billyjack
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RE: Big East university campuses
(05-03-2020 10:58 AM)X-man Wrote: (05-03-2020 08:27 AM)bill dazzle Wrote: (05-03-2020 05:57 AM)X-man Wrote: (05-02-2020 09:16 PM)bill dazzle Wrote: (05-02-2020 12:28 PM)billyjack Wrote: Hi Bill,
I can touch on the general PC area as you make your way around Google maps.
PC has a relatively small campus, pretty much square-shaped. It's in a working-class residential area on the north side of the city, like a couple of miles from downtown Providence. To what i'm gonna call the south and west are single family houses; to the east are typical 3 story tenement houses; to the north is a mix.
Generally, the city of Providence has a downtown, and then a series of roads heading out like spokes on a bicycle wheel. Two spokes border the campus-- Admiral Street to the north and Eaton Street to the south. But parallel and just to the south of Eaton, one block, is a high-traffic 2 lane road-- Route 44, aka Smith Street-- that is packed at rush hour heading to NW suburb towns of North Providence, Johnston, and Smithfield.
On the north side is River Ave, just a cut-across road. To the east waa Huxley Ave (dog mascot named after it). Huxley was closed to traffic just in the past couple of years.
Historically, the area if heavy Irish, Italuan, and Armenian. The There is no real solid "main street" for PC... a couple if random bars are in the area, on Admiral (in Eagle Park), and on Smith. There's an excellent Italian bakery on Smith (LaSalle Bakery), amd another one named Zaccagnini's which is not far from a supermarket plaza. Mainly, the few restaurants in this area are used by locals as much as PC students. There are no chain restaurants in the general area. There's a Newport Creamery, the statewide burger-ice cream shop, on Smith Street.
The more popular college hangout area is on Thayer Street at the Brown campus, which is on the "East Side" of the city, up the hill from downtown. When on Thayer Street, i do see Friar students hanging out, along with Brown and RISD students. it's too far to walk from PC to Brown, with no good sidewalks, but i guess they drive. Sometimes after PC games, i take the kuds to eat on Thayer, and often see Friar players sitting in the next booth. After the Marquette win, Luwane Pipkins was with us at Shake Shack, and other Friars were at a smoothie bar.
The PC vampus entrance is ob the corner of River and Eaton, with the original building and current admun right there in Harkley Hall. The track is just to its north. The north side of campus also has, going clockwise, the new Ruane Center for PC hoops, Student Union and bookstore known as the Slavin Center, the lacrosse field, the gorgeous and renovated 3500 seat on-campus hockey rink (Schneider Arena) which is on the corner of Admiral and Huxley, the new soccer field and softball field (site of former baseball field). To the south side of campus are dorms, classrooms, the library, and that important academic stuff. There's a small chapel on campus, but the area church is really St Pius, on the south side of Eaton Street.
Ok, that's a quick rundown to help get you going. Safe area. As kids there were lemonade shops (Google up Mr Lemon on Hawkins Street just to the northeast), my dentist, drug store, supermarket, bakeries like i mentioned. My grandmother was born in a tenement on Hawkins in the mill area of Wanskuck. Our Italian church was St Anne's, also on Hawkins-- Google that, it loooks like something in Siena.
Also, PC gave kids of immigrants a chance for a college education, like some in my family the generation before me. Kids could live at home at go to school at PC. it's very well-respected in the community-- it's not some insular heavy-handed scholl that bullies the locals. I didnt even go there (i'm a RISD alum), but i'm a huge fan of the school going back to my childhood in the 70's.
Also, PC played on campus thru 1972. Then the Friars moved into the Dunk (back then, the Providence Civic Center), which fit 12k, the second largest arena in New England at the time, behind only the Boston Garden. Major national program, lot of NBA-ers, one of the few colleges in a major downtown arena (another groundbreaking PC idea).
Ok, enjoy. I can try to answer any other questions you have.
My take, BJack — as I ponder enjoying a veggie burger and craft beer at The Abbey on Admiral Street ...
The PC campus is compact and quite attractive. Saint Dominic's Chapel is one of the more unusual Catholic church designs I've see. The building around which Cunningham Square circles ... a masterpiece.
