Side note, but it's funny how many of GS and App State's best teams have taken losses in the series:

2007 App State
2018 App State
2019 App State

1999 Georgia Southern
2012 Georgia Southern
2015 Georgia Southern (I'd argue was a better team than 2014, but played a tougher schedule and had a better defense)

(04-19-2020 12:37 PM)_x_ Wrote:  

(04-18-2020 07:13 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  Did anyone else only become a fan because your school went FBS?

Most of my tailgating group is like that.

I was a die-hard for 7 FCS seasons though.

I have followed the team closely since 2003. It has been rough having one great season (2005) and maybe two other season that were good (2008, 2012). Aside from that, every year seems to be "well there is always next year". The first couple years in the SBC were fun too. back when there was a thought each week of "hey we could win this game" and not "can we beat the spread"

(04-20-2020 09:55 AM)slycat Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 12:37 PM)_x_ Wrote:  

(04-18-2020 07:13 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  Did anyone else only become a fan because your school went FBS?

Most of my tailgating group is like that.

I was a die-hard for 7 FCS seasons though.

I have followed the team closely since 2003. It has been rough having one great season (2005) and maybe two other season that were good (2008, 2012). Aside from that, every year seems to be "well there is always next year". The first couple years in the SBC were fun too. back when there was a thought each week of "hey we could win this game" and not "can we beat the spread"

We went 4-8 in 2012. 6-6 in 2013 and 7-5 in 2014

(04-20-2020 10:40 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(04-20-2020 09:55 AM)slycat Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 12:37 PM)_x_ Wrote:  

(04-18-2020 07:13 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  Did anyone else only become a fan because your school went FBS?

Most of my tailgating group is like that.

I was a die-hard for 7 FCS seasons though.

I have followed the team closely since 2003. It has been rough having one great season (2005) and maybe two other season that were good (2008, 2012). Aside from that, every year seems to be "well there is always next year". The first couple years in the SBC were fun too. back when there was a thought each week of "hey we could win this game" and not "can we beat the spread"

We went 4-8 in 2012. 6-6 in 2013 and 7-5 in 2014

2012 was "good" because we beat UH and it kicked FBS football off with a lot of fun. The TT sellout and atmosphere was special until the game started.

2013 and 2014 we felt like we belonged in the SBC and were taken at least somewhat seriously. Now we have become the NMSU, Idaho, and old GSU of the conference and are looked at as a win with no second thought.

Yea that UH win felt amazing. The campus had a different kind of energy that next week.

(04-18-2020 12:14 AM)CatMom Wrote:  Which team (any year) would you make a case for taking the SBC title. (It has to be an FCS level year)

For TXST I'd have to go with the 2005 team.

Want to see what other TXST people have to say and what other schools' get listed.

To this day I cannot believe y’all played for OT in the semis in 05. I truly felt sorry for your fan base.

(04-22-2020 05:54 PM)trapdrawApp Wrote:  

(04-18-2020 12:14 AM)CatMom Wrote:  Which team (any year) would you make a case for taking the SBC title. (It has to be an FCS level year)

For TXST I'd have to go with the 2005 team.

Want to see what other TXST people have to say and what other schools' get listed.

To this day I cannot believe y’all played for OT in the semis in 05. I truly felt sorry for your fan base.

I have never heard such a silent stadium after Nealy threw a pick in OT. I was a student then and the whole crowd was shocked when we took a knee with around 1:30 left and three timeouts. I thought for sure we were going to Chatty. And those games sold out in mere minutes. Really showed how strong our fan base can be with a winner.

Well, the UT Arlington Rebels of 1967 were national champions. But this was before they called it FCS. Still, we must cherish those far far away memories. Several players from that team went on to have success in the NFL

(04-24-2020 01:54 PM)wewererebels Wrote:  Well, the UT Arlington Rebels of 1967 were national champions. But this was before they called it FCS. Still, we must cherish those far far away memories. Several players from that team went on to have success in the NFL

College Division? NAIA?

(04-24-2020 10:23 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 01:54 PM)wewererebels Wrote:  Well, the UT Arlington Rebels of 1967 were national champions. But this was before they called it FCS. Still, we must cherish those far far away memories. Several players from that team went on to have success in the NFL

College Division? NAIA?

