-01-2020 07:44 AM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  

(04-30-2020 11:17 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-29-2020 07:53 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Contrary to national expectations of a 15% decline in Fall 2020 enrollment, Louisiana universities are seeing increases in applications and registration as students seek to stay close to home.

"LSU reported Monday 14% more applications for the fall, of which 18% more students than usual want to transfer from other colleges. More importantly, about 6,700 of those accepted already have sent in their deposits for the fall semester. That’s 10% higher than last year at this time – meaning the incoming class already is larger than in 2019.

Tulane University says it is “on track to hit our enrollment goals for the year.”"

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0OttAzoe/...-the-trend

Not necessarily good for Louisiana. Defers some necessary restructuring.

Man unfortunately you must not know Louisiana politics. There is no way they will restructure anything anytime soon.

Finances could finally force them.

(04-30-2020 11:17 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-29-2020 07:53 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Contrary to national expectations of a 15% decline in Fall 2020 enrollment, Louisiana universities are seeing increases in applications and registration as students seek to stay close to home.

"LSU reported Monday 14% more applications for the fall, of which 18% more students than usual want to transfer from other colleges. More importantly, about 6,700 of those accepted already have sent in their deposits for the fall semester. That’s 10% higher than last year at this time – meaning the incoming class already is larger than in 2019.

Tulane University says it is “on track to hit our enrollment goals for the year.”"

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0OttAzoe/...-the-trend

Not necessarily good for Louisiana. Defers some necessary restructuring.

People say this, but you have to bear in mind that the Louisiana university structure has weathered some extremely tough blows over the past 15 years. Hurricane Katrina battered UNO, flooded SUNO and created big disruptions throughout the state higher ed system. Then came 8 years of relentless budget cutting under the Jindal administration. No governor anywhere did more to "starve the beast" of public higher education in their states than Jindal did in Louisiana. Since 2016 Governor Edwards has stopped that, but only in the sense of "no more cuts", not in the sense of restoring funding previously cut.

Bottom line is, as a result of the above, Louisiana universities - the LSU System, the State of Louisiana System, and the Southern University System - are operating on about as lean and mean state budgets as any systems in the country, and yet they have survived. This probably means that at rock bottom they are functional for the state and its citizens.

(04-29-2020 07:53 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Contrary to national expectations of a 15% decline in Fall 2020 enrollment, Louisiana universities are seeing increases in applications and registration as students seek to stay close to home.

"LSU reported Monday 14% more applications for the fall, of which 18% more students than usual want to transfer from other colleges. More importantly, about 6,700 of those accepted already have sent in their deposits for the fall semester. That’s 10% higher than last year at this time – meaning the incoming class already is larger than in 2019.

Tulane University says it is “on track to hit our enrollment goals for the year.”"

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0OttAzoe/...-the-trend

Winning a football championship does wonders for your applications and enrollment.

(05-01-2020 08:50 AM)Big Frog II Wrote:  

(04-29-2020 07:53 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Contrary to national expectations of a 15% decline in Fall 2020 enrollment, Louisiana universities are seeing increases in applications and registration as students seek to stay close to home.

"LSU reported Monday 14% more applications for the fall, of which 18% more students than usual want to transfer from other colleges. More importantly, about 6,700 of those accepted already have sent in their deposits for the fall semester. That’s 10% higher than last year at this time – meaning the incoming class already is larger than in 2019.

Tulane University says it is “on track to hit our enrollment goals for the year.”"

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0OttAzoe/...-the-trend

Winning a football championship does wonders for your applications and enrollment.

It does, but the article says that Fall 2020 enrollment is up across the board at other Louisiana universities as well, and not all of them won football championships, LOL.

Even for LSU, the research says that a football title boosts next-year freshman enrollment by about 5%, so LSU is trending well above that too.

(05-01-2020 08:46 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-30-2020 11:17 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-29-2020 07:53 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Contrary to national expectations of a 15% decline in Fall 2020 enrollment, Louisiana universities are seeing increases in applications and registration as students seek to stay close to home.

