(04-28-2020 11:38 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  Here's some actually interesting death numbers yesterday in US:


Yesterday, 26,283 people died of Cancer

Yesterday, 24,641 died of Heart Disease

Yesterday, 4,300 people died of Diabetes

Yesterday, Mosquitoes killed 2,740 people

Yesterday, Snakes killed 137 people

According to the World Health Organization's (WHO) International Agency for Research on Cancer, there were 9.6 million deaths from cancer in 2018. That works out to around 26,000 deaths a day worldwide.


And, very, very importantly, Yesterday, approximately 3,000 innocent Children, including women were willfully murdered at the US abortion mills for Profit and Money in one of the biggest Corporations in the US.



Stunningly, NOT ONE Business is SHUT down for any of these deaths or cases.

Realty and Truth: #LAWA Let America Work Again, like we know it can from just a few months ago. And if anyone really cares about unnecessary deaths to innocent human beings, SHUT Down all the Abortion mills, the Real Killer in America and the World. That's the real danger.

Because you can't give somebody else these things.

Here's another LINK from the CDC (provisional death counts). This one just has numbers from 2/1 to 4/25

Covid 19 deaths - 33,513
Deaths from all causes - 706K (which is 96 percent of expected deaths)
Pneumonia deaths - 62K
Deaths with pneumonia and Covid 19 - 15K
Influenza deaths - 5800
Deaths with Influenza, pneumonia or Covid 19 - 85.5K

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

(04-29-2020 05:31 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Here's another LINK from the CDC (provisional death counts). This one just has numbers from 2/1 to 4/25

Covid 19 deaths - 33,513
Deaths from all causes - 706K (which is 96 percent of expected deaths)
Pneumonia deaths - 62K
Deaths with pneumonia and Covid 19 - 15K
Influenza deaths - 5800
Deaths with Influenza, pneumonia or Covid 19 - 85.5K

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

As I have been saying for well over a month now. You are twice more likely to die from pneumonia than Covid and we have never shut the country down for pneumonia.

(04-29-2020 06:40 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(04-29-2020 05:31 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Here's another LINK from the CDC (provisional death counts). This one just has numbers from 2/1 to 4/25

Covid 19 deaths - 33,513
Deaths from all causes - 706K (which is 96 percent of expected deaths)
Pneumonia deaths - 62K
Deaths with pneumonia and Covid 19 - 15K
Influenza deaths - 5800
Deaths with Influenza, pneumonia or Covid 19 - 85.5K

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

As I have been saying for well over a month now. You are twice more likely to die from pneumonia than Covid and we have never shut the country down for pneumonia.

That's not true - it wasn't a national shutdown but we did shut down parts of the country for the Spanish Flu pandemic. And the success rate of that shutdown actually is one of the reasons experts have recommended the shutdowns more than 100 years later.

"The exceptional severity from the 1918 pandemic influenza virus prompted implementation of community mitigation measures. With no national strategy or support from the federal government, specific measures, the timing of their initiation, and their duration varied between cities. Of 43 US cities studied, however, all used nonpharmaceutical measures during the second pandemic wave, including school closures, bans on public gatherings, and isolation or quarantine orders (19). Cities that promptly implemented nonpharmaceutical interventions experienced delayed and reduced peak death rates compared with cities that implemented interventions later (19).

https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/187...96/5068408

Look I understand everyone's frustrations with the shutdown and eagerness to get the country back to work. And many states are doing just that - and we'll quickly know if that is going to work or not. I really believe just about everywhere in the U.S. outside of the New York tri-state area, the Detroit area, and New Orleans (although things are improving there), much of the country will be back to being on a track to somewhat normalcy within a month.

And I just wish people would quote accurate sources when they post their arguments as to why they think everything is overblown.

(04-29-2020 07:03 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(04-29-2020 06:40 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(04-29-2020 05:31 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Here's another LINK from the CDC (provisional death counts). This one just has numbers from 2/1 to 4/25

Covid 19 deaths - 33,513
Deaths from all causes - 706K (which is 96 percent of expected deaths)
Pneumonia deaths - 62K
Deaths with pneumonia and Covid 19 - 15K
Influenza deaths - 5800
Deaths with Influenza, pneumonia or Covid 19 - 85.5K

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

As I have been saying for well over a month now. You are twice more likely to die from pneumonia than Covid and we have never shut the country down for pneumonia.

That's not true - it wasn't a national shutdown but we did shut down parts of the country for the Spanish Flu pandemic. And the success rate of that shutdown actually is one of the reasons experts have recommended the shutdowns more than 100 years later.