Yes, I definitely see the "wheel spokes element" of the city's layout. I remember this from my visit. I see the Zaccagnini's and LaSalle Bakery (across from The Abbey). The Newport Creamery is next to Milano's (likely fine pizza).
My brother and I walked Thayer (and ate there, too). A GREAT college strip (for Brown students). The Meehan Auditorium on Hope Street is a very distinctive structure.
The Saint Anne's church ... wow. Love it. Would enjoy seeing the nave. Beautiful. The Mr. Lemon buildings is classic. Tiny, quirky. The Google Streetview image shows three men (one in a suit, no less) enjoying a treat. Love it.
Atwells Avenue ... tremendous. My brother and I drove it and saw all the Italian restaurants. I called it Little Italy in my previous post but I see the name is Federal Hill.
The heart of downtown has a very quirky and historic feel. A wonderful vibe. Westminster is a studpendous street. The Cathedral of Saints Peter and Paul is gorgeous.
I actually remember as a kid watching Memphis State play PC in 1973. Providence had Ernie D. and Marvin Barnes (the late first-half injury to Bad News killed the Friars' chances). That was a fine Providence team.
Providence is a vastly underrated city. I like the rivers, the ethnic neighborhoods, all the beautiful Catholic churches, the quirky downtown, the grand state house. Love the city.
Thanks for the tips.
When I was at Brown, we used to go to Smith's Italian Restaurant on Federal Hill (Atwell's Avenue), as well as a place called Iavocco's (sp?). Are they still in existence?
I don't see (via Google Streetview) a place with that spelling but I'll defer to BJack. He knows the city well.
The Brown campus is beautiful, too. I was very impressed with it.
The Brown campus is indeed beautiful. For the last couple of years I was there (early 1970's), I lived on Waterman Street about a block from Thayer Street....perfect location, and my room rent was $35/mo. including utilities.
I'm not familiar with Smith Restaurant unfortunately The cheap homestyle porcelain-table place on Federal Hill is still there, called Angelo's. If you're coming from the Dunk, walk under the pineapple arch, and within 4 buildings on the right is Angelo's.
Providence had 2 main Italian neighborhoods (then eventuslly the later generations moved away). One was Federal Hill like you mentioned, which had its base on Atwells Ave, and got the bad reputation (seemed every non-RI person wanted to talk about Buddy Cianci, for example dimwit Imus wouldn't STFU about him, holy cow).. The other was "Charles Street", which had its base in the St Anne's Church neighborhood that i mentioned, at the corner of Charles and Branch, and actually continued up Charles to my family's original nrighborhood, touching on Smithfield Road.
The Brown area is my favorite part of the city. You guys are familiar with the gorgeous green between the historic buildings, with old wide spreading trees. X-man, sounds like you were in a perfect spot... probably at Brook Street and Waterman, right in the heart of the area. My brother went to Brown in the early 80's.
Thayer still has the Brown Bookstore, which is a block up from Waterman on Angell Street. One block from Angell was the now closed College Hill Bookstore, which i miss a lot. The Avon Cinema is still there on that same block, a lot of great indy movies. Heading east on Waterman to Wayland Square was a former diner that was great named Rufful's
When i was at RISD in the late 80's, i lived on Angell, over the crest and halfway doen the hill near Benefit Street. Xman and Bill, you might remember in the early 70's Cianci restored the rundown Benefit Street historic houses. Most of my RISD classes wete down on South Main along the river. That entire area was restored in my years at school. Cool to see it transform. in the last 10 years, RISD has actually crossed the river and has dorms and studios and its library in the old Hospital Trust Bank Building, just to the east of the giant white "skyscraper" building. I always recommend that people check out the RISD Museum on Benefit. Small with a great collection.
Meehan is Brown's hockey rink, with a nice dome overhead. Brown's basketball is in the boring Pizzatola Center. Their hoops used to be at Marvel Gym, a small fieldhouse up to the north across from Brown Stadium (football). At Marvel you could sit a couple of rows back from the benches. Early 80's as a teenager i saw Boston College play ay Marvel, sittng right behind the BC bench. Pretty cool.
Anyway, i've kinda gone on longer that necessary. Hope you guys didn't fall asleep. Lol...
(This post was last modified: 05-03-2020 11:50 AM by billyjack.)
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