Southland Conference. It was D2 at the time.

(04-25-2020 10:14 PM)CatMom Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 10:23 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 01:54 PM)wewererebels Wrote:  Well, the UT Arlington Rebels of 1967 were national champions. But this was before they called it FCS. Still, we must cherish those far far away memories. Several players from that team went on to have success in the NFL

College Division? NAIA?

Southland Conference. It was D2 at the time.

Not true. Southland Conference was and is Division One. There was no "D2." The NCAA in 1967 was "University Division" or "College Division." This more closely approximates the difference between FCS and FBS.

A somewhat lower classification (whatever D2 was called) pertained to Southwest Texas State, Sam Houston, Tarleton and the other Lone Star Conference members at the time. Note also, the Southland Conference was not FCS (or D-Iaa) until after the 1981 season.

Thus, the 1981 SLC Champion Mavericks were FBS conference champs. Unfortunately, the SLC had lost its ties to the Independence Bowl, so UTA stayed home.

If only...

(04-27-2020 09:35 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  If only...

Nice, except for the orange, which is just a grievance color forced on UTA by the "mother ship" commies in Austin.

https://images03.military.com/sites/defa...k=fa56F3WA

I guess Ive never really noticed that UTA, Utsa, and UTEP all have the same colors

(04-27-2020 10:30 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  I guess Ive never really noticed that UTA, Utsa, and UTEP all have the same colors

I didn't either until now. After researching, every UT system school has orange in their colors. UTSA, UTEP, UTA, and UT-Tyler have orange and blue. UT-Rio Grande and UT-Permian Basin have orange and black.

That's crazy. At least the control-freak University of Alabama let UAB have green and gold as their colors.

(04-27-2020 09:10 AM)wewererebels Wrote:  

(04-25-2020 10:14 PM)CatMom Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 10:23 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 01:54 PM)wewererebels Wrote:  Well, the UT Arlington Rebels of 1967 were national champions. But this was before they called it FCS. Still, we must cherish those far far away memories. Several players from that team went on to have success in the NFL

College Division? NAIA?

Southland Conference. It was D2 at the time.

Not true. Southland Conference was and is Division One. There was no "D2." The NCAA in 1967 was "University Division" or "College Division." This more closely approximates the difference between FCS and FBS.

A somewhat lower classification (whatever D2 was called) pertained to Southwest Texas State, Sam Houston, Tarleton and the other Lone Star Conference members at the time. Note also, the Southland Conference was not FCS (or D-Iaa) until after the 1981 season.

Thus, the 1981 SLC Champion Mavericks were FBS conference champs. Unfortunately, the SLC had lost its ties to the Independence Bowl, so UTA stayed home.

Well, I stand corrected. It made me check some history and found that the SLC was relegated to IAA prior to the 1982 season.

I had young kids back then. I wasn't paying attention to college football except during the holidays.

(04-18-2020 06:27 PM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  

(04-18-2020 11:24 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(04-18-2020 12:39 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(04-18-2020 12:35 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  I'm a Georgia State fan, so...well, cool thread.

You're not the only team that was never FCS. It's just a time passer. Go with it.

I think he seems they were so bad at first they couldn’t compete at the FCS level much less SBC.

Yeah, I'm definitely all about folks sharing in this thread. I just...have a hard time remembering much about our FCS years...or those first couple in the Belt...

Alcohol has that effect on us.

(04-28-2020 01:40 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(04-27-2020 09:10 AM)wewererebels Wrote:  

(04-25-2020 10:14 PM)CatMom Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 10:23 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 01:54 PM)wewererebels Wrote:  Well, the UT Arlington Rebels of 1967 were national champions. But this was before they called it FCS. Still, we must cherish those far far away memories. Several players from that team went on to have success in the NFL

College Division? NAIA?

Southland Conference. It was D2 at the time.

Not true. Southland Conference was and is Division One. There was no "D2." The NCAA in 1967 was "University Division" or "College Division." This more closely approximates the difference between FCS and FBS.

