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Frisco experience vs. Chattanooga
Hi JMU fans! Like many of you, I have been missing sports the past week and a half. To fill the void, I have watched some old videos on YouTube of past FCS/1-AA national championship games, including App's wins in Chattanooga in '05, '06, and '07 and JMU's appearances in both Chattanooga and Frisco since 2004.

I guess you all have had more experience in Frisco than in Chattanooga, but I'm wondering how you would compare the two venues and cities. Do you think the move to Frisco was a good one? Would it have been better for JMU to have the championship games in much closer Chattanooga?

Thanks for your thoughts. I look forward to the discussion.
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Chattanooga but only because of proximity to Virginia and easier/less expensive travel costs, otherwise, Frisco.

Ultimately, I would prefer the game to be in a warm destination city like Orlando.
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(03-20-2020 09:15 PM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Chattanooga but only because of proximity to Virginia and easier/less expensive travel costs, otherwise, Frisco.

Ultimately, I would prefer the game to be in a warm destination city like Orlando.

What was Frisco like?
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RE: Frisco experience vs. Chattanooga
Chattanooga, and it has nothing to do with proximity. Frisco is Short Pump VA, or some new Charlotte development.

Frisco is plastic, no personality, few locals....when you travel to Dallas/Frisco, nothing stands out.

Chattanooga has personality, there are locals, and they are happy to have you there. They welcome you....or so I remember from 15 years ago.

No contest for Chattanooga.
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(03-20-2020 09:36 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Chattanooga, and it has nothing to do with proximity. Frisco is Short Pump VA, or some new Charlotte development.

Frisco is plastic, no personality, few locals....when you travel to Dallas/Frisco, nothing stands out.

Chattanooga has personality, there are locals, and they are happy to have you there.
They welcome you....or so I remember from 15 years ago.

No contest for Chattanooga.

Pretty good summary.
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I remember Frisco being warm one day and super cold the next.
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RE: Frisco experience vs. Chattanooga
I was pretty young for Chattanooga plus had strep throat so it was a little harder to enjoy it as much as I otherwise would have but I'd say both have their pros and cons. Chattanooga was more driveable for us obviously, but flights to Dallas are generally really cheap. Neither is a location where the city excites me at all(other than Dallas having In-N-Out) personally but seems some people enjoy the stockyards and stuff like that, just not my cup of tea. Chattanooga I remember there being a big area with lots of different concessions and stuff, kind of like a huge tailgate party atmosphere and the bands going through and everything... One important note, the full MRD's unlike in Frisco. I don't remember if the team came through in Chattanooga, the arrival of the team was a really cool part in 2016 but weather shut that down in 2019. Overall the pregame was much cooler in Chattanooga. I'd say the whole trophy presentation and celebration was a much better presentation in Frisco. Being in football crazed Texas is definitely a little bit of a cool factor, we had lots of locals talk to us about the game and the teams and I don't know if that would happen for the FCS championship in a lot of places. I can't really totally compare that to Chattanooga though since my brother and I went on a JMU bus to Chattanooga but my mom and I traveled on our own to Texas.

Overall I'd probably say Chattanooga > Frisco but maybe the nostalgia is a factor there. We've talked a lot on here about how a lot of us would really like to see some rotation of multiple locations or at least a more exciting and/or consistently warm location like Vegas, Florida, SoCal, etc. especially since it seems so likely that JMU and NDSU will continue to make repeat trips as long as they're FCS.
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(03-20-2020 09:15 PM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Chattanooga but only because of proximity to Virginia and easier/less expensive travel costs, otherwise, Frisco.

Ultimately, I would prefer the game to be in a warm destination city like Orlando.

Orlando isn't a bad idea. It could work well in the MLS team's stadium, where the Cure Bowl moved this past bowl season. It would be an appropriate size for an FCS title game. Also, Orlando is one of the cheaper flights in the country from just about anywhere, much like Las Vegas.

https://www.orlandocitysc.com/stadium/generalinfo
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(03-20-2020 09:36 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Chattanooga, and it has nothing to do with proximity. Frisco is Short Pump VA, or some new Charlotte development.