"LSU reported Monday 14% more applications for the fall, of which 18% more students than usual want to transfer from other colleges. More importantly, about 6,700 of those accepted already have sent in their deposits for the fall semester. That’s 10% higher than last year at this time – meaning the incoming class already is larger than in 2019.

Tulane University says it is “on track to hit our enrollment goals for the year.”"

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0OttAzoe/...-the-trend

Not necessarily good for Louisiana. Defers some necessary restructuring.

People say this, but you have to bear in mind that the Louisiana university structure has weathered some extremely tough blows over the past 15 years. Hurricane Katrina battered UNO, flooded SUNO and created big disruptions throughout the state higher ed system. Then came 8 years of relentless budget cutting under the Jindal administration. No governor anywhere did more to "starve the beast" of public higher education in their states than Jindal did in Louisiana. Since 2016 Governor Edwards has stopped that, but only in the sense of "no more cuts", not in the sense of restoring funding previously cut.

Bottom line is, as a result of the above, Louisiana universities - the LSU System, the State of Louisiana System, and the Southern University System - are operating on about as lean and mean state budgets as any systems in the country, and yet they have survived. This probably means that at rock bottom they are functional for the state and its citizens.

You are going to call SU New Orleans functional????? Their graduation rate is abysmal. And they do need to look at the number of schools relative to the population in North Louisiana. They've got 6 up there (at least).

I've also got a real problem with multiple segregated universities side by side. All 4 of Louisiana's HBCUs are very close to white universities. Having one, like SU Baton Rouge is one thing, especially since LSU-BR is the state's flagship. Having 4 is a waste.

(05-01-2020 11:08 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-01-2020 08:46 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-30-2020 11:17 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-29-2020 07:53 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Contrary to national expectations of a 15% decline in Fall 2020 enrollment, Louisiana universities are seeing increases in applications and registration as students seek to stay close to home.

"LSU reported Monday 14% more applications for the fall, of which 18% more students than usual want to transfer from other colleges. More importantly, about 6,700 of those accepted already have sent in their deposits for the fall semester. That’s 10% higher than last year at this time – meaning the incoming class already is larger than in 2019.

Tulane University says it is “on track to hit our enrollment goals for the year.”"

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0OttAzoe/...-the-trend

Not necessarily good for Louisiana. Defers some necessary restructuring.

People say this, but you have to bear in mind that the Louisiana university structure has weathered some extremely tough blows over the past 15 years. Hurricane Katrina battered UNO, flooded SUNO and created big disruptions throughout the state higher ed system. Then came 8 years of relentless budget cutting under the Jindal administration. No governor anywhere did more to "starve the beast" of public higher education in their states than Jindal did in Louisiana. Since 2016 Governor Edwards has stopped that, but only in the sense of "no more cuts", not in the sense of restoring funding previously cut.

Bottom line is, as a result of the above, Louisiana universities - the LSU System, the State of Louisiana System, and the Southern University System - are operating on about as lean and mean state budgets as any systems in the country, and yet they have survived. This probably means that at rock bottom they are functional for the state and its citizens.

You are going to call SU New Orleans functional????? Their graduation rate is abysmal. And they do need to look at the number of schools relative to the population in North Louisiana. They've got 6 up there (at least).

I've also got a real problem with multiple segregated universities side by side. All 4 of Louisiana's HBCUs are very close to white universities. Having one, like SU Baton Rouge is one thing, especially since LSU-BR is the state's flagship. Having 4 is a waste.

SUNO is struggling. It will either survive or it won't, but there's no reason for it to be consciously killed. Let it struggle, and see if it survives.

As for the HBCU's generally, they exist because of the long legacy of Jim Crow segregation. It is therefore rather galling and baffling for a white-run power structure to now say "hey, we got rid of Jim Crow, so we now have these redundant HBCUs sitting near historically white universities, so let's close them down!" when that same power structure is the reason those schools were necessary to begin with.

The State enforced Jim Crow, which made HBCUs necessary. They have since grown and developed their own constituencies and legacies. Again, they aren't looking for extra benefits on top of what other state schools get (though they probably should), they just don't want to be given a deliberate kill-shot either. Let them survive if they can under the same rules as the other schools follow.