A somewhat lower classification (whatever D2 was called) pertained to Southwest Texas State, Sam Houston, Tarleton and the other Lone Star Conference members at the time. Note also, the Southland Conference was not FCS (or D-Iaa) until after the 1981 season.

Thus, the 1981 SLC Champion Mavericks were FBS conference champs. Unfortunately, the SLC had lost its ties to the Independence Bowl, so UTA stayed home.

Well, I stand corrected. It made me check some history and found that the SLC was relegated to IAA prior to the 1982 season.

I had young kids back then. I wasn't paying attention to college football except during the holidays.

We too. it's all pretty much a blur. All I recall about SWT is the great Jim Wacker. He was truly a class act. Well, also, I remember Dr. Zedler and how she helped my then 6yr old dyslexic son develop his potential. San Marcos....not a bad place at all.

(04-27-2020 10:30 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  I guess Ive never really noticed that UTA, Utsa, and UTEP all have the same colors

The orange is an outrage, really. The BoR must have gotten the idea from Cal, and it's a stupid idea. We were blue and white, with some red trim. About 10 years ago the mother shippers decided the red had to be replaced by orange.

Oddly, they did allow us to keep our particular shades of blue. We have Royal Blue, while the Miners and Road Runners have navy blue. UTD has green. Go figure. But they all have that stinkin' orange.

Before being moved, we were the biggest university in the A&M system. They never made us use their colors, nor have they forced maroon on any of the other TAMUs that I know of.

UT orange: It's like a dog marking its territory.

(04-27-2020 09:10 AM)wewererebels Wrote:  

(04-25-2020 10:14 PM)CatMom Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 10:23 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 01:54 PM)wewererebels Wrote:  Well, the UT Arlington Rebels of 1967 were national champions. But this was before they called it FCS. Still, we must cherish those far far away memories. Several players from that team went on to have success in the NFL

College Division? NAIA?

Southland Conference. It was D2 at the time.

Not true. Southland Conference was and is Division One. There was no "D2." The NCAA in 1967 was "University Division" or "College Division." This more closely approximates the difference between FCS and FBS.

A somewhat lower classification (whatever D2 was called) pertained to Southwest Texas State, Sam Houston, Tarleton and the other Lone Star Conference members at the time. Note also, the Southland Conference was not FCS (or D-Iaa) until after the 1981 season.

Thus, the 1981 SLC Champion Mavericks were FBS conference champs. Unfortunately, the SLC had lost its ties to the Independence Bowl, so UTA stayed home.

From the Southland Conference website in the "About" section.
Southland Conference - About

Quote:...The Southland’s football heritage has sustained itself through numerous membership and classification changes, from the NCAA College Division in 1964 (that became Division II in 1973), to fully-joining Division I in 1975. The Southland was an NCAA Division I-A league from 1978-81, before joining the ranks of then Division I-AA for football in 1982 (known as FCS since 2006), its home ever since.
During its tenure as a Division I and I-A conference, the Southland Conference initiated the startup of the Shreveport, La.-based Independence Bowl in 1976. The Southland representative served as the host team of the bowl until 1980, compiling a 2-3 record in those contests, and the Bowl remains in existence today...

It's confusing, but the SLC was College Division (which was renamed and split to become D2 and D3 in 1973) from 1964-1972. The conference was Division 2 from 1973-1974. The SLC was Division I (formerly named the University Division until 1973) from 1975 forward. It looks like the conference may have been a hybrid of some members competing at the University Division / D1 level while others competed at the College Division / D II prior to 1975. (see below)

It gets even more confusing. It looks like the conference was mixed in the years prior to the DI period. UTA led the conference moving up to the University Division level starting in 1971 based on the UTA football Wikipedia site and NCAA statistics. Based on NCAA Statistics, it looks like Lamar competed at the DI level starting in 1973 while the remainder of the conference moved up in 1975. The early years of the conference were so crazy that in the 1968-69 basketball season, Lamar was ranked #1 in the AP College Division poll for part of the year and also ranked as high as #18 in the UPI Major College poll in the same year.

All of this indirectly pertains to the Sun Belt because during the early years of the Southland Conference, in addition to UTA, current Sun Belt members Arkansas State and Louisiana were Southland Conference members as well as former Sun Belt members Louisiana Tech and Lamar.