I hope JMU goes on a 4 game run and wins the CAA. That would be fun. Rowe realizes this is his Alamo. Maybe he's been on YouTube learning some coaching and will surprise everyone with a Jerry Tarkanian style press and amoeba defense. And driving to the basket instead of standing around at the 3 point arc on offense.

(03-01-2020 07:37 PM)Bill Wrote:  They have a better chance of winning the Powerball lottery.

*Edit: I'm feeling optimistic about JMU's odds, I'm going to re-forecast.

Being born with 11 fingers or toes - 1 in 500

Struck by lightning - 1 in 576,000

Getting attacked by a shark - 1 in 3,748,067

Flipping a coin on heads 100 times in a row - 1 in 30,000,000

Winning the Powerball jackpot - 1 in 292,000,000

Killed on an amusement ride - 1 in 750,000,000

Getting hit by falling space junk - 1 in 100,000,000,000

Shuffling a random deck of cards into perfect order - 1 in 10^68 (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)

Monkey randomly typing Hamlet - 1 in 36^169,541 (36 followed by 169,541 zeroes)

JMU winning men's basketball CAAT - *same odds as a monkey typing Hamlet

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(03-02-2020 10:13 AM)JacksonHall Wrote:  I hope JMU goes on a 4 game run and wins the CAA. That would be fun. Rowe realizes this is his Alamo. Maybe he's been on YouTube learning some coaching and will surprise everyone with a Jerry Tarkanian style press and amoeba defense. And driving to the basket instead of standing around at the 3 point arc on offense.

We have lost a lot of games by 5 points or less. Who knows?

Can JMU win the CAAT? Sure! Will they? Nope, this team stopped believing.

VCU 2010-2011 season. Last four into the NCAAT and lost to Butler in the final four. BUT..... in February alone. They lost away at North Eastern and Drexel. They also lost three in a row AT HOME to ODU, Mason and JMU. They also lost the CAA championship (In Richmond) to ODU.

The chances of VCU going to the final four in 2011 is about the same as JMU winning the CAAT. I guess Miracles can happen.

Speaking of Tark reminded me again how fun JMU basketball used to be. I remember being there when Lefty got Tark to bring UNLV to the convo in 1991. The place was completely packed with a reported 7,800 people. Great game which we had a lead and a tough, close loss. I used to go home hoarse in those days.

(03-01-2020 10:35 PM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(03-01-2020 10:29 PM)jmudukes001 Wrote:  Ugh, sorry you brought up that ECU 1993 championship game. That was awful. Bad memories of that game. People were already looking ahead to the NCAAs before that game. Definitely one of the worst losses under Lefty. That and losing as the top seed to number 8 Navy in the 1991 first round. The Richmond Coliseum was a total jinx to us back then... until the Culuko shot!!

I have no doubt that Lefty’s teams in the early 90s would have made some noise in the NCAAs if we had been able to win more CAA tournaments. We were arguably the best team in the conference from 1989-1995 and had quality non-conference wins most of those years. Just could not win more of the big ones at the Coliseum to have a chance.

As painful as those losses were, would love to be back to that level to at least have a chance.

I don't know about the "making noise" thing. We couldn't even win an NIT game. Lefty just got really wound tight in the CAA tournament and I think the players felt it.

Well, in the one time we made it, we took 3rd seeded Florida to the buzzer, and if not for a bad break of two, should have won that game. Florida crushed low-seed Penn in the next round so we were maybe one basket away from the sweet 16. That team was definitely not Lefty’s best or most talented team, and I think one of the others would have won a game or more. Just could not get the CAA title unfortunately.

Actually, because of Lefty and his name, we got ESPN games and tough opponents in the first round of the NIT. No seeds back then so ESPN made some of the matchups for TV.

Lou Rowe played on the JMU team that lost to Florida in the tournament. It was played in Nassau Coliseum in NYC. Home of the Islanders at the time.

I was at the game. Clayton Ritter played great. We should have won as Florida was ripe for an upset. Other than Clayton, we played nervously and missed many close range shots. We allowed Florida to stay close in a low scoring first half. They sealed the win late when JMU dribbled the ball off the back of a Florida players leg. Thinking it may have been Fess Irvin who made that last turnover.