"The exceptional severity from the 1918 pandemic influenza virus prompted implementation of community mitigation measures. With no national strategy or support from the federal government, specific measures, the timing of their initiation, and their duration varied between cities. Of 43 US cities studied, however, all used nonpharmaceutical measures during the second pandemic wave, including school closures, bans on public gatherings, and isolation or quarantine orders (19). Cities that promptly implemented nonpharmaceutical interventions experienced delayed and reduced peak death rates compared with cities that implemented interventions later (19).

https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/187...96/5068408

Look I understand everyone's frustrations with the shutdown and eagerness to get the country back to work. And many states are doing just that - and we'll quickly know if that is going to work or not. I really believe just about everywhere in the U.S. outside of the New York tri-state area, the Detroit area, and New Orleans (although things are improving there), much of the country will be back to being on a track to somewhat normalcy within a month.

And I just wish people would quote accurate sources when they post their arguments as to why they think everything is overblown.

What are you talking about? The social distancing etc. is a joke if everyone goes to Lowe's and Walmart and the subways in NYC are still open. Tens of thousands of people die from pneumonia every year and it is contagious.

(04-29-2020 06:40 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(04-29-2020 05:31 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Here's another LINK from the CDC (provisional death counts). This one just has numbers from 2/1 to 4/25

Covid 19 deaths - 33,513
Deaths from all causes - 706K (which is 96 percent of expected deaths)
Pneumonia deaths - 62K
Deaths with pneumonia and Covid 19 - 15K
Influenza deaths - 5800
Deaths with Influenza, pneumonia or Covid 19 - 85.5K

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

As I have been saying for well over a month now. You are twice more likely to die from pneumonia than Covid and we have never shut the country down for pneumonia.

There is also an unnatural financial incentive to mis-classify flu/pneumonia deaths and others as covid deaths for a double payout. Covid numbers have been vastly inflated as far as deaths at least. Actual number of Covid Deaths is probably likelier to be half or less than is being reported. Scare tactics equals money and control. Leftists love big government overreach, and use panic to achieve both. Covid-19 is not anthrax or anything close to something serious like that, and actual data is so far showing repeatedly and damningly it just doesn't have as deadly effects as regular annual flus can.

Eagle - I was referring to Good Owls' posts and not yours. Once again, a link or two would be nice from him/her.

Here's another pleasant story emerging this morning from the epicenter in Brooklyn. A funeral parlor there was using 2 unrefrigerated U-Haul trucks to store dead bodies. A neighbor noticed blood leaking from one of them and police were called in. I guess technically there is a tiny chance that this has nothing to do with Covid 19. Yeah right.

(04-29-2020 11:55 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(04-29-2020 06:40 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(04-29-2020 05:31 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Here's another LINK from the CDC (provisional death counts). This one just has numbers from 2/1 to 4/25

Covid 19 deaths - 33,513
Deaths from all causes - 706K (which is 96 percent of expected deaths)
Pneumonia deaths - 62K
Deaths with pneumonia and Covid 19 - 15K
Influenza deaths - 5800
Deaths with Influenza, pneumonia or Covid 19 - 85.5K

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

As I have been saying for well over a month now. You are twice more likely to die from pneumonia than Covid and we have never shut the country down for pneumonia.

There is also an unnatural financial incentive to mis-classify flu/pneumonia deaths and others as covid deaths for a double payout. Covid numbers have been vastly inflated as far as deaths at least. Actual number of Covid Deaths is probably likelier to be half or less than is being reported. Scare tactics equals money and control. Leftists love big government overreach, and use panic to achieve both. Covid-19 is not anthrax or anything close to something serious like that, and actual data is so far showing repeatedly and damningly it just doesn't have as deadly effects as regular annual flus can.

ya dadgum spiffy....there will be books written about this latest version of ponzi.....

#dupedAgain is easily my thread title choice for muh gubbmints/msm v. sheeple

(04-29-2020 05:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  It sure would be nice to see some links backing up your claims.

The first CDC page I tried calling up said there have been between 24 and 62K flu deaths in the U.S. between 10/1 and 4/4. It's pretty telling you're going with the very low end of that estimate (and that's all it is at this point - an estimate). But you obviously have an agenda to peddle.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/pre...imates.htm

That's interesting. I don't have a screenshot to back it up, but last week I was looking at the CDC page and it gave a "approximate number" (26500 I believe) and not a range.

Another interesting bit of information that takes pulling data from different places is the total hospitalizations. 410000-740000 flu hospitalizations, but significantly less Covid 19 hospitalizations

(04-30-2020 06:45 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Eagle - I was referring to Good Owls' posts and not yours. Once again, a link or two would be nice from him/her.

Here's another pleasant story emerging this morning from the epicenter in Brooklyn. A funeral parlor there was using 2 unrefrigerated U-Haul trucks to store dead bodies. A neighbor noticed blood leaking from one of them and police were called in. I guess technically there is a tiny chance that this has nothing to do with Covid 19. Yeah right.

Sounds like a funeral parlor licensing problem to me. More people in Brooklyn are dying from something else besides Covid. And I say again, if the majority of deaths in America were occurring in say, St. Louis, MO and not NYC would NYC be shut down, much less all of America? And when does what's happening in Brooklyn have to do with South Mississippi? When Hurricanes hit here, I don't see NYC limiting the amount of water, toilet paper and eggs people can buy in grocery stores. We have been conned.