Frisco is plastic, no personality, few locals....when you travel to Dallas/Frisco, nothing stands out.

Chattanooga has personality, there are locals, and they are happy to have you there. They welcome you....or so I remember from 15 years ago.

No contest for Chattanooga.

Well said. Chatty has character. Frisco is a booming Dallas bedroom community of now about a quarter-million people.

Don't get me wrong, I live in Texas and love it, and there are awesome towns across the state with great character. Frisco just ain't one of them. Frisco seems like Ashburn to me, a town that sprang up out of the dirt in a hurry, just a bedroom community.

So, if the question is Chatty or Frisco, I go with Chatty. 2004 is unforgettable.

Besides, "Natty in Chatty" has a far superior lyrical quality to "Natty in Frisco."
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While I prefer the Chatty experience, much had to do with playing the game under the lights rather than 11:00am. That's simply awful. I'm much more about the hours leading up to the event over the night before and the hours following. I only need one overnight stay, two is okay, but three is simply not necessary for me. I'm never going to get the wife to go, so I'm traveling with my buds. While they are great guys, two nights max is my limit.
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^^^^

Yes, playing under the lights creates a more exciting fan / game atmosphere. I miss that aspect about the game being played in Chatty.
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(03-22-2020 12:55 AM)Purple Wrote:  
(03-20-2020 09:36 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Chattanooga, and it has nothing to do with proximity. Frisco is Short Pump VA, or some new Charlotte development.

Frisco is plastic, no personality, few locals....when you travel to Dallas/Frisco, nothing stands out.

Chattanooga has personality, there are locals, and they are happy to have you there. They welcome you....or so I remember from 15 years ago.

No contest for Chattanooga.

Well said. Chatty has character. Frisco is a booming Dallas bedroom community of now about a quarter-million people.

Don't get me wrong, I live in Texas and love it, and there are awesome towns across the state with great character. Frisco just ain't one of them. Frisco seems like Ashburn to me, a town that sprang up out of the dirt in a hurry, just a bedroom community.

So, if the question is Chatty or Frisco, I go with Chatty. 2004 is unforgettable.

Besides, "Natty in Chatty" has a far superior lyrical quality than "Natty in Frisco."

As someone that has lived in Ashburn for half his life, I can concur.
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(03-22-2020 08:01 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  ^^^^

Yes, playing under the lights creates a more exciting fan / game atmosphere. I miss that aspect about the game being played in Chatty.

Frisco has nothing to do with the start time, it will be an early game no matter where it is being played as long as the game stays in Jan. TV does not want to compete with NFL playoffs. Move it back to Dec and it would probably be a night game again.
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(03-22-2020 09:49 PM)White Hall Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 08:01 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  ^^^^

Yes, playing under the lights creates a more exciting fan / game atmosphere. I miss that aspect about the game being played in Chatty.

Frisco has nothing to do with the start time, it will be an early game no matter where it is being played as long as the game stays in Jan. TV does not want to compete with NFL playoffs. Move it back to Dec and it would probably be a night game again.

What if the game was played the Friday night before the CFP final, instead of the Saturday before it?
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(03-23-2020 09:50 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 09:49 PM)White Hall Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 08:01 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  ^^^^

Yes, playing under the lights creates a more exciting fan / game atmosphere. I miss that aspect about the game being played in Chatty.

Frisco has nothing to do with the start time, it will be an early game no matter where it is being played as long as the game stays in Jan. TV does not want to compete with NFL playoffs. Move it back to Dec and it would probably be a night game again.

What if the game was played the Friday night before the CFP final, instead of the Saturday before it?

Perfect, but I don't see it being allowed. The CFP, NCAA, advertisers, and P5 powers that be want maximum dead time (time with no distractions) before the game to hype the CFP final.
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Chattanooga was way better and more importantly was an actual neutral site, unlike Frisco which in every way possible favors the Bison. On purpose, unabashedly.
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(03-23-2020 11:14 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  Chattanooga was way better and more importantly was an actual neutral site, unlike Frisco which in every way possible favors the Bison. On purpose, unabashedly.