Good showing but another close but no cigar loss for our Dukes.

(03-03-2020 12:24 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  Lou Rowe played on the JMU team that lost to Florida in the tournament. It was played in Nassau Coliseum in NYC. Home of the Islanders at the time.

I was at the game. Clayton Ritter played great. We should have won as Florida was ripe for an upset. Other than Clayton, we played nervously and missed many close range shots. We allowed Florida to stay close in a low scoring first half. They sealed the win late when JMU dribbled the ball off the back of a Florida players leg. Thinking it may have been Fess Irvin who made that last turnover.

Good showing but another close but no cigar loss for our Dukes.

It was Dennis Leonard who dribbled the ball off his foot at the end (Fess was gone after 90-91). And HCLR was a non factor offensively against his old team. He scored 3 lousy points.

It was Denis Leonard or D Rock with the ball in his hands at the end of the game. That was an overachieving Florida team coached by Lon Kruger. Not many pros on that team - I think actually only one- Andrew Declerq. Had a solid guard Cross and an undersized big that went by a nickname of the meat hook.

Culuko hit the shot and for that he will always be a legend. Guy could hit Steph Curry distance 3s before they were popular to take but the reality is that he often was neutralized or disappeared in big games. Lot of his points were at the line at the end of big Jmu margins of victory. He didn’t play a role in that game vs Florida. To me McLinton was a guy who was more often up to the task against better competition. The shame was toward the end of McLintons time at JMU the Dukes hit the skids when Chatney Howard got injured and the Lefty era started to unwind. McLintons senior year was wasted on a bad JMU team.

(03-03-2020 12:42 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  It was Denis Leonard or D Rock with the ball in his hands at the end of the game. That was an overachieving Florida team coached by Lon Kruger. Not many pros on that team - I think actually only one- Andrew Declerq. Had a solid guard Cross and an undersized big that went by a nickname of the meat hook.

Culuko hit the shot and for that he will always be a legend. Guy could hit Steph Curry distance 3s before they were popular to take but the reality is that he often was neutralized or disappeared in big games. Lot of his points were at the line at the end of big Jmu margins of victory. He didn’t play a role in that game vs Florida. To me McLinton was a guy who was more often up to the task against better competition. The shame was toward the end of McLintons time at JMU the Dukes hit the skids when Chatney Howard got injured and the Lefty era started to unwind. McLintons senior year was wasted on a bad JMU team.

And Leonard became academically ineligible the year after that NCAA trip. Ritter was really dominant in that game to. He was a high flyer for a 6'7 guy. Some really big dunks. And Rowe had a terrible day in that game against his former team.

(03-03-2020 12:42 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  It was Denis Leonard or D Rock with the ball in his hands at the end of the game. That was an overachieving Florida team coached by Lon Kruger. Not many pros on that team - I think actually only one- Andrew Declerq. Had a solid guard Cross and an undersized big that went by a nickname of the meat hook.

Culuko hit the shot and for that he will always be a legend. Guy could hit Steph Curry distance 3s before they were popular to take but the reality is that he often was neutralized or disappeared in big games. Lot of his points were at the line at the end of big Jmu margins of victory. He didn’t play a role in that game vs Florida. To me McLinton was a guy who was more often up to the task against better competition. The shame was toward the end of McLintons time at JMU the Dukes hit the skids when Chatney Howard got injured and the Lefty era started to unwind. McLintons senior year was wasted on a bad JMU team.

I have said the same for years. It generally was not well received here. I still feel like many Culuko fans had blinders on in regards to his performance against better competition. He not only had off nights, he had nights with half his usual shot attempts. As you said, disappeared and a non factor. He couldn't free himself from talented quick guards. He did usually feast on weaker OOC and mid to lower CAA competition though.

Everybody remembers Kent's great shot against ODU (and I'll be forever grateful for that moment). But how many people remember he was only 1-6 from the field prior to that shot?