To be fair, Fargo is 1072 miles from Frisco while Harrisonburg is 1195 miles. That's not that huge of a difference when you're driving over a thousand miles. Besides, both fanbases are probably flying anyway, and I imagine it's a lot cheaper to fly to Dallas from Richmon or DC or Norfolk than it is from North Dakota.

Also, Chattanooga would decidedly favor JMU as it is MUCH closer to JMU than it is to NDSU.
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(03-23-2020 11:38 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 11:14 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  Chattanooga was way better and more importantly was an actual neutral site, unlike Frisco which in every way possible favors the Bison. On purpose, unabashedly.

To be fair, Fargo is 1072 miles from Frisco while Harrisonburg is 1195 miles. That's not that huge of a difference when you're driving over a thousand miles. Besides, both fanbases are probably flying anyway, and I imagine it's a lot cheaper to fly to Dallas from Richmon or DC or Norfolk than it is from North Dakota.

Also, Chattanooga would decidedly favor JMU as it is MUCH closer to JMU than it is to NDSU.

It's not distance, rather, it is the fact that Frisco unabashedly caters to the Bison. I don't blame Frisco (hosting is about $$$, and NDSU brings the $$$), but it just makes for a crappy experience if you're not wearing green and yellow.

For example, the stadium this year had 2 people running security on our entrance. They were wanding each and every person. The line was easily 5000+ deep, and a ton of us missed this majority of the first quarter. NDSU's entrance had no such issues.

It's just things like that, repeated over and over. It doesn't feel neutral at all.
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(03-23-2020 11:51 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 11:38 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 11:14 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  Chattanooga was way better and more importantly was an actual neutral site, unlike Frisco which in every way possible favors the Bison. On purpose, unabashedly.

To be fair, Fargo is 1072 miles from Frisco while Harrisonburg is 1195 miles. That's not that huge of a difference when you're driving over a thousand miles. Besides, both fanbases are probably flying anyway, and I imagine it's a lot cheaper to fly to Dallas from Richmon or DC or Norfolk than it is from North Dakota.

Also, Chattanooga would decidedly favor JMU as it is MUCH closer to JMU than it is to NDSU.

It's not distance, rather, it is the fact that Frisco unabashedly caters to the Bison. I don't blame Frisco (hosting is about $$$, and NDSU brings the $$$), but it just makes for a crappy experience if you're not wearing green and yellow.

For example, the stadium this year had 2 people running security on our entrance. They were wanding each and every person. The line was easily 5000+ deep, and a ton of us missed this majority of the first quarter. NDSU's entrance had no such issues.

It's just things like that, repeated over and over. It doesn't feel neutral at all.

Yeesh. I had no idea. That's terrible.
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(03-23-2020 11:51 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 11:38 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 11:14 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  Chattanooga was way better and more importantly was an actual neutral site, unlike Frisco which in every way possible favors the Bison. On purpose, unabashedly.

To be fair, Fargo is 1072 miles from Frisco while Harrisonburg is 1195 miles. That's not that huge of a difference when you're driving over a thousand miles. Besides, both fanbases are probably flying anyway, and I imagine it's a lot cheaper to fly to Dallas from Richmon or DC or Norfolk than it is from North Dakota.

Also, Chattanooga would decidedly favor JMU as it is MUCH closer to JMU than it is to NDSU.

It's not distance, rather, it is the fact that Frisco unabashedly caters to the Bison. I don't blame Frisco (hosting is about $$$, and NDSU brings the $$$), but it just makes for a crappy experience if you're not wearing green and yellow.

For example, the stadium this year had 2 people running security on our entrance. They were wanding each and every person. The line was easily 5000+ deep, and a ton of us missed this majority of the first quarter. NDSU's entrance had no such issues.

It's just things like that, repeated over and over. It doesn't feel neutral at all.

Did you actually go look @ the NDSU side?

It was trash for us as well. I've just known better and started heading to the stadium 45 minute earlier. Two people wanding = 30+ minute wait just to get to the ticket counter.

It's ******* dumb and Frisco should do a better job.
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