Culucko’s best shooting year may have been his sophomore year. He drew a lot of defensive attention the rest of his time at JMU. He struggled to create his own shot and his teammates weren’t great at helping him to get open. It felt like he peaked early and then plat-toed. He may have even regressed a little bit.

As a serious question, would you be more likely to win the CAA Tournament, have your Women win four NCAA Tournament games to reach the Final Four, or play Football at NDSU in four consecutive weeks and win all four (that isn't hypothetically possible, but pretend you could play there in four consecutive weeks)?

(03-05-2020 11:29 PM)EvanJ Wrote:  As a serious question, would you be more likely to win the CAA Tournament, have your Women win four NCAA Tournament games to reach the Final Four, or play Football at NDSU in four consecutive weeks and win all four (that isn't hypothetically possible, but pretend you could play there in four consecutive weeks)?

I think I'd rank the likelihood of those football, WBB, MBB. But I don't follow WBB so maybe people who do would disagree.

I’m a big supporter of JMU WBB & I agree. It’s insanely difficult to get past the Sweet 16 in WBB nowadays. It’s tough to win just one NCAAT game, but 4? I agree with your rankings.

(03-03-2020 12:24 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  Lou Rowe played on the JMU team that lost to Florida in the tournament. It was played in Nassau Coliseum in NYC. Home of the Islanders at the time.

I was at the game. Clayton Ritter played great. We should have won as Florida was ripe for an upset. Other than Clayton, we played nervously and missed many close range shots. We allowed Florida to stay close in a low scoring first half. They sealed the win late when JMU dribbled the ball off the back of a Florida players leg. Thinking it may have been Fess Irvin who made that last turnover.

Good showing but another close but no cigar loss for our Dukes.

I was at the game too, and it was Leonard. Ritter was one of the most improved players ever at JMU. Was fun to watch him. I remember watching the tape of that game and hearing Billy Packer yelling that Florida could not stop Ritter.

The Culuko shot eliminated a lot of the disappointment of tough terrible losses in the CAA tourney at the Coliseum. We were down 19 with 13 minutes left in that game too. ODU fans still hate hearing the name Culuko like Mike London still shakes his head when he hears the name Scotty McGee.

I remember the smack their fans were talking at halftime. They thought they had the game in hand. Their behavior made for a very sweet win.

(03-06-2020 07:42 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  I remember the smack their fans were talking at halftime. They thought they had the game in hand. Their behavior made for a very sweet win.

Still probably the most fun I have ever had at a sporting event. My buddy and I were among the fat old guys who rushed the court after the game. My buddy passed three years ago, and my first frosty beverage on Saturday will be lifted in his honor.

The Culuko shot made all those other tournament disappointments irrelevant.

The 600 lb. gorilla was off of Lefty's back.

I will be wearing purple on Saturday, but will switch back to green on Sunday. I will never get the bad taste of the '83 tournament out of my mouth.

(03-03-2020 10:11 AM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 12:42 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  It was Denis Leonard or D Rock with the ball in his hands at the end of the game. That was an overachieving Florida team coached by Lon Kruger. Not many pros on that team - I think actually only one- Andrew Declerq. Had a solid guard Cross and an undersized big that went by a nickname of the meat hook.

Culuko hit the shot and for that he will always be a legend. Guy could hit Steph Curry distance 3s before they were popular to take but the reality is that he often was neutralized or disappeared in big games. Lot of his points were at the line at the end of big Jmu margins of victory. He didn’t play a role in that game vs Florida. To me McLinton was a guy who was more often up to the task against better competition. The shame was toward the end of McLintons time at JMU the Dukes hit the skids when Chatney Howard got injured and the Lefty era started to unwind. McLintons senior year was wasted on a bad JMU team.

And Leonard became academically ineligible the year after that NCAA trip. Ritter was really dominant in that game to. He was a high flyer for a 6'7 guy. Some really big dunks. And Rowe had a terrible day in that game against his former team.

Also Kareem Robinson who was big for JMU in that CaaT had some off court/academic things and wound up finishing his career playing NAIA or D2. He along with Leonard were very talented and that following year had JMU been whole we could have been very good (we beat Purdue at home as it was).